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September 26, 2017, 05:20:15 AM
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Moneypot is denying to buy back the RBIES for a Floor Price of 1000 Satoshi!

I am asking trusted members to give Moneypot owners red trust until the buy the Rbies at promised Floor Price of 1000 Satoshi

I am also looking for trusted members-escrows who are willing to sell Moneypot RBIES I have and want to sell them


the Promise Dogedigital gave one year ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg16647825#msg16647825

Moneypot has recently backed Rubies at a 1000 Satoshi floor meaning that you can always exchange rubies for at least 1000 sats each.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg16648023#msg16648023
This means that Rubies should theoretically never be valued below 1000 satoshi, because Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg16648333#msg16648333
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:



please read point 1-4 carefully.

Dogedigital denied me now to buy RBIES back because I need to wait until they feel like to buy back the RBIES!
why do I need to wait?

he also wrote I can go elsewhere and sell my RBIES!
why should I go elsewhere? please read point 1-4 again

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169606.msg22225882#msg22225882

You can wait or you can choose not to go through us.  And yes, this is specifically applies to you.

Dogedigital and MP owners trying to fight me long ago and think I need to sit quiet and eat their shit. NO I will not!

I will give the mail conversation we had regarding RBIES to any trusted member

I will give PMs ( Dogedigital bombarded me with PMs ) to any trusted member to go through and get a view of his BS
even I told him he should not PM me cause all PMs are official because I will publish those if needed

a very interesting PM was where he was whining like a child ( very strange )

just sample mails I wrote to get the RBIES address

please send an addy to sell you RBIES

please send me the addy to send you some more RBIES

please send me an address to send some more RBIES

what is wrong with these kind of mails? for me it was a very polite way to ask! a few times they answered and send me the addy and bought back some RBIES. so why did they stop now? because of my skin color? why?

last time I got a very ugly answer from support and the fight started by mail

any trusted member or/and escrow is invited and welcome to help to get rid of some of my RBIES

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September 26, 2017, 10:10:53 PM
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I posted about a year ago asking about this promise but don't think I ever got a response.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

Can I has response now please?

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September 26, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
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I posted about a year ago asking about this promise but don't think I ever got a response.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

Can I has response now please?

The denying part in red is a complete lie.  Another attempt by JPR to twist things.

There are no guarantees, but yes, a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.   



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September 27, 2017, 04:12:16 AM
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I posted about a year ago asking about this promise but don't think I ever got a response.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

Can I has response now please?

The denying part in red is a complete lie.  Another attempt by JPR to twist things.

There are no guarantees, but yes, a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.   





here is what you wrote and stop always telling that I am lying! you are the Liar. if you would have been smart and straight forward you would keep your promises even you hate me. even in life someone needs to keep his promises.

I like your "There are no guarantees, but yes, a promise was made by Moneypot" that would mean that you give promises but no guarantees. such a formulation only cheaters do
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169606.msg22225882#msg22225882

You think you can abuse us in mail, threads and pm's, try to actively ruin us every chance you get, insult us at every opportunity (even created ones by yourself just for the purpose of doing so) and THEN demand we jump at your every request no matter how rude or inconsiderate you are?

You could have easily posted this in the Rubies thread, but again you think of ways to go out of your way to attack us. 

You can wait or you can choose not to go through us.  And yes, this is specifically applies to you.


why should I wait? because you hate me and want to punish me? why should I sell it somewhere else with even more loss? because you want satisfaction and punish me because I am telling the truth?

I can also publish my mail conversation with your support and till now I dont know who was the  ugly supporter who denied to send me the address to sell the RBIES after I asked. your supporter is hiding his nick and you are not giving me his nick? why?

"Please send an address to sell you some RBIES"

if you would sit back and think about it you will understand that this scam accusation was not needed at all becuaue I asked always very polite to send me an address to sell you some RBIES. but you decided not to send it and to fight me. I call this stupid in private and business wise

to be frank I have to say that I saw when I woke up that I received an RBIES address from Moneypot support. I really hope that this matter is cleared and I and not only me can sell the RBIES without any problems


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September 27, 2017, 04:23:45 AM
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Great arbitrage opportunity here!  Rbies is selling below 1000sat, so stock up and hold these mo fo's to their promise.  Oh wait, it was probably only a typical crypto world empty promise, only valid until the price actually dropped below 1000 sat. 

OP, hope you get to sell your rabies--I mean, rubies for the promised price.



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September 27, 2017, 04:27:39 AM
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Frankly i don't get the idea why this Moneypot project needs an ICO in fact they have ripped their previous investors, Even they have also not yet disclosed the various shareholders or Admin who have access to server seeds. This project is not worth of time.

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September 27, 2017, 06:46:48 AM
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Great arbitrage opportunity here!  Rbies is selling below 1000sat, so stock up and hold these mo fo's to their promise.  Oh wait, it was probably only a typical crypto world empty promise, only valid until the price actually dropped below 1000 sat. 

OP, hope you get to sell your rabies--I mean, rubies for the promised price.

thank you for the kind words. I really hope they will stick to their promises and learned the lesson to fulfill promises

as I mentioned above I received an addy this morning and sent them some RBIES. I am waiting to see if they send me the BTC. in case that yes then I will add "Solved" and see ho wit goes on

good luck to you


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Great arbitrage opportunity here!  Rbies is selling below 1000sat, so stock up and hold these mo fo's to their promise.  Oh wait, it was probably only a typical crypto world empty promise, only valid until the price actually dropped below 1000 sat. 

OP, hope you get to sell your rabies--I mean, rubies for the promised price.

Many have arbed over the last year successfully. 

Rubies isn't even our coin.  We just made plans to support it and have done so so far.   
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Frankly i don't get the idea why this Moneypot project needs an ICO in fact they have ripped their previous investors, Even they have also not yet disclosed the various shareholders or Admin who have access to server seeds. This project is not worth of time.

We have disclosed those that have access to the server seeds several times.
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I posted about a year ago asking about this promise but don't think I ever got a response.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

Can I has response now please?

