Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"!

[johntrichfield]

Main Points:
If someone says to use the Monbux "automatic email system" as escrow, they are a scammer! Make sure to contact Monbux directly!


A user and I were making a deal over .08 btc. He said we should ask Monbux to be our escrow, as he's the most trusted escrow on this forum (and he probably is). I told him that Monbux would charge .01 btc to escrow it, so in reply, he told me that he would cover escrow fees. This kind of stuck to me, because he was very adamant on the price, and by covering that fee, it would've almost been a 1:1 preev exchange on his side. He then proceeded to tell me we should use Monbux's "automatic email system". He acted incredulous after I asked him what it was, and how to use it. "You don't know what the monbux's automatic email system is?!" <- that kind of thing. He ended up explaining that to use the automatic email system, I had to post what I needed escrow'ed, and my email, on Monbux's topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0. So I did. Then a couple minutes after I posted, I received an email from freedomose@gmail.com, as I was told. And realize, this is just a minute or two. Here's what the email said:

I’ve Spoken to the user and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards.
Thanks,
Monbux

That's when it finally dawned on me that he was a scammer. He'd gotten my email when I'd posted it, and sent me that message himself. It also stands to reason why he said he'd pay for escrow fees, when he was so adamant on the price to begin with.

I will update with proof tomorrow, and the whole conversation, as it is getting very late.

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[pinkman12345]

Monbux is a reliable and one of the trsuted escrow on this site. Until unless you hear adirect reply from him assume that youhave been negotiating with a impersonator.

[Laravel]

Thanks for letting us know. It is very absurd to believe this "automatic email system". It's like transacting to a freelance site with automatic granting for payment but in this situation with a person (monbux), not a site LOL. Scammers really never sleep to think ways to fool other people and to steal their money.

[Danos]

Thanks for for finding this bullshit.
Do you mind share with us how did i tried to scam you, where and how ?
Don't forget to complete this to make the scammer report proper -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0
Also, please, next time when you try to point someone with bad words and notepad story's, at least connect them with some proofs.
Not really care about your bullshits because they are already in dead end.
Looking forward to see your proper scam report ofc proof based.

[Lauda]

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He said we should ask Monbux to be our escrow, as he's the most trusted escrow on this forum (and he probably is).

He is not, and he is often very inactive.

He then proceeded to tell me we should use Monbux's "automatic email system".

Avoid any kind of "automatic" systems when it comes to escrowing and money in general.

Do you mind share with us how did i tried to scam you, where and how ?

Assuming that this was you:

Then a couple minutes after I posted, I received an email from freedomose@gmail.com, as I was told. And realize, this is just a minute or two. Here's what the email said:

I’ve Spoken to the user Danos and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards.
Thanks,
Monbux

[Danos]

As i requested above, please, show us how and when i tried to scam you, what the "escrow" emailed you, and how everything is connected with me.
Can't wait to see it! Please, make sure you do it before  2020.

Edit: Lauda, how im  freedomose@gmail.com ? or  freedomose@gmail.com was the escrow he emailed him? or that's the OP email?
This is going more and more interesting but making no sense.
I hope the OP will provide some proof based story.

Edit2: Now i read that you received email from that freedomose.
Do you mind explain me, how that email freedomose is connected with monbux or me somehow?
Do you mind show us screenshot of the email please?
Do you mind show us the connection between me, monbux, and this email.
Do you mind show us where and how i told you to request escrow?

You just put blablabla and don't show us nothing as proof...
I beg you, please, show us.

[Laravel]

After reading again the topic, I realized that there is a chance an unknown person may pretend that he's monbux since the email is publicly available on monbux's thread and anyone can send an email to OP.
Then if OP knew that it's a scam email, the prime suspect will be no other than Danos, the buyer.

Worst scenario, you two are fighting while the real culprit is eating popcorns and having fun reading your stories.

Posting your pm screenshots or granting any trusted member to check the authenticity of the messages will be a good way to fix this problem.

[Danos]

After reading again the topic, I realized that there is a chance an unknown person may pretend that he's monbux since the email is publicly available on monbux's thread and anyone can send an email to OP.
Then if OP knew that it's a scam email, the prime suspect will be no other than Danos, the buyer.

