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October 05, 2017, 08:58:50 AM
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Upto a point it can be proved as worthy but after that point no math can help you in winning however you can get lucky upto a point but no chance to win forever.
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October 05, 2017, 04:14:55 PM
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Upto a point it can be proved as worthy but after that point no math can help you in winning however you can get lucky upto a point but no chance to win forever.

What point are you pointing to exactly? I don't think there is such a thing. In gambling if you have a working method that involves math then that will likely help you out, especially if you are gambling in the sports books available to you. Since in sports books there is a chance to win or lose , you can improve these chances if you used math to totally imprve your chances of winning any game.
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October 05, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
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You can significantly increase your chances of winning at the gambling if you know exactly which slot to play, how much to bet on it and what tactics to use. All players that are playing at any online casino Netent are on the same servers. The slots of the Swedish developer behave the same as when playing for real money, like in free play mode, and it can be useful. We already wrote about it in this article.
Summing up the most important parts:
-You can filter the profitable slots by testing the video slots in free play mode.
-You will know exactly, how many coins to bet and what the bet rate of a slot is.
-You'll know when to stop playing.


We cant, there is no ways to increase winning chance on slots game. Testing in free play mode wont give you similar result when you play on real mode, it is just a delusion imo. Usually you'll get nice result on free play mode and you will get the opposite on real mode. It is a common thing to make players attracted to play with real money.
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October 05, 2017, 05:03:41 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Yes ,maybe maths can help but not all the time. Albert Einstein supposedly once said: 'No one can win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking.' Although I wouldn't normally question Einstein, this statement isn't true.  In fact, you can use Einstein's specialist subject, physics, to help you win. Or you can find a biased wheel that makes some numbers more likely to come up.
What Einstein actually meant was that there is no mathematical trick that can help you win at roulette.
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October 05, 2017, 05:14:58 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Yes ,maybe maths can help but not all the time. Albert Einstein supposedly once said: 'No one can win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking.' Although I wouldn't normally question Einstein, this statement isn't true.  In fact, you can use Einstein's specialist subject, physics, to help you win. Or you can find a biased wheel that makes some numbers more likely to come up.
What Einstein actually meant was that there is no mathematical trick that can help you win at roulette.


All the mathematical strategies finally depend on our luck. Especially in casino games while choosing any number if we do any calculations, our result depends on our luck. I am not saying maths will not work in gambling, but it only works for experts and those who are born to become a gambler. Many people use many tricks to win money in gambling and in that this maths also one type of strategy.
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October 05, 2017, 05:48:08 PM
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Math helps me when my balance is unlimited. Basically, gambling depends on nature and desire of gambler itself. If want rich instant, he wants to look for huge profits but never have target on what's meaning 'huge'.
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October 05, 2017, 05:59:39 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Yes ,maybe maths can help but not all the time. Albert Einstein supposedly once said: 'No one can win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking.' Although I wouldn't normally question Einstein, this statement isn't true.  In fact, you can use Einstein's specialist subject, physics, to help you win. Or you can find a biased wheel that makes some numbers more likely to come up.
What Einstein actually meant was that there is no mathematical trick that can help you win at roulette.


All the mathematical strategies finally depend on our luck. Especially in casino games while choosing any number if we do any calculations, our result depends on our luck. I am not saying maths will not work in gambling, but it only works for experts and those who are born to become a gambler. Many people use many tricks to win money in gambling and in that this maths also one type of strategy.
Using math would somehow be effective but only if luck is together with it which we can able to increase the probability of winning but this thing isnt sustainable for longer runs and cant really be relied.
There are people who do really born to be a gambler but actually this kind of techniques or strat do only works in some games.

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October 05, 2017, 07:39:17 PM
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Math helps me when my balance is unlimited. Basically, gambling depends on nature and desire of gambler itself. If want rich instant, he wants to look for huge profits but never have target on what's meaning 'huge'.
I haven’t been to gambling till now but what I had learnt and come to know about it, it is just a wastage. But on other hand if you ask about mathematics then what I feel is, yeah there would be some better impact of mathematics. Reason is, the analysis you make in your mind keeping all the scenarios in account, so yeah mathematics can help you in this regard.
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October 05, 2017, 09:26:13 PM
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Yes, I think so. Most of the gambling I knew is all about numbers. When one thing has a number, it's already connected in mathematics. Some is depends their strategy by counting numbers and tgat's what I did sometimes.
You need to analyze in order to make a good bet and when doing it you need to be good in math.
It's true that it's all numbers, however you have to ensure you will be able to effectively execute your plan, sometimes when we are too weak it leads us to doing the opposite of our analyses, so still we need to be careful and to succeed requires all factors that are vital to be implemented well.

If it were so it would be possible to program a bot with a winning strategy and since bot can't be weak, it's a bot after all, it has no human weaknesses, the thing would be winning all the time. However, we all know that there's no such bot.