The denying part in red is a complete lie.  Another attempt by JPR to twist things.

There are no guarantees, but yes, a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.  





here is what you wrote and stop always telling that I am lying! you are the Liar. if you would have been smart and straight forward you would keep your promises even you hate me. even in life someone needs to keep his promises.

I like your "There are no guarantees, but yes, a promise was made by Moneypot" that would mean that you give promises but no guarantees. such a formulation only cheaters do
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169606.msg22225882#msg22225882

You think you can abuse us in mail, threads and pm's, try to actively ruin us every chance you get, insult us at every opportunity (even created ones by yourself just for the purpose of doing so) and THEN demand we jump at your every request no matter how rude or inconsiderate you are?

You could have easily posted this in the Rubies thread, but again you think of ways to go out of your way to attack us.  

You can wait or you can choose not to go through us.  And yes, this is specifically applies to you.


why should I wait? because you hate me and want to punish me? why should I sell it somewhere else with even more loss? because you want satisfaction and punish me because I am telling the truth?

I can also publish my mail conversation with your support and till now I dont know who was the  ugly supporter who denied to send me the address to sell the RBIES after I asked. your supporter is hiding his nick and you are not giving me his nick? why?

"Please send an address to sell you some RBIES"

if you would sit back and think about it you will understand that this scam accusation was not needed at all becuaue I asked always very polite to send me an address to sell you some RBIES. but you decided not to send it and to fight me. I call this stupid in private and business wise

to be frank I have to say that I saw when I woke up that I received an RBIES address from Moneypot support. I really hope that this matter is cleared and I and not only me can sell the RBIES without any problems



Because this is strictly a game for you.  

You did this in the past where you messaged Friday at close and kept screaming in the public R2B2 thread.

Then you screamed in public again numerous times a time after that.  We told you that we had e-mailed you a reply and you called us liars and posts more messages. We then provided proof that we indeed send the e-mail and that it was you that was lying, and then you blamed it on a miraculous e-mail host crashing.
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September 27, 2017, 03:43:10 PM
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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?

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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?


We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.
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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?


We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.

show me where you said "we would get to it" and even then it would be not clear enough when you will get to it LOL

just go on provoking me and try to steal my RBIES/BTC

the FUDDER is YOU easy as that

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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?


We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.

show me where you said "we would get to it" and even then it would be not clear enough when you will get to it LOL

just go on provoking me and try to steal my RBIES/BTC

the FUDDER is YOU easy as that

This is so ridiculous and why we asked you to wait.  Because we knew the instant you started the transaction, you would call us a thief even though you've never had one single problem exchanging before.

You demand it instantly and if not, you go try to smear our name.  You've always received it.  Everyone else has always received it. 

You are making up complete lies.  Noone is trying to steal your Rubies.  Stop it.
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September 27, 2017, 05:54:31 PM
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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?


We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.

show me where you said "we would get to it" and even then it would be not clear enough when you will get to it LOL

just go on provoking me and try to steal my RBIES/BTC

the FUDDER is YOU easy as that

This is so ridiculous and why we asked you to wait.  Because we knew the instant you started the transaction, you would call us a thief even though you've never had one single problem exchanging before.

You demand it instantly and if not, you go try to smear our name.  You've always received it.  Everyone else has always received it. 

You are making up complete lies.  Noone is trying to steal your Rubies.  Stop it.

you are ridiculous because I asked you to show me where you told me to wait today and you didnt show me because you cant because you didnt tell me. btw why to wait? you could send it already 10 times while you are running around and posting BS. you are a crying shame for the gambling and casino industry

LIAR and THIEF

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September 27, 2017, 06:39:01 PM
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about 12 hours ago I have sent some RBIES to the address given by MP support but I did not receive yet my BTC!!!!!!!

instead of running from thread to thread wouldnt it be much nicer to send me my BTC?


We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.

show me where you said "we would get to it" and even then it would be not clear enough when you will get to it LOL

just go on provoking me and try to steal my RBIES/BTC

the FUDDER is YOU easy as that

This is so ridiculous and why we asked you to wait.  Because we knew the instant you started the transaction, you would call us a thief even though you've never had one single problem exchanging before.

You demand it instantly and if not, you go try to smear our name.  You've always received it.  Everyone else has always received it. 

You are making up complete lies.  Noone is trying to steal your Rubies.  Stop it.

you are ridiculous because I asked you to show me where you told me to wait today and you didnt show me because you cant because you didnt tell me. btw why to wait? you could send it already 10 times while you are running around and posting BS. you are a crying shame for the gambling and casino industry

LIAR and THIEF

You have your completed transaction.  I am finally taking a stand because noone else will and you have done a great amount of damage both mentally and financially.   

You have been given reasons and explanations for everything, but you choose not to ever listen.
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September 27, 2017, 06:40:28 PM
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Do you deny getting paid?  Are you still saying that we have stolen anything from you to deserve to be called a thief?

Or would you like to continue adding on to your lies here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779
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September 27, 2017, 07:11:57 PM
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Do you deny getting paid?  Are you still saying that we have stolen anything from you to deserve to be called a thief?

Or would you like to continue adding on to your lies here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779


why should I deny if you paid me? I see 3 confirmations right now so you didnt pay that long ago. I have no problem if you keep your promise

I always confirmed that I received the BTC by mail. same I did now. copy of my mail:

confirming that I received the BTC ( 3 conf till now)

please send me a new address to send you some RBIES

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lets see if we can do this like gentlemen


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September 27, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
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onfirming that I received the BTC ( 3 conf till now)

please send me a new address to send you some RBIES

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He JPR.. how much are we talking about?
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confirming that I received yesterday after a long and time wasting fight with Dogedigital the BTC for the RBIES I have sent

I have sent again a polite mail to moneypot support 12 hours ago and a second one to send me a new address for another RBIES deal. no new address received yet

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September 28, 2017, 04:44:18 PM
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Just for info

I received an email from Moneypot support with the question how many RBIES I want to sell. I answered how many and waiting now for the address to send my RBIES.

