[SCAM SCAM]MONEYPOT[SCAM SCAM] officially announced not to buy RBIES as promised

[JackpotRacer]

another follow up

instead a RBIES address I received an email from Moneypot support with an impertinent request. I promised to declare this scam accusation thread as solved for now and thats what I did. I also removed red trust connected to the RBIES scam accusation

in case that Moneypot will go on with their dirty game I will reopen this scam accusation and give again the red trust. I keep my word

I am asking Moneypot again to start keeping their promises without any delays, dirty games and attacks. just keep your promises.

you can read back if I attacked someone here without being attacked before. I will always mirror them. for example did I ever say to RHavar Moron? or that anyone is spreading FUD?

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[JackpotRacer]

confirming that I received 0.3 BTC right now after exactly 24 hours. very good timing. all in all 48 hours from the moment asking for the address asking for the address.

edit
even I am not satisfied with the very long timing till I received my BTC I will keep my word and declare the scam accusation for now "Solved"

lets see ho wit will go on

You have made a valid point by making them keep to their word and a lesson to the MoneyPot admin or DogeDigital not to make promises they are not sure what the future is going to look like. If they had known, they would have put a disclaimer that they would only be able to cover only up to a certain benchmark and that would have saved a lot of all these troubles.

Truth be told the reason why they are holding their own end is because of the ongoing ICO which they dont want to taint because not been able to keep to their word and of they cant do that for what happen in the past, how can I trust them for the one they are making now?.

However, I think you should cut them some slack on how you are going about this whole thing because its starting to look at an intentional attitude which might be regarded as FUD and the moment that happens, you lose the moral ground for what you are asking. My humble opinion on what is going on.

first of all thx for the straight forward posting.

Moneypot mad many promises and did not keep them even till today. Dogedigital will not like it but if he would be smart he woul dadmit it and start from scratch with keeping the promises and think before he promises something. I remember well when almost 1 year ago when he promised to buy back RBIES for the floor price of 1000 Satoshi. I asked very confused what does "always" mean? Dogedigital answered very sarcastic and very arrogant that it means

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:

also @Dooglus asked how can he give such a promise? and he didnt answer him

Dogedigital needs to learn to keep promises and need to learn to think before he gives promises. as he is according to himself an experienced businessman I agree to remember him and let him keep his promises. IMO nothing wrong with that

regarding the ICO I have to say that I did not know that they will do an ICO but they knew it and if they knew they are going out with a big ICO they should build trust first by keeping old promises and build up from there.

Dogedigital is trying to let it look like intentional and against the ICO. Wrong! sorry to say that because I really appreciate your input. to be frank this ICO had no chance as it was very bad prepared. 2 years with empty promises and 2 years needed for V2 and all promises like RBIES and other alt coins to implement and then rushing to implement the V2 because of the hasty decision to do an ICO. just take a look how many apps changed to V2 and how many complaints are there that there are many bugs. 6 apps changed to V2 and before there were 1000 + apps. the normal way would have been to switch to V2 long ago to help all app owners to switch to V2 and then sit back and take a look if all works fine and only then to go out for the ICO. sadly they didnt ask me before cause I would have told them how to do it.

ask yourself why famous apps like Bubblesbit - Vegascasinobits - BetterBets - Dragon casino - Coinmillions etc did not yet switch to V2?

there is no FUD in my statements but Dogedigital is telling his followers JPR is telling FUD and trying to cover his mistakes. I am not his floor mat where he can clean his dirty feet

did you see that RHavar, Dooglus, Stunna,Bitsler or some other serious casino owners locked so many threads like Moneypot owners did? they didnt lock even one thread cause they knew how to handle support issues

why did MP close the Slack channel that works fine for everyone but not for MP? did RHavar pre MP owner close the Slack channel? No
all this is not serious business behavior. why does an app owner go to the forum and ask important stuff about V2 codes or API? or head dev is posting in forum that he will help app owners to switch to V2? please check here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2215165.0
did he answer to help. ok only 2 users asked but answer cant hurt. I hope you get to understand my point