Worst scenario, you two are fighting while the real culprit is eating popcorns and having fun reading your stories.

Posting your pm screenshots or granting any trusted member to check the authenticity of the messages will be a good way to fix this problem.

I will be more than happy to see the OP evidences against me.
Consider there would be none, that would be interesting.
Not sure what the case is because im not really aware how im connected with the email above, monbux or this guy at all.
The only pm i exchanged with this guy was a question about his sales and how someone can contact him.
But consider his contact details are public, yeah, you maybe right.

[johntrichfield]

Sorry for not posting in the right scam accusation format. I will edit after I make this post. Anyway, here's the entire conversation. Quentin Thornton is me, and live:limegp is Danos. Before you read it though, I'm going to answer some questions.

Laravel: I considered this option also, but there's a very, very tiny chance this is true. If you read through the conversation, Danos was very adamant on the price, and as soon as I proved to him Monbux charged a fee, he immediately said he'd cover it (a $53 dollar fee to mention, which would mean it was a 1:1 preev exhange, with gift cards) Also, not only that, the email said he'd talked with Danos, and that the .08 btc was "secured", only 1 minute or so after I posted my email. Just enough time to write up the email and send it (I've attached a screenshot of the email). Not only does all this evidence point towards Danos being the scammer, but I want to know where he found this "automatic escrow system" if he really wasn't scamming. I've seen Monbux's page, and it's not mentioned anywhere, so how the heck would Danos know about this "automatic escrow system" if he didn't make it up himself?

Now, with all that out of the way, Danos, if you really weren't trying to scam me, and you could prove it, I will quickly retract the comment I made on your trust, and I will leave you with my utmost apologies. Otherwise, all evidence points toward you being a scammer.

Link to screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/zwLNR

Email:

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I’ve Spoken to the user Danos and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards. 

Thanks, 
Monbux

Skype Conversation:

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[10/11/2017 6:07:25 AM] Quentin Thornton: Who's this?
[10/11/2017 6:08:36 AM] live:limegp: hello mate
[10/11/2017 6:08:39 AM] live:limegp: about the amazon I guess
[10/11/2017 6:09:05 AM] Quentin Thornton: Oh yeah
[10/11/2017 6:09:23 AM] Quentin Thornton: How much in gift cards for .085 btc?
[10/11/2017 6:09:52 AM] live:limegp: i tough you were selling
[10/11/2017 6:10:54 AM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah, I'm selling amazon gift cards. How much money in gift cards are you asking for .085 btc
[10/11/2017 6:11:48 AM] live:limegp: 0.085 is around 407$
[10/11/2017 6:11:55 AM] live:limegp: if I'm right at current rate of 4793$
[10/11/2017 6:11:59 AM] live:limegp: so i guess 500$
[10/11/2017 6:12:10 AM] live:limegp: why u need exactly 0.085?
[10/11/2017 6:12:29 AM] Quentin Thornton: I'm buying something from someone
[10/11/2017 6:12:43 AM] live:limegp: something u can't buy from amazon i guess
[10/11/2017 6:13:01 AM] Quentin Thornton: yeah, that's a pretty big markup though, could you bring it down?
[10/11/2017 6:13:14 AM] live:limegp: well I'm in need of 1000$ actually
[10/11/2017 6:13:24 AM] live:limegp: do u have cards in hand or you need to buy them
[10/11/2017 6:13:38 AM] live:limegp: and u can't sell your amazon for 1:1 especially with bitcoin
[10/11/2017 6:13:43 AM] live:limegp: you should know that
[10/11/2017 6:14:03 AM] Quentin Thornton: I have around $100 in hand. I can buy in just a couple seconds though.
[10/11/2017 6:14:24 AM] live:limegp: sure
[10/11/2017 6:14:28 AM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah but 25% markup is huge, especially since we're going to have to pay for escrow
[10/11/2017 6:14:33 AM] live:limegp: 25?
[10/11/2017 6:14:49 AM] live:limegp: for 500$ 25% is 125$
[10/11/2017 6:15:11 AM] live:limegp: and everyone else selling around for 75-80%
[10/11/2017 6:15:14 AM] Quentin Thornton: yeah, it's 400, but you're asking for 500 -> 400 * 125 is 500
[10/11/2017 6:15:27 AM] live:limegp: u can check the market
[10/11/2017 6:15:30 AM] live:limegp: I'm not in rush
[10/11/2017 6:15:38 AM] live:limegp: you not going to find anyone legit paying more than 75-80%
[10/11/2017 6:15:40 AM] live:limegp: but its up to you
[10/11/2017 6:15:56 AM] live:limegp: also if u buying them online as you saying u can buy them in seconds
[10/11/2017 6:16:02 AM] live:limegp: means u buy them online with credit/debit card
[10/11/2017 6:16:10 AM] live:limegp: and those cards are named "carded" cards
[10/11/2017 6:16:16 AM] live:limegp: they are high risk
[10/11/2017 6:16:29 AM] live:limegp: because its easy for you to chargeback the payment you've done
[10/11/2017 6:16:33 AM] live:limegp: I'm pretty familiar with amazon
[10/11/2017 6:17:00 AM] Quentin Thornton: You should be able to redeem the cards though, and then I can't take the money back
[10/11/2017 6:17:34 AM] live:limegp: yes u can
[10/11/2017 6:17:39 AM] live:limegp: no matter they were redeemed
[10/11/2017 6:18:01 AM] live:limegp: anyway, my offer is 0.085btc for 500$ card
[10/11/2017 6:18:07 AM] live:limegp: either you go first or we can use escrow
[10/11/2017 6:18:10 AM] live:limegp: its the same for me
[10/11/2017 6:18:53 AM] live:limegp: if u find anyone legit selling cards at better rate, redirect me, i will take all his cards
[10/11/2017 6:18:58 AM] Quentin Thornton: Didn't know that. how about .08 btc for 430? I will go first
[10/11/2017 6:18:58 AM] live:limegp: but no one legit doing more than 75-80%
[10/11/2017 6:19:42 AM] live:limegp: that's 397 for 430$ card?
[10/11/2017 6:19:46 AM] live:limegp: not interested really\
[10/11/2017 6:19:53 AM] live:limegp: i can get cheapest rate
[10/11/2017 6:20:09 AM] Quentin Thornton: No, it's $380 for 430
[10/11/2017 6:20:28 AM] live:limegp: I'm sure some scammer will be happy to take your 430 for 380 and lie and scam you
[10/11/2017 6:20:38 AM] live:limegp: but I'm doing business here and not really interested in that rate
[10/11/2017 6:21:49 AM] live:limegp: may i know how you buying the cards?