in case all goes well I will declare this scam thread to "Solved" for now and delete the red trust regarding RBIES. I am used to keep my word and love fair play

lets wait and see

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September 28, 2017, 05:40:26 PM
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Just for info

I received an email from Moneypot support with the question how many RBIES I want to sell. I answered how many and waiting now for the address to send my RBIES.

in case all goes well I will declare this scam thread to "Solved" for now and delete the red trust regarding RBIES. I am used to keep my word and love fair play

lets wait and see
Nice to hear, that you are getting to grips with them.
The question remains.. How much RBIES did you claim and will you claim?.. If you do not want to open this info.. I understand.. yours maiden
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September 28, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
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Just for info

I received an email from Moneypot support with the question how many RBIES I want to sell. I answered how many and waiting now for the address to send my RBIES.

in case all goes well I will declare this scam thread to "Solved" for now and delete the red trust regarding RBIES. I am used to keep my word and love fair play

lets wait and see
Nice to hear, that you are getting to grips with them.
The question remains.. How much RBIES did you claim and will you claim?.. If you do not want to open this info.. I understand.. yours maiden

to early to say as I didnt get the addy yet

sure thing that I will not publish the RBIES amounts. I am  sure you understand this

thx

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follow up

I received after 24 hours the address where to send the RBIES and this mail also said that they will need up to 24 hours from the moment they receive the RBIES to send me the BTC

very disappointing for me because 24 hours to send me the address and up to another 24 hours to send me the BTC is unacceptable. hehe and no weekend!  this is clearly intended because I can prove with the deals before how quick it was done.

no problem for me if they want to go on fighting

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Why do you act like a 5 year old, do you think that moneypot just waits for your emails all day and they don't have other clients to deal with, grow up and stop acting like a child. support response to any email is between 24-48 hours for most sites and that is reasonable for a huge site like that, If I was part of that team I would make sure all of the funds you have and stop any future business with someone as stupid as you are.
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Why do you act like a 5 year old, do you think that moneypot just waits for your emails all day and they don't have other clients to deal with, grow up and stop acting like a child. support response to any email is between 24-48 hours for most sites and that is reasonable for a huge site like that, If I was part of that team I would make sure all of the funds you have and stop any future business with someone as stupid as you are.

24-48 support for a 24/7 casino business HAHAHA thx for the laugh

any casino who will answer in 24-48 hours to a player will close very soon. if oyu want to keep customers you need to give best support and if you dont have enough people working in your support department you need to hire some. players want to have quick help and answers to go on playing. check the thread of BetterBets the flagship app of MP. they had a very good support but right now the support died and so the app.

QUICK SUPPORT for a 24/7 online CASINO is like Oxygen without a quick and good support the casino will die

if you are smart you will learn the lesson. but your posting started already toxic and brown nosed

good luck with your STUPID (just taking your word if you dont mind ) opinion

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September 29, 2017, 05:59:09 PM
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confirming that I received 0.3 BTC right now after exactly 24 hours. very good timing. all in all 48 hours from the moment asking for the address asking for the address.

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even I am not satisfied with the very long timing till I received my BTC I will keep my word and declare the scam accusation for now "Solved"

lets see ho wit will go on


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confirming that I received 0.3 BTC right now after exactly 24 hours. very good timing. all in all 48 hours from the moment asking for the address asking for the address.

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even I am not satisfied with the very long timing till I received my BTC I will keep my word and declare the scam accusation for now "Solved"

lets see ho wit will go on


You have made a valid point by making them keep to their word and a lesson to the MoneyPot admin or DogeDigital not to make promises they are not sure what the future is going to look like. If they had known, they would have put a disclaimer that they would only be able to cover only up to a certain benchmark and that would have saved a lot of all these troubles.

Truth be told the reason why they are holding their own end is because of the ongoing ICO which they dont want to taint because not been able to keep to their word and of they cant do that for what happen in the past, how can I trust them for the one they are making now?.

However, I think you should cut them some slack on how you are going about this whole thing because its starting to look at an intentional attitude which might be regarded as FUD and the moment that happens, you lose the moral ground for what you are asking. My humble opinion on what is going on.

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September 30, 2017, 05:10:48 AM
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another follow up

instead a RBIES address I received an email from Moneypot support with an impertinent request. I promised to declare this scam accusation thread as solved for now and thats what I did. I also removed red trust connected to the RBIES scam accusation

in case that Moneypot will go on with their dirty game I will reopen this scam accusation and give again the red trust. I keep my word

I am asking Moneypot again to start keeping their promises without any delays, dirty games and attacks. just keep your promises.

you can read back if I attacked someone here without being attacked before. I will always mirror them. for example did I ever say to RHavar Moron? or that anyone is spreading FUD?


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September 30, 2017, 09:32:50 AM
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confirming that I received 0.3 BTC right now after exactly 24 hours. very good timing. all in all 48 hours from the moment asking for the address asking for the address.

edit
even I am not satisfied with the very long timing till I received my BTC I will keep my word and declare the scam accusation for now "Solved"

lets see ho wit will go on


You have made a valid point by making them keep to their word and a lesson to the MoneyPot admin or DogeDigital not to make promises they are not sure what the future is going to look like. If they had known, they would have put a disclaimer that they would only be able to cover only up to a certain benchmark and that would have saved a lot of all these troubles.

Truth be told the reason why they are holding their own end is because of the ongoing ICO which they dont want to taint because not been able to keep to their word and of they cant do that for what happen in the past, how can I trust them for the one they are making now?.

However, I think you should cut them some slack on how you are going about this whole thing because its starting to look at an intentional attitude which might be regarded as FUD and the moment that happens, you lose the moral ground for what you are asking. My humble opinion on what is going on.

first of all thx for the straight forward posting.