When we are losing, the problem is not that we are not following our strategies, but rather that no strategy is perfect enough to be a winning one all the time.
Correct if there was a winning strategy, we will be using it and there wont be casinos or they will change the rules so that strategy does not work anymore or is more difficult, that is what happened with card counting at first casinos only used one deck and then that strategy appeared and since then they use 4 up to 10 decks of cards.
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October 05, 2017, 10:05:31 PM
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Upto a point it can be proved as worthy but after that point no math can help you in winning however you can get lucky upto a point but no chance to win forever.

What point are you pointing to exactly? I don't think there is such a thing. In gambling if you have a working method that involves math then that will likely help you out, especially if you are gambling in the sports books available to you. Since in sports books there is a chance to win or lose , you can improve these chances if you used math to totally imprve your chances of winning any game.

True Smiley, and gambling actually involved math, so Math really hels.  People think that the only way to win in gambling is being "lucky" but I can say they are partly correct if luck really exisit.  The thing that signals that you win is when you quit with the won amount in your money.  Math helps in this.  Just by doing basic math, if you checked that you  are in a positive then quit Smiley  By doing so, you just add the total money less the bankroll.  Isn't that math?  Grin
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October 05, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
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Gambling is hard to predict and even you'll learn different methods, including Math techniques, strategies and other stuffs there's nothing that lasts a life time on this. In types of control, the only thing that I can think of that Math will help us in gambling is by managing but not with winning. Managing your money, yes there's a help on it because you are controlling yourself not to gamble in rage.

 
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October 06, 2017, 09:50:55 PM
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You can significantly increase your chances of winning at the gambling if you know exactly which slot to play, how much to bet on it and what tactics to use. All players that are playing at any online casino Netent are on the same servers. The slots of the Swedish developer behave the same as when playing for real money, like in free play mode, and it can be useful. We already wrote about it in this article.
Summing up the most important parts:
-You can filter the profitable slots by testing the video slots in free play mode.
-You will know exactly, how many coins to bet and what the bet rate of a slot is.
-You'll know when to stop playing.


Sorry, but what is this exactly? Are trying to say that it is possible to calculate which slots are better to play and what bets should be made? Like it was told here million times, make money for yourself then. Why share this information? Become a millionaire and then start a charity if you want to be a good guy. Smiley
It is similar to all of those people selling money making methods, if your money methods worked you will not be selling them, but it is obvious why they are selling their methods of making money since their method is to sell useless money making methods to people that should know better.
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October 07, 2017, 09:28:03 AM
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Definitely mathematics can help to win in gambling, and here we're talking about statistics and probabilities that are directly related to those games.
Since all gambling games are based on these two sciences in order to guarantee the gain for the owner, however it is necessary to mention that this science is not easy to master at all.
Statistics and probability cannot help us becoming the winner of a dice game or a slot game. It cannot bless a roulette player with victory every time or even most of the time but some simple operators can help us in staying safe by calculating the total loss. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.
I also have the same view as yours. I think that being good at Math is not really helpful to you in the game of gambling.

It is entirely dependent upon the luck of a person or somewhat upon the experience that what he might have got through playing it on daily basis or so. If a person is not good at math at all, even then he could make up a win through his present mindedness and skills.
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October 07, 2017, 01:57:14 PM
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Definitely mathematics can help to win in gambling, and here we're talking about statistics and probabilities that are directly related to those games.
Since all gambling games are based on these two sciences in order to guarantee the gain for the owner, however it is necessary to mention that this science is not easy to master at all.
Statistics and probability cannot help us becoming the winner of a dice game or a slot game. It cannot bless a roulette player with victory every time or even most of the time but some simple operators can help us in staying safe by calculating the total loss. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.
I also have the same view as yours. I think that being good at Math is not really helpful to you in the game of gambling.

It is entirely dependent upon the luck of a person or somewhat upon the experience that what he might have got through playing it on daily basis or so. If a person is not good at math at all, even then he could make up a win through his present mindedness and skills.

Well there's really no definitive answer to the question because gambling has several forms and mathematical analysis can make a difference depending on what game you're playing.

 
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October 07, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
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If people were able to understand that when you have 50% chance you have that for every bet no matter how many bets or how many reds in a row you got, no one would play anymore.  If you get black black, the chances of getting another black are the same as when you started yet there are still a lot of people who think that waiting for a streak of blacks and betting on red will make them win.
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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of  reason to block your withdrawn

 
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October 07, 2017, 09:17:28 PM
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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of  reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.
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October 07, 2017, 09:49:48 PM
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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of  reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

   You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
   I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
   Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
   If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?



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October 08, 2017, 10:35:27 AM
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There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble  
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.
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October 08, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of  reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

   You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
   I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
   Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
   If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?
But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.
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