[10/11/2017 6:21:50 AM] live:limegp: from where
[10/11/2017 6:22:05 AM] Quentin Thornton: Come on, what's the lowest you can go. I see people selling here on bitcointalk for 5% preev. And there's even people in my state selling for 1:1
[10/11/2017 6:22:32 AM] live:limegp: 5% preev ? if u paying with cash for sure, if you selling giftcards for btc no one is paying more than 75-80%
[10/11/2017 6:22:51 AM] live:limegp: I'm pretty honest with you
[10/11/2017 6:23:12 AM] Quentin Thornton: Okay, 20%
[10/11/2017 6:23:19 AM] Quentin Thornton: 450
[10/11/2017 6:23:22 AM] Quentin Thornton: ?
[10/11/2017 6:23:46 AM] live:limegp: do you agree to be paid in 24 hours cause of risk of card being charged back ?
[10/11/2017 6:24:06 AM] live:limegp: as i said I'm pretty familiar with amazon and security is on my first place
[10/11/2017 6:24:32 AM] Quentin Thornton: No, but I bought the 100 a day or two ago. I can show receipt. sec gtg
[10/11/2017 6:24:45 AM] live:limegp: you gtg?
[10/11/2017 6:24:51 AM] live:limegp: if you are busy or something we can continue this conversation later ?
[10/11/2017 6:25:58 AM] live:limegp: well msg me when you are available, i will take some at 80%
[10/11/2017 7:20:48 AM] live:limegp: so?
[10/11/2017 7:21:01 AM] live:limegp: may i know how you buying the cards and from where?
[10/11/2017 7:23:53 AM] live:limegp: if you are legit seller, we can do this anytime you wish, everyday
[10/11/2017 7:27:17 AM] live:limegp: are you there?
[10/11/2017 10:02:52 AM] live:limegp: msg me when u are here
[10/11/2017 11:02:32 AM] Quentin Thornton: Sorry about that. I'm here, but will have to go in just a little bit. I'm buying the gift cards online from PayPal digital gifts, and giftcards.com. I probably can't exchange right now, so maybe sometime in the afternoon
[10/11/2017 11:03:40 AM] live:limegp: okay, can you give me any estimate time after hour many hours you will be online
[10/11/2017 11:03:43 AM] live:limegp: so i can match my stuff
[10/11/2017 11:05:08 AM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah, at around 3:30 mountain standard time (it's 11 right now for reference) up until around 5, and then after 8:30 to 10ish
[10/11/2017 11:05:31 AM] live:limegp: so 4-5 hours
[10/11/2017 11:05:37 AM] live:limegp: ?
[10/11/2017 11:06:31 AM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah
[10/11/2017 11:35:38 AM] live:limegp: ok
[10/11/2017 12:47:48 PM] live:limegp: kk msg me when you are here
[10/11/2017 2:55:45 PM] live:limegp: im here
[10/11/2017 3:18:33 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm ready
[10/11/2017 3:18:44 PM] live:limegp: okay, u can buy the card
[10/11/2017 3:19:35 PM] Quentin Thornton: RTZJ-EVTWPW-C3UW <- that's 15. Please don't scam me! I work hard for this money
[10/11/2017 3:19:54 PM] Quentin Thornton: this is my bitcoin address: 12WnJRdDpMjroGxa9zU3QsRx3LQQpjiQ4E
[10/11/2017 3:20:06 PM] live:limegp: that's 15$ giftcard
[10/11/2017 3:20:12 PM] live:limegp: why u giving me 15$ giftcard ? :D
[10/11/2017 3:20:27 PM] Quentin Thornton: What do you mean?
[10/11/2017 3:20:45 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm going to send 450 total. But 15 to gain trust
[10/11/2017 3:20:51 PM] live:limegp: we were talking about 0.085 btc
[10/11/2017 3:21:01 PM] live:limegp: 15 to gain trust ? :D
[10/11/2017 3:21:18 PM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah...
[10/11/2017 3:21:38 PM] live:limegp: DDE>>>DUDE>>> :D
[10/11/2017 3:22:44 PM] Quentin Thornton: Oh..no...I'm asking that you send 80% back in bitcoin. So send me 12 in bitcoin. Then I'll do higher denominations
[10/11/2017 3:22:56 PM] Quentin Thornton: until we get to 450
[10/11/2017 3:23:02 PM] live:limegp: I will just take the amounts at once
[10/11/2017 3:23:29 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm not doing that unless we get an escrow
[10/11/2017 3:24:54 PM] live:limegp: sure lets get escrow then
[10/11/2017 3:24:58 PM] live:limegp: get the card and we will request one
[10/11/2017 3:25:35 PM] live:limegp: I'm not going to use that 15$ also