Moneypot mad many promises and did not keep them even till today. Dogedigital will not like it but if he would be smart he woul dadmit it and start from scratch with keeping the promises and think before he promises something. I remember well when almost 1 year ago when he promised to buy back RBIES for the floor price of 1000 Satoshi. I asked very confused what does "always" mean? Dogedigital answered very sarcastic and very arrogant that it means

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

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definition -- always:

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1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:


also @Dooglus asked how can he give such a promise? and he didnt answer him

Dogedigital needs to learn to keep promises and need to learn to think before he gives promises. as he is according to himself an experienced businessman I agree to remember him and let him keep his promises. IMO nothing wrong with that

regarding the ICO I have to say that I did not know that they will do an ICO but they knew it and if they knew they are going out with a big ICO they should build trust first by keeping old promises and build up from there.

Dogedigital is trying to let it look like intentional and against the ICO. Wrong! sorry to say that because I really appreciate your input. to be frank this ICO had no chance as it was very bad prepared. 2 years with empty promises and 2 years needed for V2 and all promises like RBIES and other alt coins to implement and then rushing to implement the V2 because of the hasty decision to do an ICO. just take a look how many apps changed to V2 and how many complaints are there that there are many bugs. 6 apps changed to V2 and before there were 1000 + apps. the normal way would have been to switch to V2 long ago to help all app owners to switch to V2 and then sit back and take a look if all works fine and only then to go out for the ICO. sadly they didnt ask me before cause I would have told them how to do it.

ask yourself why famous apps like Bubblesbit - Vegascasinobits - BetterBets - Dragon casino - Coinmillions etc did not yet switch to V2?

there is no FUD in my statements but Dogedigital is telling his followers JPR is telling FUD and trying to cover his mistakes. I am not his floor mat where he can clean his dirty feet

did you see that RHavar, Dooglus, Stunna,Bitsler or some other serious casino owners locked so many threads like Moneypot owners did? they didnt lock even one thread cause they knew how to handle support issues

why did MP close the Slack channel that works fine for everyone but not for MP? did RHavar pre MP owner close the Slack channel? No
all this is not serious business behavior. why does an app owner go to the forum and ask important stuff about V2 codes or API? or head dev is posting in forum that he will help app owners to switch to V2? please check here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2215165.0
did he answer to help. ok only 2 users asked but answer cant hurt. I hope you get to understand my point

a business like MP needs a slack channel to have contact to the app owners

they should just keep their promises and not argue about it. MP has a dictatorship attitude and are very fast to attack me and I am against dictatorship and I am very fast to defend myself

believe me I could go on and on and there is no FUD or lies to find

read back all the forum and check if I attacked someone without he attacked me or did mistreat Jackpotracer casino

as you see I declared for now this Scam accusation for "Solved" I have no reason to attack MP as long they keeping their promises
Jackpotracer Team was always a fan of MP business idea and it did not change and we always wanted it to succeed. we were top 3 app for a long time there. we love BTC Provably Fair and Fair Play


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October 04, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
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I had to REOPEN the Scam accusation

I have sent 48 hours ago 20k RBIES to MP and they promised to send me the BTC within 24 hours

they did not send the BTC till now and they dont answer my mails! that is a real Shame

20000.00000000 RBIES
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again resolved! I hope it will stay resolved

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the behavior of MP is getting very weird now. please let me explain in short and I can prove it to any trusted member anytime

I have send an email to MP support as always and asked for a RBIES address. I received the addy and send 20k RBIES. the answer was that  it will take them up to 24 hours to send me the BTC

I have send another email and asked if I shall send another 10k RBIES to the same address or they will send me a new address.
No answer! I have send another mail asking if I shall send the 10k RBIES to same address

48 hours gone and no BTC and no answer! I have send another mail:
please answer if you gonna pay the BTC for my 20k RBIES?

also where to send the 10k I wanna sell? to a new address or the same


No answer and no BTC send to me

I reopened the Scam accusation with the explanation why I opened it

shortly after I received an email from MP support
This has now been sent.

Our apologies on the delay. We are running behind assisting with the refunding of the MPX ico.


I checked if it was send and saw that they have send me the 0.2 twice and mailed them immediately that it looks like an error and they send 0.4

I received an email from MP support telling me
Our support team has accidentally sent the transaction twice.

Please kindly send the .2btc (minus fees) back to ............................


as I wanted anyway to sell them some more RBIES my answer was
rechecked it and that is correct. it was send twice

I hope it is fine for you that I send you 20k RBIES. please send me a RBIES address so I can send it


MP support answer
We have a system that all transactions have to go through.

This was an error on my part

We can re-initialize a new transaction for the rubies afterwards.


I thought why shall I send the 0.2 BTC back and then they will do the RBIES deal afterwards and send me the same 0.2 again huh
very strange for me.

my answer was
sorry that does not make sense

please send me a RBIES address


the answer from MP support was
I am kindly asking you to return the errored payment.

I was not authorized to send it. It was a mistake.

Once you send back, we can set up a new transaction again to be processed


I then asked again more than once by mail for a RBIES address but did not get any answer from MP support till now

I want to send the 20k RBIES instead of the 0.2 BTC and asked for another address to send more RBIES

as a reminder the answer and promise from Dogedigital
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

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2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:


I would have send the 0.2 BTC back if I would not own RBIES anymore but I want to sell more RBIES and MP didnt want to buy from me and later just playing around and trying to play with me by paying me with delays as they decide

I am waiting for the RBIES address to send them the 20k RBIES and waiting for a new address to send some more

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after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
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 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.


my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR


and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back

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after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
JPR


 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.


my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR


and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back


Guy, you must have really had them to have made them committed to this extent. That being said, in my opinion, I think they have a point to have insisted that you send the coins first to them before further transacting with you. Why? Because looking at the precedence of the transaction you have had with them, its you sending first before they send you back your equivalent btc but in this case you are doing a form of reversal.

Its obvious they are trying hard to honor the word but I you do what they are asking for then you can have more ground to accuse and even get them tagged as well.

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after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
JPR


 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.


my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR


and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back


Guy, you must have really had them to have made them committed to this extent. That being said, in my opinion, I think they have a point to have insisted that you send the coins first to them before further transacting with you. Why? Because looking at the precedence of the transaction you have had with them, its you sending first before they send you back your equivalent btc but in this case you are doing a form of reversal.