a business like MP needs a slack channel to have contact to the app owners

they should just keep their promises and not argue about it. MP has a dictatorship attitude and are very fast to attack me and I am against dictatorship and I am very fast to defend myself

believe me I could go on and on and there is no FUD or lies to find

read back all the forum and check if I attacked someone without he attacked me or did mistreat Jackpotracer casino

as you see I declared for now this Scam accusation for "Solved" I have no reason to attack MP as long they keeping their promises
Jackpotracer Team was always a fan of MP business idea and it did not change and we always wanted it to succeed. we were top 3 app for a long time there. we love BTC Provably Fair and Fair Play


good luck

[JackpotRacer]

I had to REOPEN the Scam accusation

I have sent 48 hours ago 20k RBIES to MP and they promised to send me the BTC within 24 hours

they did not send the BTC till now and they dont answer my mails! that is a real Shame

20000.00000000 RBIES
24535a2821412f51506e864f9a04f20c4a3ba0d7175063dd4fd218e2dc0f1a44

[JackpotRacer]

again resolved! I hope it will stay resolved

[JackpotRacer]

the behavior of MP is getting very weird now. please let me explain in short and I can prove it to any trusted member anytime

I have send an email to MP support as always and asked for a RBIES address. I received the addy and send 20k RBIES. the answer was that  it will take them up to 24 hours to send me the BTC

I have send another email and asked if I shall send another 10k RBIES to the same address or they will send me a new address.
No answer! I have send another mail asking if I shall send the 10k RBIES to same address

48 hours gone and no BTC and no answer! I have send another mail:
please answer if you gonna pay the BTC for my 20k RBIES?

also where to send the 10k I wanna sell? to a new address or the same

No answer and no BTC send to me

I reopened the Scam accusation with the explanation why I opened it

shortly after I received an email from MP support
This has now been sent.

Our apologies on the delay. We are running behind assisting with the refunding of the MPX ico.

I checked if it was send and saw that they have send me the 0.2 twice and mailed them immediately that it looks like an error and they send 0.4

I received an email from MP support telling me
Our support team has accidentally sent the transaction twice.

Please kindly send the .2btc (minus fees) back to ............................

as I wanted anyway to sell them some more RBIES my answer was
rechecked it and that is correct. it was send twice

I hope it is fine for you that I send you 20k RBIES. please send me a RBIES address so I can send it

MP support answer
We have a system that all transactions have to go through.

This was an error on my part

We can re-initialize a new transaction for the rubies afterwards.

I thought why shall I send the 0.2 BTC back and then they will do the RBIES deal afterwards and send me the same 0.2 again huh
very strange for me.

my answer was
sorry that does not make sense

please send me a RBIES address

the answer from MP support was
I am kindly asking you to return the errored payment.

I was not authorized to send it. It was a mistake.

Once you send back, we can set up a new transaction again to be processed

I then asked again more than once by mail for a RBIES address but did not get any answer from MP support till now

I want to send the 20k RBIES instead of the 0.2 BTC and asked for another address to send more RBIES

as a reminder the answer and promise from Dogedigital
"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:

I would have send the 0.2 BTC back if I would not own RBIES anymore but I want to sell more RBIES and MP didnt want to buy from me and later just playing around and trying to play with me by paying me with delays as they decide

I am waiting for the RBIES address to send them the 20k RBIES and waiting for a new address to send some more

[JackpotRacer]

after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
JPR

 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.

my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR

and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back

[audaciousbeing]

after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
JPR

 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.

my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR

and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back

Guy, you must have really had them to have made them committed to this extent. That being said, in my opinion, I think they have a point to have insisted that you send the coins first to them before further transacting with you. Why? Because looking at the precedence of the transaction you have had with them, its you sending first before they send you back your equivalent btc but in this case you are doing a form of reversal.