[10/11/2017 3:27:29 PM] live:limegp: let me know when u buy it so we can request escrow
[10/11/2017 3:30:10 PM] Quentin Thornton: If we're going to use an escrow, you're going to have to lower your fees. It's going to come up to +30%, and that's way to much
[10/11/2017 3:32:04 PM] live:limegp: dude :D
[10/11/2017 3:32:11 PM] live:limegp: there is no reason to lower my fees
[10/11/2017 3:32:15 PM] live:limegp: because there is high trusted free escrow
[10/11/2017 3:34:52 PM] live:limegp: actually he is 250 trust and the #1 escrow on bitcointalk
[10/11/2017 3:38:49 PM] Quentin Thornton: monbux? He charges a minimum of .01 bitcoin
[10/11/2017 3:39:11 PM] live:limegp: he got "tip" not a fee
[10/11/2017 3:39:14 PM] live:limegp: u tip him only if u want
[10/11/2017 3:39:18 PM] live:limegp: there is no fee
[10/11/2017 3:39:37 PM] Quentin Thornton: hmm..didn't know that
[10/11/2017 3:40:45 PM] Quentin Thornton: I contacted him a while back to see if he'd escrow this same transaction, but instead with paypal, not gift cards, he said no. I asked him later if would be will to do it with gift cards, and he hasn't replied. That was 2, almost 3 days ago
[10/11/2017 3:41:11 PM] live:limegp: he's doing giftcards :) don't pull some excuses :D
[10/11/2017 3:41:39 PM] Quentin Thornton: One sec. Let me screenshot
[10/11/2017 3:41:51 PM] live:limegp: I already requested and check
[10/11/2017 3:43:38 PM] Quentin Thornton: What do you mean you already requested and check?
[10/11/2017 3:44:30 PM] live:limegp: i requested did he do giftcard and he do
[10/11/2017 3:44:55 PM] Quentin Thornton: cool, let's talk about this later gtg
[10/11/2017 3:45:37 PM] live:limegp: you always need to go :D
[10/11/2017 4:59:15 PM] live:limegp: so we going to do something or not ?
[10/11/2017 5:01:27 PM] Quentin Thornton: yup. just got back
[10/11/2017 5:01:39 PM] Quentin Thornton: how is this going to work?
[10/11/2017 5:01:48 PM] live:limegp: monbux don't do paypal/skrill but doing giftcards
[10/11/2017 5:01:55 PM] Quentin Thornton: Do I send the gift card codes to monbux?
[10/11/2017 5:01:56 PM] live:limegp: and have you ever used his automatic system ?
[10/11/2017 5:02:10 PM] Quentin Thornton: No
[10/11/2017 5:02:30 PM] live:limegp: like everyone else requesting escrow and posting your email on thread ?
[10/11/2017 5:02:48 PM] Quentin Thornton: no..
[10/11/2017 5:02:56 PM] live:limegp: :D
[10/11/2017 5:03:30 PM] live:limegp: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0
[10/11/2017 5:03:48 PM] live:limegp: go to his thread, post requesting escrow with your email, you will receive automatic email from his with instructions
[10/11/2017 5:03:52 PM] live:limegp: you really never used it ?
[10/11/2017 5:04:54 PM] Quentin Thornton: nope. I'm gonna check it out real quick
[10/11/2017 5:05:00 PM] live:limegp: sure
[10/11/2017 5:05:29 PM] Quentin Thornton: omg I got to go again. Sorry! Will be back in 15 min
[10/11/2017 5:05:37 PM] live:limegp: is this joke ? :D
[10/11/2017 5:08:36 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay, I'm back :)
[10/11/2017 5:09:22 PM] live:limegp: ok so u can request
[10/11/2017 5:09:32 PM] Quentin Thornton: Yeah, I'll make a request
[10/11/2017 5:09:41 PM] live:limegp: once u have the cards ofc
[10/11/2017 5:09:53 PM] Quentin Thornton: yeah, I'm getting them right now
[10/11/2017 5:17:58 PM] live:limegp: tell me when u are ready
[10/11/2017 5:22:24 PM] live:limegp: anytime soon or u need some time
[10/11/2017 5:22:45 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay, just wrote it up
[10/11/2017 5:22:54 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm going to post it now
[10/11/2017 5:22:56 PM] live:limegp: did u get the cARDS?
[10/11/2017 5:23:33 PM] Quentin Thornton: I've got around 200, but I'm having trouble buying more. But I should definitely have enough by the time he replies
[10/11/2017 5:24:10 PM] live:limegp: he got automatic email system buddy
[10/11/2017 5:24:23 PM] Quentin Thornton: Wait, this is a quote from monbux "I've responded to everyone here (well before this post).