Its obvious they are trying hard to honor the word but I you do what they are asking for then you can have more ground to accuse and even get them tagged as well.

respecting your opinion but I dont TRUST them and no one should TRUST them after not staying to their own promise. please read the promise again!

they did not want to buy RBIES back thats how the trouble and the scam accusation started!

without Dooglus's (a trusted member and sadly the only trusted member till now) comment (just read back) they still would try not to buy back the RBIES

beside all this it is much easier to get the RBIES send from me and go on buying RBIES from me!!!

they try with all tricks to avoid to buy the RBIES back from me. it is just a dirty game they play!!! easy as that

I will never send the 0.2 back in BTC just in RBIES as they promised to buy those FOREVER

they did all promises! they need to blame themselves for such stupid promises! I have RBIES and they promised to buy it and now they are regretting the promise!

I would like to see the trusted members who are very quick giving red trust to cheaters but here they did not react yet. why? I dont know but that they are cheating is very obvious if you like it or not

MP owners are very stupid to think that they can get away with this kind of cheat!

I want to send them RBIES they promised to buy FOREVER and they are not accepting it! RBIES looks like shit coin then becuase they want the BTC back and not the RBIES. who can guarantee that I get the BTC back for my RBIES? YOU?


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yeah fuck you cheater mp dick cheese lick scum.
 If you ever fucking send me bitcoin for no reason I'll destroy you fucking cheat fuck small dick no ball clown


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Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

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Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

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Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

yes you didnt get this!! I assume that you want to show your sig or you are somehow related to MP owners

sorry to say that this was a stupid posting. next time please read the first posting

Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

@Admiral I dont know you and you have no reason to attack me that I am scum!
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why would I go to any thread where you are posting and attacking you with such words? I never did and I never will but as you are attacking me I will defend myself

but if you want to help MP owners I can tell you how

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October 06, 2017, 05:15:41 PM
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Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

Fuck you.  Your opinion doesn't matter.  Show your signature off somewhere else.

 
Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

Fuck you too.  Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants.  He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit.  Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.
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I know you don't care for my opinion but too bad. Looks to me like you're stealing .2 here. I don't know what's going on with moneypot lately as my site isn't even up anymore, but from what I read they sent you extra $$$ by mistake and asked you to return it. You have no right to keep that money. I'm sure it's most likely for book keeping purposes and you can initiate another trade after returning what they asked.

I'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.

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October 06, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
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Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

yes you didnt get this!! I assume that you want to show your sig or you are somehow related to MP owners

sorry to say that this was a stupid posting. next time please read the first posting
You are basically saying to all people who disagree with you that they are spamming or they are somehow related to MP and you are doing it for very long time.
Do you know why not a single DT member doesn't bother to read your scam accusation and respond to it? Because you are fucking moron. Read your posts and polls - they are all related to MP and you are attacking them in every single poll and post!

You think you are superior well guess what - you are not!

Now lets see, my signature spam - do you think people are horses and they have to put blinkers when they talk with you and they have to agree on everything you say?
Guess what - they don't have to agree with you!
Also use google and type "horse blinkers" and read what is their purpose!

And finally read forum rules - trolling is not allowed, i am not sure who is allowing you to troll this forum for so long time.

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October 08, 2017, 01:35:39 PM
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I know you don't care for my opinion but too bad. Looks to me like you're stealing .2 here. I don't know what's going on with moneypot lately as my site isn't even up anymore, but from what I read they sent you extra $$$ by mistake and asked you to return it. You have no right to keep that money. I'm sure it's most likely for book keeping purposes and you can initiate another trade after returning what they asked.

I'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.
you are trying to be objective! thx for the laugh

no faecal language this time? like Asshole, kiss my ass, etc! I am not sure if your account was not hacked

lets see if you are objective? just answer or explain what the following means

 Dogedigital promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:


when I opened the scam accusation MP didnt want to buy my RBIES. why didnt you chime in as the objective guy you are telling us that you are? why didnt you write "hey MP you promised to buy RBIES forever so buy it!"

I dont trust MP owners because they promised to buy RBIES (and then they denied to buy from me)


1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:


and not to forget this arrogant start of the answer

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb


I hope you understand the definition of "always" now because Dogedigital explained it in depth and very clear even for people like me

I asked many times to send me a RBIES address to send them the 20k RBIES equivalent to 0.2 BTC and asked for another address to send some more RBIES. sadly they didnt send me the 2 addys but it shows very vlear that they dont want to stand to their promise to buy the RBIES as promised

@yahoo are you a trusted member? if yes ..........how about that you will be the middleman (because you tryst MP owners and always defending them) and I send you the 0.2 BTC but you need to guarantee that I can sell my RBIES? as soon MP owners dont want to buy my RBIES for the floor of 1000 satoshi each RBIES you will need to buy my RBIES and sell it to MP. I am sure you sold already your RBIES you owned ( I know you owned a few when MP announced the implementation of RBIES long ago and then they didnt keep the promise (as always) and you implemented it to Bubbles on your own without MP)







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October 08, 2017, 08:49:15 PM
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RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.

Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.

Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.

MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?

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October 09, 2017, 05:56:09 AM
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RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.

Moneypot promised to buy at the 1000 floor price but they try to avoid to buy and right now they dont buy ( at least from me )

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Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.

it does represent a sure profit and everyone should do this arbitrage IMO because Dogedigital opened the door for this arbitrage but as I mentioned above Moenypot tries with all might to avoid to keep the promise

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Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.

correct but risky if Moneypot will not buy it at the promised floor price

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MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?

this is what I thought that they will do when Dogedigital made this promise! I remember very well when you asked your very logic question because you were surprised about his offer and promise to buy RBIES "always" at the 1000 satoshi floor price and Dogedigital didnt answer you.
and when I asked very confused and surprised about his promise to buy "always" and what "always" means? Dogedigital answered in a very arrogant way (seen in postings above)

to be frank I was sure Moneypot will sit with a 1000 satoshi buy wall on the exchanges and implement RBIES into MP apps. as we see and know now they didnt put the buy wall and they didnt implement the RBIES but they are whining and dont want to keep their promise to buy the RBIES

question is why did they give such a promise and why didnt they do the buy wall as you mentioned correctly? they should have known that this could open an arbitrage possibility for everyone and why shouldnt the users not doing this arbitrage?