Its obvious they are trying hard to honor the word but I you do what they are asking for then you can have more ground to accuse and even get them tagged as well.

[JackpotRacer]

after a few mails to MP support

another try to get an answer

please send me the RBIES address for the 20K and another address for 10k more

kind regards
JPR

 I received not long ago the following answer

Sir,

I cannot transact with you until you return the funds.

my answer was
believe me you can

are you trying to fool me? you promised to buy RBIES and I have some to sell you.

rethink your decision not to fulfill your PROMISE

kind regards
JPR

and the MP support answered now
You can definitely sell your rubies.  It goes through a process and I can't get that started until you send back the funds.

and another mail
I have explained to you.  I am trying to receive the funds back and then restart the transaction so I can process it properly. 

they insist that I will send the 0.2 BTC first and only then I can sell the 20k RBIES for the same 0.2 BTC I have already huh they insist on double fees

I dont see any reason to send the 0.2 BTC back and then to initiate a RBIES deal for the same amount. one can see what they want to achieve.

I am asking again for trusted members to read this scam accusation and give MP owners the red trust they earn. they promised to buy the RBIES and now again they start a dirty game to avoid to buy RBIES back

Guy, you must have really had them to have made them committed to this extent. That being said, in my opinion, I think they have a point to have insisted that you send the coins first to them before further transacting with you. Why? Because looking at the precedence of the transaction you have had with them, its you sending first before they send you back your equivalent btc but in this case you are doing a form of reversal.

Its obvious they are trying hard to honor the word but I you do what they are asking for then you can have more ground to accuse and even get them tagged as well.

respecting your opinion but I dont TRUST them and no one should TRUST them after not staying to their own promise. please read the promise again!

they did not want to buy RBIES back thats how the trouble and the scam accusation started!

without Dooglus's (a trusted member and sadly the only trusted member till now) comment (just read back) they still would try not to buy back the RBIES

beside all this it is much easier to get the RBIES send from me and go on buying RBIES from me!!!

they try with all tricks to avoid to buy the RBIES back from me. it is just a dirty game they play!!! easy as that

I will never send the 0.2 back in BTC just in RBIES as they promised to buy those FOREVER

they did all promises! they need to blame themselves for such stupid promises! I have RBIES and they promised to buy it and now they are regretting the promise!

I would like to see the trusted members who are very quick giving red trust to cheaters but here they did not react yet. why? I dont know but that they are cheating is very obvious if you like it or not

MP owners are very stupid to think that they can get away with this kind of cheat!

I want to send them RBIES they promised to buy FOREVER and they are not accepting it! RBIES looks like shit coin then becuase they want the BTC back and not the RBIES. who can guarantee that I get the BTC back for my RBIES? YOU?

[Jprfan]

yeah fuck you cheater mp dick cheese lick scum.
 If you ever fucking send me bitcoin for no reason I'll destroy you fucking cheat fuck small dick no ball clown

To all default trust members. Please mark these cheating fucks.  What would you do if you were in our Kings shoes?  Receiving Bitcoin for free that probably has malware in it. 

If you don't mark these clowns you are dickless girls.

[|Admiral|]

Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

[zikabra]

Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

[JackpotRacer]

Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

yes you didnt get this!! I assume that you want to show your sig or you are somehow related to MP owners

sorry to say that this was a stupid posting. next time please read the first posting

Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

@Admiral I dont know you and you have no reason to attack me that I am scum!
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why would I go to any thread where you are posting and attacking you with such words? I never did and I never will but as you are attacking me I will defend myself

but if you want to help MP owners I can tell you how

[Jprfan]

Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

Fuck you.  Your opinion doesn't matter.  Show your signature off somewhere else.

 

Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

Fuck you too.  Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants.  He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit.  Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.