Due to a lot of escrow requests, I would like to remind everyone that there is a fee. Currently, I cannot help escrow trades currency exchange transactions unless the parties are willing to pay the 1% (min. 0.01 BTC) fee."
[10/11/2017 5:24:55 PM] live:limegp: if that's true and I'm wrong
[10/11/2017 5:24:57 PM] live:limegp: I will cover it
[10/11/2017 5:25:10 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay
[10/11/2017 5:25:40 PM] Quentin Thornton: Where are you seeing his automatic email system
[10/11/2017 5:26:02 PM] live:limegp: i used it before ?
[10/11/2017 5:26:11 PM] live:limegp: that's why people posting their emails because they got it via email ?
[10/11/2017 5:26:14 PM] live:limegp: his email is public on his thread ?
[10/11/2017 5:26:19 PM] live:limegp: that's why there is automatic system when he's not on
[10/11/2017 5:26:56 PM] Quentin Thornton: still don't see it. Will you point me to it please?
[10/11/2017 5:27:16 PM] live:limegp: once you require escrow posting your email you will receive it via email?
[10/11/2017 5:27:52 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay, so I post want I want him to escrow, and I list my email at the bottom?
[10/11/2017 5:28:19 PM] live:limegp: yes like everyone do who wants to use the automatic email system
[10/11/2017 5:28:30 PM] live:limegp: you should receive automated email from his email in 5-10 mins
[10/11/2017 5:28:32 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay
[10/11/2017 5:28:35 PM] live:limegp: his email is also noted on his thread
[10/11/2017 5:30:04 PM] Quentin Thornton: Okay, well I just listed it. Tell me if I need to change anything
[10/11/2017 5:30:58 PM] live:limegp: I'm not sure what else than your email and requesting escow you should post
[10/11/2017 5:31:15 PM] live:limegp: but you should receive automatic email
[10/11/2017 5:31:30 PM] live:limegp: and the email should be from monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com
[10/11/2017 5:31:38 PM] live:limegp: as it stated on his thread
[10/11/2017 5:32:55 PM] Quentin Thornton: okay
[10/11/2017 5:34:11 PM] live:limegp: let me know when you received email.
[10/11/2017 5:34:20 PM] live:limegp: it may be in the spambox if u have some email protection
[10/11/2017 5:35:26 PM] Quentin Thornton: Now that I think of it, that is very suspicious. Especially since you're paying the "fees"
[10/11/2017 5:35:42 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm going to contact monbux in case I'm mistake
[10/11/2017 5:35:45 PM] live:limegp: what is suspicious ?
[10/11/2017 5:35:53 PM] Quentin Thornton: but I think I see what you're doing
[10/11/2017 5:36:07 PM] live:limegp: you see what I'm doing ? yeah I'm trying to use escrow and not being scammed
[10/11/2017 5:36:13 PM] live:limegp: and you are the one who just act like a scammer
[10/11/2017 5:36:16 PM] live:limegp: soon as you see escrow
[10/11/2017 5:36:21 PM] live:limegp: that's so funny
[10/11/2017 5:37:08 PM] live:limegp: I'm pretty sure there is no fee
[10/11/2017 5:37:11 PM] live:limegp: that's why i agree paying it
[10/11/2017 5:37:14 PM] live:limegp: because there is no fee
[10/11/2017 5:37:18 PM] live:limegp: mr failed scammer
[10/11/2017 5:37:21 PM] live:limegp: you can't scam me with escrow mate
[10/11/2017 5:37:27 PM] live:limegp: don't even try
[10/11/2017 5:37:44 PM] Quentin Thornton: Just turn it back around on me. Dude I'm marking your account, unless you tell me right now, if I contact monbux he'll tell me he really sent this email
[10/11/2017 5:38:00 PM] Quentin Thornton: I have to say that was very clever anyway
[10/11/2017 5:38:04 PM] live:limegp: i don't believe anyone else can send you email from his
[10/11/2017 5:38:11 PM] live:limegp: but if you trying to pull your failed scam i can mark your account also
[10/11/2017 5:38:24 PM] live:limegp: i have to say your way to get off is not really smart
[10/11/2017 5:38:43 PM] Quentin Thornton: I don't care. It's a newbie account. And besides, I can actually pull a real scam accusation with all this evidence
[10/11/2017 5:38:58 PM] Quentin Thornton: "Oh I'll pay for the fees if there are any"
[10/11/2017 5:39:04 PM] live:limegp: yep i will
[10/11/2017 5:39:07 PM] live:limegp: because there is none
[10/11/2017 5:39:08 PM] Quentin Thornton: "his automatic escrow email"
[10/11/2017 5:39:22 PM] live:limegp: and go ahead and pull real scam accusation
[10/11/2017 5:39:28 PM] live:limegp: lets laugh
[10/11/2017 5:39:32 PM] Quentin Thornton: "You never used his automatic escrow before??!!?"
[10/11/2017 5:39:59 PM] live:limegp: obviously you didnt
[10/11/2017 5:40:10 PM] live:limegp: its funny how you act now when there is escrow to secure the trade :D
[10/11/2017 5:40:14 PM] live:limegp: now i got why u went afk all the time
[10/11/2017 5:40:14 PM] Quentin Thornton: I'm actually sorry this couldn't work out.
[10/11/2017 5:40:26 PM] Quentin Thornton: I really wanted to trade honestly
[10/11/2017 5:40:45 PM] Quentin Thornton: You could make an honest living not scamming people, and actually trading bitcoin
[10/11/2017 5:40:51 PM] live:limegp: u are the one scamming
[10/11/2017 5:40:55 PM] Quentin Thornton: I mean, I was going to give you a 20% markup!
[10/11/2017 5:41:17 PM] live:limegp: i mean i was going to buy ur cards daily
[10/11/2017 5:41:21 PM] live:limegp: but soon as you see escrow
[10/11/2017 5:41:26 PM] live:limegp: you start with the makeup story
[10/11/2017 5:41:49 PM] Quentin Thornton: You should go invest in a couple bitcoin and start trading people, not scamming. It's actually really sad. These are my savings and you tried to rip me off
[10/11/2017 5:42:03 PM] live:limegp: dude why u keep acting
[10/11/2017 5:42:07 PM] live:limegp: you are the one scamming
[10/11/2017 5:42:23 PM] Quentin Thornton: Just keep saying that buddy. I'm making the scam accusation right now
[10/11/2017 5:42:31 PM] live:limegp: oh go ahead
[10/11/2017 5:42:33 PM] live:limegp: let me laugh