we (Jackpotracer) bought many RBIES long ago when MP promised to implement RBIES to MP apps "Soon" for a very high price. we used it for promos and were waiting to put it into the bank roll. I know many users  and app owners did the same. BTCjoe, gamblingbad, yahoo, professor just to mention some well known. we all were very disappointed

for me it does not matter if MP is opening a buy wall for 1000 satoshi or they buy the RBIES direct as long as MP is keeping their promise to buy the RBIES "always"










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October 11, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
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in any case MP is doing all they can not to buy my RBIES

in case MP buys from other users (please let me know if there are users out there who sold RBIES to MP in the last 10 days) and not from me it is clearly a SCAM and personal against me!

in case MP buys not from other users and not from me it is clearly also a SCAM

in both cases MP owners should get Red Trust from Trusted users

but in case Trusted users think that I stole from MP the 0.2 BTC then they should give me Red Trust


just for info then that I am mailing each day a few times and asking for the RBIES address to send them the 20K RBIES equivalent to the 0.2 BTC and to send me another addy to send another 10k RBIES but till now no addy received!

I am also willing as I proposed to user @yahoo (he sadly disappeared) to send the 0.2 BTC to a Trusted user and another 20k RBIES so he will need to send me back the 0.2 BTC for the 20k RBIES (waste of fees). additionally I want to get another RBIES address to send some more RBIES

right now MP owners are scamming me as a RBIES owner

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Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

Fuck you.  Your opinion doesn't matter.  Show your signature off somewhere else.

 
Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

Fuck you too.  Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants.  He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit.  Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.
If they made the promise to buy rbies at 1000sat and the market price is
below that, anyone has the right to use that as an arbitrage opportunity. They're
the ones who made the guarantee.   And, I might add, it's ONLY in cases like
that that someone would take them up on it!  What do you expect?

Edited to add: Yeah, I get it, Jackpotracer. I'm with you on this issue.



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October 11, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
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Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

Fuck you.  Your opinion doesn't matter.  Show your signature off somewhere else.

 
Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

Fuck you too.  Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants.  He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit.  Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.
If they made the promise to buy rbies at 1000sat and the market price is
below that, anyone has the right to use that as an arbitrage opportunity. They're
the ones who made the guarantee.   And, I might add, it's ONLY in cases like
that that someone would take them up on it!  What do you expect?

hi and thx for your input

btw @Jprfan is an idiot and tries to derail so please ignore him.

but I agree with you that righ tnow it is a very nice arbitrage everyone can jump on and should IMO jump on.

IMO it was their decision and promise and they for sure had a very very good reason to do so and maybe now the situation changed and they regret it. but as Dogedigital answered in this very arrogant way he was sure he did the right thing. and yes I love his answer

 Dogedigital promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:

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October 13, 2017, 05:52:13 AM
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and again many mails of mine are unanswered

my mails in general are asking for the RBIES address to send 20k RBIES and another addy for another 10k RBIES

I didnt get the addys!!!

now I saw the red trust that Dogedigital gave me not long ago

Complete liar. See reference for his lies and why his negative feedback is not true. He doesn't even bother trying to explain his reasoning.

I am a LIAR? @Dogedigital you are the LIAR and CHEATER!!! did I promise you something? or did you promise Investors to compensate them?

and how about the RBIES promise?
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

read your promise again and again and then tell me who is the LIAR?

shame on you and your partners who let you go on with lying and cheating!

very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises

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very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises

It looks like it's not just you any more - now they seem to be failing to honor their promise for everyone:



Any idea what "pending orders" means? I'm guessing there are lots of people staking RBIES based on the promised floor price. Does this mean that DogeDigital is going back on his word and all those people get to lose their money?

Edit: I recently attempted to clarify the position and was told again that Moneypot had promised to always buys Rubies at the 1000 satoshi base price:

a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.  

And now less than 3 weeks later, after repeating their promise, they're breaking it?

Does anyone have a list of the accounts which represent "Moneypot"? How was the promise made? Did it come from Moneypot or Dogedigital only?

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very disappointed with trusted members who let MP get away with this obvious cheat! MP owners should get covered with red trust till they keep their promises

It looks like it's not just you any more - now they seem to be failing to honor their promise for everyone:



Any idea what "pending orders" means? I'm guessing there are lots of people staking RBIES based on the promised floor price. Does this mean that DogeDigital is going back on his word and all those people get to lose their money?

Edit: I recently attempted to clarify the position and was told again that Moneypot had promised to always buys Rubies at the 1000 satoshi base price:

a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.  

And now less than 3 weeks later, after repeating their promise, they're breaking it?

Does anyone have a list of the accounts which represent "Moneypot"? How was the promise made? Did it come from Moneypot or Dogedigital only?

It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.
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October 14, 2017, 12:16:53 AM
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The decision was made so that the system stays in place and benefits the whole system.  So it can work like it was intended to.

The ones that bought and actually believe in Rubies to work.

Not the ones that aim to 'stick it' to me and abuse and exploit it. It's definitely my fault that I promised to uphold it.
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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part. 

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.

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October 14, 2017, 04:20:43 AM
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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part. 

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.  

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

Which part of my quote involves a lie?  You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work.  At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where.   And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads.  I try to stay away from you as much as possible.  You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.
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October 14, 2017, 06:00:40 AM
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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.  