[yahoo62278]

I know you don't care for my opinion but too bad. Looks to me like you're stealing .2 here. I don't know what's going on with moneypot lately as my site isn't even up anymore, but from what I read they sent you extra $$$ by mistake and asked you to return it. You have no right to keep that money. I'm sure it's most likely for book keeping purposes and you can initiate another trade after returning what they asked.

I'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.

[zikabra]

Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

yes you didnt get this!! I assume that you want to show your sig or you are somehow related to MP owners

sorry to say that this was a stupid posting. next time please read the first posting

You are basically saying to all people who disagree with you that they are spamming or they are somehow related to MP and you are doing it for very long time.
Do you know why not a single DT member doesn't bother to read your scam accusation and respond to it? Because you are fucking moron. Read your posts and polls - they are all related to MP and you are attacking them in every single poll and post!

You think you are superior well guess what - you are not!

Now lets see, my signature spam - do you think people are horses and they have to put blinkers when they talk with you and they have to agree on everything you say?
Guess what - they don't have to agree with you!
Also use google and type "horse blinkers" and read what is their purpose!

And finally read forum rules - trolling is not allowed, i am not sure who is allowing you to troll this forum for so long time.

[JackpotRacer]

I know you don't care for my opinion but too bad. Looks to me like you're stealing .2 here. I don't know what's going on with moneypot lately as my site isn't even up anymore, but from what I read they sent you extra $$$ by mistake and asked you to return it. You have no right to keep that money. I'm sure it's most likely for book keeping purposes and you can initiate another trade after returning what they asked.

I'm trying to remain objective and see both sides of the argument. I know you have a personal grudge against the moneypot team and most of the rest of the world but if you do not return the money I would advise MP to open their own scam accusation and let the community decide whom needs tagged.

you are trying to be objective! thx for the laugh

no faecal language this time? like Asshole, kiss my ass, etc! I am not sure if your account was not hacked

lets see if you are objective? just answer or explain what the following means

 Dogedigital promised

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:

when I opened the scam accusation MP didnt want to buy my RBIES. why didnt you chime in as the objective guy you are telling us that you are? why didnt you write "hey MP you promised to buy RBIES forever so buy it!"

I dont trust MP owners because they promised to buy RBIES (and then they denied to buy from me)


1. every time; on every occasion; without exception:

2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly:

3. forever

4. in any event; at any time; if necessary:

and not to forget this arrogant start of the answer

"Moneypot will always honour an exchange of at least 1000 Satoshi for Rubies."

edit to prevent unncessary clutter;

definition -- always:

adverb

I hope you understand the definition of "always" now because Dogedigital explained it in depth and very clear even for people like me

I asked many times to send me a RBIES address to send them the 20k RBIES equivalent to 0.2 BTC and asked for another address to send some more RBIES. sadly they didnt send me the 2 addys but it shows very vlear that they dont want to stand to their promise to buy the RBIES as promised

@yahoo are you a trusted member? if yes ..........how about that you will be the middleman (because you tryst MP owners and always defending them) and I send you the 0.2 BTC but you need to guarantee that I can sell my RBIES? as soon MP owners dont want to buy my RBIES for the floor of 1000 satoshi each RBIES you will need to buy my RBIES and sell it to MP. I am sure you sold already your RBIES you owned ( I know you owned a few when MP announced the implementation of RBIES long ago and then they didnt keep the promise (as always) and you implemented it to Bubbles on your own without MP)

[dooglus]

RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.

Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.

Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.

MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?

[JackpotRacer]

RBIES are available on livecoin for less than 700 satoshis each, and MoneyPot will buy them from you at 1000 satoshis each.