[johntrichfield]

The only pm i exchanged with this guy was a question about his sales and how someone can contact him.

Then let's contact Monbux to see if it's true. Also, how did the emailer know we were exhanging .08 btc? In my post I said .085 btc, not .08. The only way they'd know this we were exchanging .08 btc, is if they were working with you, or if you are him.

[Danos]

I have few questions and i can't wait your answers!
Who the hell is freedomose and how he is connected with me? How's that me but not just a random guy who saw your email on monbux thread ?
What is that skype conversation and who is limegp ? How he's connected with me, or if you saying that's me somehow, where this skype is noted as mine or me saying anywhere you can contact me on it or anything like that?
As i read your claim that limegp is me, do you mind show us how did you contact me with some random skype name ?
Also do you think if i were going to do anything wrong using someone famous name, i won't do research especially when i can read and see monbox email noted on his thread ?
Your claims and "proofs" making me laugh...
They make no sense and no connection at all.
In fact, if there was "automatic system" as the guy from the skype claim, how can someone with different email can claim that he already had anything from me (god knows how he contacted me so fast and received coins + confirmation from network) ?
Instead of pointing that finger with your blind eyes, why don't you just start to think for a minute and realize that some random guys just trying to scam you.
Also, i don't see a single evidence here against me, because you did not post anything against me.
You posted once again some "skype conversation" notepad written, with some random (retard) if i can call him like that who trying to rob you + another not really smart retard sending you email right after you posted yours public claiming impossible things.
If i were you... i would double check everything, feel ashamed and next time when you try to point someone.... Think....
I take your "utmost apologies" because im not an asshole.

Edit: I don't know you were going to trade 0.001 or 0.085 or 0.01541 btc because you never talk with me... I hope you will understand that soon as possible.
Not sure who you think that guy "limegp" on skype is, but for 1001% its not me.
Moderator/Administrator is more than welcome to check my ip/country and match it what that retarded scamming skype (if that's not you, or that chat actually exists because you copy/paste something can be written on notepad).
Once again... think before write...
Neither monbux or me have contacted you, and you were dealing with random scammers around which is not anything new for the forum.

[johntrichfield]

You asked for my skype, of course it was you through pm. Besides, how would anyone else know it? I've never given it out to anyone else before. Jk, but only to a select few, and I've never posted it anywhere public.

Also, you haven't answered my last question. If I contact Monbux, will he say he's been in contact with you?

edit: you basically proved to me now, 100%, you're a scammer, by saying that it wasn't you on skype this whole time.

[Danos]

You asked for my skype, of course it was you through pm. Besides, how would anyone else know it? I've never given it out to anyone else before. Jk, but only to a select few, and I've never posted it anywhere public.