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

Which part of my quote involves a lie?  You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work.  At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where.   And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads.  I try to stay away from you as much as possible.  You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.

thats very interesting! your PMs are sounding totally different to your posting and red trust you gave me! you are attacking me here and same time begging me to stop. are you for real?

did I promise you any compensation? did I promise to
" always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

NO! you did! did you forget this?

you are talking about "toxic"? you try to use RHavars word with the wrong person. you are the TOXIC Liar and CHEATER

sadly you are proving it with every posting and PM of yours!

as dooglus pointed it out you even about 3 weeks ago restated your RBIES promise! and now? the promise is cancelled LOL and I am toxic? because I am telling the truth and facts? dooglus is more polite than me because you did not attack him like me. dooglus was smarter than me not to believe you when you promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

soon you will say it was unintentionally promised or a slip of tongue like your false claim you are the Moneypot Founder

or your promise to compensate Investors! si this promise still on? LOL or is it already off? I mean in your head because you will declare it off whenever it pleases you! people who give promises like you just to call them off whenever they like are in my eyes the worst CHEATERS ever

RHavar asked you how can you give such promises like the promise for Investors and the 135 BTC promise for dec to pay back an Investor and I can answer RHavar now that you can give even more promises cause they were never intended to be kept!!!
you proved it today!

IMO it is time for trusted members to cover you with red trust! and if they think you are the guy with the correct behavior as you are pretending to be so they should give me red trust because I am blaming you for things you didnt do




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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

----

Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.  

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

Which part of my quote involves a lie?  You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work.  At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where.   And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads.  I try to stay away from you as much as possible.  You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.

thats very interesting! your PMs are sounding totally different to your posting and red trust you gave me! you are attacking me here and same time begging me to stop. are you for real?

did I promise you any compensation? did I promise to
" always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

NO! you did! did you forget this?

you are talking about "toxic"? you try to use RHavars word with the wrong person. you are the TOXIC Liar and CHEATER

sadly you are proving it with every posting and PM of yours!

as dooglus pointed it out you even about 3 weeks ago restated your RBIES promise! and now? the promise is cancelled LOL and I am toxic? because I am telling the truth and facts? dooglus is more polite than me because you did not attack him like me. dooglus was smarter than me not to believe you when you promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

soon you will say it was unintentionally promised or a slip of tongue like your false claim you are the Moneypot Founder

or your promise to compensate Investors! si this promise still on? LOL or is it already off? I mean in your head because you will declare it off whenever it pleases you! people who give promises like you just to call them off whenever they like are in my eyes the worst CHEATERS ever

RHavar asked you how can you give such promises like the promise for Investors and the 135 BTC promise for dec to pay back an Investor and I can answer RHavar now that you can give even more promises cause they were never intended to be kept!!!
you proved it today!

IMO it is time for trusted members to cover you with red trust! and if they think you are the guy with the correct behavior as you are pretending to be so they should give me red trust because I am blaming you for things you didnt do





Yes, I addressed that promise.  I failed to be able to keep it and I explained why.

You're toxic because you yell incoherent things and don't back them up.  You take quotes out of context and you put words in other people's mouths.  You deliberately set things up to make us look bad.  3 [scams] really?  Even when it was resolved.   You kept .2 BTC from us.  Just kept it.  Support said they would give you Rubies transactions once you returned it, but you never did.  You even quoted it here in this thread.  

People begged me to start a scam accusation on you, but I really didn't want to deal with you at all.  To me, .2 stolen by you was a good price to pay to never have to deal with you.  

Please read what I said to Dooglus.  I didn't go ahead and say 'yeah dooglus, go and buy up as much rubies as you can', I clarified what had been said:

Quote from: Dogedigital on September 26, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.  

And C'mon man.  I've explained this several times to you.  I never claimed to be the original founder of Moneypot or the one who coded it.  There are differences however with the company called Moneypot Inc.  This is a great example of how you take things out context and try to use it to attack us constantly.  You have brought it up at least 5 times when you've been given the answer and explanation to it.

I didn't even mention previous investors.  Why do you keep injecting things into posts?  Stop putting words in my mouth.  We are doing the best we can on that front.  The ICO partnership would have helped strengthen the network and ability for us to do that, but you thought it was a great idea to sabotage it and send private messages to a bunch of people saying 'you didn't read the whitepaper, but you're sure we'll scam'.  You even got mad at us having a tight and secure escrow team assembled to hold funds throughout.

Stop putting words in my mouth.  We've always intended to make good on that.  We have said that 100 times to you.  This is asinine.

Please again, where are the lies in the quote?  Also, do you plan on answering the lies I actually accused you of ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 )  ?


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October 14, 2017, 06:38:04 AM
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It came from me only.  No one has lost money from it (to my knowledge).  Many have made a ton.

Pending order is JPR who kept .2 btc and didn't return it and 10k rubies he has stated he wanted to do.

You can negative trust me if you want from it, even though I didn't make people lose money from it.

Your offer to always buy back at 1000 satoshis per Ruby, while Rubies stake at 5% per year was equivalent to you promising 5% interest for holding BTC, forever.

I would have bought a bunch if I believed you would keep your word, but it seemed too good to be true.

I'm sure some people will have bought Rubies based on your promise, and didn't hear yet that you are planning not to keep your word. How would you know?

We didn't want people to go out and buy a bunch of Rubies based on what we said.  We explicitly told people at every chance we could remember to specifically not do this.  We didn't release it for people to treat it like a loan.  We wanted to support the network and give it back value.

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Regarding the decision I made:

It was a hard decision to make.  The system was in danger of not being able to work the way it was intended to.

We're working first on bringing Rubies (R2B2 form) live and give it a breathing ecosystem.

It's a long term play, that will slightly inconvenience those (whom have already more than benefited from our actions) looking to abuse and take profits based off of technicalities and reward those that actually bought in before our promise or even after -- the ones that might have believed in the coin from the start and the ones we set out to help in the first place by even making such an offer in the first place.  Once it stablizes, things can continue and the former will be able to benefit off of a healthier and stronger crypcurrency

The plan was always to support the Rubies network.  It wasn't our coin before and we brought it back up when it was at 200 satoshi (it's been nowhere that price since).  We didn't try to market it for selling.  We didn't ask people to buy Rubies off of us.  We stayed off the exchanges to avoid market manipulation.  We didn't tell 'friends' to do any actions based on what or may have been done on our part.  