Moneypot promised to buy at the 1000 floor price but they try to avoid to buy and right now they dont buy ( at least from me )

Does that represent a sure 42% profit? Buy at 700, sell at 1000, repeat.

it does represent a sure profit and everyone should do this arbitrage IMO because Dogedigital opened the door for this arbitrage but as I mentioned above Moenypot tries with all might to avoid to keep the promise

Even better, RBIES stake - so you can hold them after buying and make even more.

correct but risky if Moneypot will not buy it at the promised floor price

MoneyPot should be buying up the supply on livecoin to stop people taking advantage of this. If they put up a large buy wall at 1000 this would stop being an issue, and people who wanted to sell their RBIES for 1000 satoshis each would have a quick and easy way of doing so. Win/win, right?

this is what I thought that they will do when Dogedigital made this promise! I remember very well when you asked your very logic question because you were surprised about his offer and promise to buy RBIES "always" at the 1000 satoshi floor price and Dogedigital didnt answer you.
and when I asked very confused and surprised about his promise to buy "always" and what "always" means? Dogedigital answered in a very arrogant way (seen in postings above)

to be frank I was sure Moneypot will sit with a 1000 satoshi buy wall on the exchanges and implement RBIES into MP apps. as we see and know now they didnt put the buy wall and they didnt implement the RBIES but they are whining and dont want to keep their promise to buy the RBIES

question is why did they give such a promise and why didnt they do the buy wall as you mentioned correctly? they should have known that this could open an arbitrage possibility for everyone and why shouldnt the users not doing this arbitrage?

we (Jackpotracer) bought many RBIES long ago when MP promised to implement RBIES to MP apps "Soon" for a very high price. we used it for promos and were waiting to put it into the bank roll. I know many users  and app owners did the same. BTCjoe, gamblingbad, yahoo, professor just to mention some well known. we all were very disappointed

for me it does not matter if MP is opening a buy wall for 1000 satoshi or they buy the RBIES direct as long as MP is keeping their promise to buy the RBIES "always"

[JackpotRacer]

in any case MP is doing all they can not to buy my RBIES

in case MP buys from other users (please let me know if there are users out there who sold RBIES to MP in the last 10 days) and not from me it is clearly a SCAM and personal against me!

in case MP buys not from other users and not from me it is clearly also a SCAM

in both cases MP owners should get Red Trust from Trusted users

but in case Trusted users think that I stole from MP the 0.2 BTC then they should give me Red Trust

just for info then that I am mailing each day a few times and asking for the RBIES address to send them the 20K RBIES equivalent to the 0.2 BTC and to send me another addy to send another 10k RBIES but till now no addy received!

I am also willing as I proposed to user @yahoo (he sadly disappeared) to send the 0.2 BTC to a Trusted user and another 20k RBIES so he will need to send me back the 0.2 BTC for the 20k RBIES (waste of fees). additionally I want to get another RBIES address to send some more RBIES

right now MP owners are scamming me as a RBIES owner

[Pearls Before Swine]

Jackpot Racer you are scum. Previously i sided with you but not anymore now. Based on your whims you open and close the threads and dont care about others opinion, when they paid yu 0.3 BTC then you did not gave a fuck attention to us and silently settled the thread and now again coming here and begging DT members. If you need help you must respect community and try to move with them not be selfish.

Fuck you.  Your opinion doesn't matter.  Show your signature off somewhere else.

 

Lets see if I get this.

MP offered 1000 satoshi for 1 RBIES forrever.
You are buying RBIES for less then 1000 satoshi in exchange and trying to sell them to MP for 1000 satoshi.
And you are accusing them of scam because they don't want to buy RBIES for 1000 satoshi - knowing their lower value.
It is very weird scam accusation.

Fuck you too.  Jackpotracer can do whatever he wants.  He will take that .4 btc as a payment for his time and use it to buy more rabies to sell back for profit.  Jackpotracer is smart. You are dumb.

If they made the promise to buy rbies at 1000sat and the market price is
below that, anyone has the right to use that as an arbitrage opportunity. They're
the ones who made the guarantee.   And, I might add, it's ONLY in cases like
that that someone would take them up on it!  What do you expect?

Edited to add: Yeah, I get it, Jackpotracer. I'm with you on this issue.