Also, you haven't answered my last question. If I contact Monbux, will he say he's been in contact with you?

Dude, do you realize i ask for your skype and you posted some email, the same email you posted on the escrow thread, the same email you are using with another 12312312 users you trying to deal with your sales?
Or im the only one you gaved your contact details consider your desperate search of getting bitcoins for your amazon.. Cmon..
Monbux cannot say he's been in contact me with me, because you were never in contact with me to agree using any escrow. Monbux, or anyone else from the official list..
And why you even trying to connect monbux consider i never requested him, i never was in contact/chat with you, and i never agreed on buying/dealing with you with or without escrow?
Or you still keeping your claims that email or skype is mine ? Because i have registered email on my profile, and even the domain of it its not even close to the one you posted.
It is impossible to contact me with any of those scamming jerks trying to rob you, because i don't know and i don't give a fuck who they are.
I believe you are confused.
Why don't you just take my advice, check everything again, double think and realize whats going on and then post.

Edit: To answer your edit.
Do you mind show me and us (the community) how this skype is connected with me ?
Where did i noted it, where did i say that's my skype?
I hope you can read above im more than willing to cooperate with anyone who like to match my IP with the retard using that skype.
Im pretty sure he won't be even in the same country, because the scammers are not really smart.
You are just mad to some random scammer and pointing my name just because i ask for your contact details days ago which were posted public and which you used to give to everyone else who you were trying to make deal with ?
Dude...
Now everything is transparent for me... Open your eyes!

[johntrichfield]

ahha! You’ve already admitted the person on skype was a scammer. All I’ve got to do is prove it was you. And I can! The email I use here is different than the one I sent you by pm! I have never shared this email with anyone else on this forum, and I've never posted it publicly. I've only given it to a select few So tell me, if you weren't the person talking to me on skype, how did that person get my skype address?

Of course, you're never going to admit you were trying to scam me, but I think I have provided enough evidence, so I'm done with this thread. Although, if anyone would like to see proof of my skype address, and my pm to Danos, go a head and pm me. I don't want to post it out in public where everyone can see it.

[Danos]

ahha! You’ve already admitted the person on skype was a scammer. All I’ve got to do is prove it was you. And I can! The email I use here is different than the one I sent you by pm! I have never shared this email with anyone else on this forum, and I've never posted it publicly. I've only given it to a select few So tell me, if you weren't the person talking to me on skype, how did that person get my skype address?

Of course, you're never going to admit you were trying to scam me, but I think I have provided enough evidence, so I'm done with this thread. Although, if anyone would like to see proof of my skype address, and my pm to Danos, go a head and pm me. I don't want to post it out in public where everyone can see it.

"I've only given it to a select few"
I was just guessing what and where you were giving but now that giving me answers.
So of that selected few im the one trying to do something wrong against you?
And you ignoring my will of cooperate to show how retarded you are and prove im not anyone of the guys/people you saying?
Blind soul.
No one give a fuck about your skype or the scammers skype.
This thread is against me.
Show us proof hows that my skype and how im connected with it.
Or you are just underage confused bully with notepad story's based on no proofs.

Edit: If any of you, Moderators/Admins or anyone who have access to people inbox, please check this retarded OP inbox, and mine (i never deleted any of my messages).
And explain him how stupid he is.
You provided enough evidences that some retards trying to scam you, but consider that thread is against me, me and the community still waiting the evidences against me.
If you don't have any, apologize and fuck off.
If you going to blame randomly for no reason without proofs, go chose someone else from those "select few" and open thread against him.

[johntrichfield]

You know what? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and remove my trust rating. I admit there's the slight chance it wasn't you, and I deeply apologize if it wasn't.

[Danos]

You know what? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and remove my trust rating. I admit there's the slight chance it wasn't you, and I deeply apologize if it wasn't.

I removed yours also, i hope you don't mind change the tittle of the thread and close it because it makes me look like something im not.

[Laravel]

Good to know that both of you decided to end this in a peaceful way. What important is, no one got been robbed on this deal, right?

I agree with Danos, you probably should change or remove his/her name on the topic title, then closed the thread for good and to avoid anyone in bumping this again. Problem solved! Good luck!!