I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.  I don't deny blame in that.  But I'm picking what I feel is the best action for Rubies overall and I'm not going to do something different out of fear of more harassment or negative trust.



only lies and good you cant lock this thread!

my in depth answers will come later just wanted to be sure you dont delete or edit it

Which part of my quote involves a lie?  You can't just keep yelling wolf and not show your work.  At least when I called you a liar ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 ), I pointed out exactly where.   And yet you ran away instead of answering it, attacking me in other threads.  I try to stay away from you as much as possible.  You are the most toxic human being I have ever met and I've met some pretty bad ones.

thats very interesting! your PMs are sounding totally different to your posting and red trust you gave me! you are attacking me here and same time begging me to stop. are you for real?

did I promise you any compensation? did I promise to
" always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

NO! you did! did you forget this?

you are talking about "toxic"? you try to use RHavars word with the wrong person. you are the TOXIC Liar and CHEATER

sadly you are proving it with every posting and PM of yours!

as dooglus pointed it out you even about 3 weeks ago restated your RBIES promise! and now? the promise is cancelled LOL and I am toxic? because I am telling the truth and facts? dooglus is more polite than me because you did not attack him like me. dooglus was smarter than me not to believe you when you promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

soon you will say it was unintentionally promised or a slip of tongue like your false claim you are the Moneypot Founder

or your promise to compensate Investors! si this promise still on? LOL or is it already off? I mean in your head because you will declare it off whenever it pleases you! people who give promises like you just to call them off whenever they like are in my eyes the worst CHEATERS ever

RHavar asked you how can you give such promises like the promise for Investors and the 135 BTC promise for dec to pay back an Investor and I can answer RHavar now that you can give even more promises cause they were never intended to be kept!!!
you proved it today!

IMO it is time for trusted members to cover you with red trust! and if they think you are the guy with the correct behavior as you are pretending to be so they should give me red trust because I am blaming you for things you didnt do





Yes, I addressed that promise.  I failed to be able to keep it and I explained why.

You're toxic because you yell incoherent things and don't back them up.  You take quotes out of context and you put words in other people's mouths.  You deliberately set things up to make us look bad.  3 [scams] really?  Even when it was resolved.   You kept .2 BTC from us.  Just kept it.  Support said they would give you Rubies transactions once you returned it, but you never did.  You even quoted it here in this thread.  

People begged me to start a scam accusation on you, but I really didn't want to deal with you at all.  To me, .2 stolen by you was a good price to pay to never have to deal with you.  

Please read what I said to Dooglus.  I didn't go ahead and say 'yeah dooglus, go and buy up as much rubies as you can', I clarified what had been said:

Quote from: Dogedigital on September 26, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
a promise was made by Moneypot to always buy Rubies for 1000 Satoshis each.  

And C'mon man.  I've explained this several times to you.  I never claimed to be the original founder of Moneypot or the one who coded it.  There are differences however with the company called Moneypot Inc.  This is a great example of how you take things out context and try to use it to attack us constantly.  You have brought it up at least 5 times when you've been given the answer and explanation to it.

I didn't even mention previous investors.  Why do you keep injecting things into posts?  Stop putting words in my mouth.  We are doing the best we can on that front.  The ICO partnership would have helped strengthen the network and ability for us to do that, but you thought it was a great idea to sabotage it and send private messages to a bunch of people saying 'you didn't read the whitepaper, but you're sure we'll scam'.  You even got mad at us having a tight and secure escrow team assembled to hold funds throughout.

Stop putting words in my mouth.  We've always intended to make good on that.  We have said that 100 times to you.  This is asinine.

Please again, where are the lies in the quote?  Also, do you plan on answering the lies I actually accused you of ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2187535.msg22290779#msg22290779 )  ?


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yes go on twisting all around and blaming me instead of yourself. all trusted members are welcome to give me red trust cause I treated you wrong and I did not keep my promises to you. my advise is wake up

why didnt you put the right wording in first place. Moneypot Founder and Moneypot Founder Inc is a difference and you know it very well and I will say it again and again that you guys did it by purpose with bad intentions. everything I claim is out of context LOL thx for the laugh.

did I promise to compensate the Investors or you? I am one of the Investors and it is my right to claim it if you like it or not! you have an easy choice, just call it off as you did with the RBIES promise!

why did you send me the RBIES address in PM?

MP support and you the owners are for me same!

I dont trust you and I lost a lot of coins with RBIES and my Investment! now tell me it is a lie!








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October 16, 2017, 06:40:28 AM
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what Moneypot/Dogedigital proved is actually that their promises are promises not to keep their promises!

Moneypot is a shame and disgrace for the BTC gambling industry





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I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.

How did you not understand that effectively offering 5% per year in BTC forever was a bad idea?

I pointed it out to you at the time and you chose to ignore me.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

I can't accept that you didn't "foresee" the problem with offering 5% returns forever on a deflationary asset. It's pretty obvious that that could never work - especially if you have someone *telling you* about it *at the time*.

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October 16, 2017, 07:22:38 PM
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I didn't foresee a lot of things happening and for it was a huge mistake to state what I did.

How did you not understand that effectively offering 5% per year in BTC forever was a bad idea?

I pointed it out to you at the time and you chose to ignore me.

How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever.

Are you really saying that you guarantee to always buy Rubies for 0.00001000 BTC each?

I can't accept that you didn't "foresee" the problem with offering 5% returns forever on a deflationary asset. It's pretty obvious that that could never work - especially if you have someone *telling you* about it *at the time*.

interesting that you came up now with this posting. yesterday I had a long discussion with my partner about Dogedigital's promise cancellation. I said to my partner:
Dogedigital and his partners had an idea and they thought it is a good idea. ok but as soon dooglus posted
How can you make this promise when Rubies stake at 5% per year?

You seem to be promising me 5% interest on my Rubies, paid in BTC, forever........................................................


and I posted my question what does "always" mean?


Dogedigital and his partners should sit back and say ooops maybe something is wrong with our idea. lets think it over again. my partner said how could they ignore dooglus question and objection to this idea? I was also wondering why he ignored your question but I was not surprised about his sarcastic and arrogant answer he gave me. this answer showed all the hate he has against me and his brain is just shutting down if any discussion is connected to me.

the sad thing is that he will not learn from mistakes





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