Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[barbara44]

I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player. 

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.

If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.

[crwth]

I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player. 

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.

If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.

If you know something about probability, then you can never predict something a hundred percent, unless you are cheating. If that happens and you are really lucky that you predicted every bet that you have, then like you said, it would make you rich, but probably not the richest person. If they cheat on you, then that's something sketchy about it and you can never really check it right away.

[boogiemann]

Yes, Math can help you in betting. Bookmakers use different parameters when setting up odds and if you have some good info and know probability you can spot value and longterm be in profit.

[Wall-ET]

I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player. 

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.

If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.

Look I said you will win a lotto (6 of 49) if you place all ~14mil combinations. 100% chance of hitting the JP. the problem is that the JP is smaller then the money you will put into the bet, so you will lose money, but you will hit the JP. and there is no luck in the world that will and can change this outcome. This is pure math.
You calculate and you see, to have a 100% chance of hitting the JP you need ~14mil tix, then you see how much is 1 tix and if the JP is bigger you will make money, if not you lose money hitting the JP.
But here no luck can change the outcome...
That was my point. no matter how lucky or unlucky you are you can hit the JP using math, but the question is will it be worth it?
most casinos use math to calculate this and to know what JP to put, so they never lose money.
That is why it is hard to beat real casino if you play there, as they have modified the rules, so they allays win.
And again this is all math and no luck. Else it will mean the casino owners can be only people who are lucky and if you not lucky you never can be casino owner, as there is no casino owner that have gone broke (from running casino properly).

[michkima]

I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player. 

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.

Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.

If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.

Look I said you will win a lotto (6 of 49) if you place all ~14mil combinations. 100% chance of hitting the JP. the problem is that the JP is smaller then the money you will put into the bet, so you will lose money, but you will hit the JP. and there is no luck in the world that will and can change this outcome. This is pure math.
You calculate and you see, to have a 100% chance of hitting the JP you need ~14mil tix, then you see how much is 1 tix and if the JP is bigger you will make money, if not you lose money hitting the JP.
But here no luck can change the outcome...
That was my point. no matter how lucky or unlucky you are you can hit the JP using math, but the question is will it be worth it?
most casinos use math to calculate this and to know what JP to put, so they never lose money.
That is why it is hard to beat real casino if you play there, as they have modified the rules, so they allays win.
And again this is all math and no luck. Else it will mean the casino owners can be only people who are lucky and if you not lucky you never can be casino owner, as there is no casino owner that have gone broke (from running casino properly).

Though that is quite different from gambling itself. The fact is in lotto it is indeed possible to hit the numbers no matter what if you placed a bet on all possible combinations. But usually it would never be worth it to be on all those combinations as it would take more money to do so than what you will win, so no one ever does do it. This is different in games like dice or anything else, since you cannot place a bet on all numbers and you cannot do any math to actually win the game.

[n691309]

of course maths can help in gambling, I would never gamble on something that has a very bad return on investment, for example 10% chance to win 5x is super bad. Thats why I love sports betting and poker because you can avoid bad deals

Mathematics always help in the thing that maintains the logical behavior throughout the process. Like here in games, you are dealing with many mathematical terms and percentages and profit loses percentages but yes, luck is more effective here. Even mathematics can’t help you if you are on your bad day. Things are not fine in this game so better is to leave this and enjoy the life.

[Patatas]

of course maths can help in gambling, I would never gamble on something that has a very bad return on investment, for example 10% chance to win 5x is super bad. Thats why I love sports betting and poker because you can avoid bad deals

Mathematics always help in the thing that maintains the logical behavior throughout the process. Like here in games, you are dealing with many mathematical terms and percentages and profit loses percentages but yes, luck is more effective here. Even mathematics can’t help you if you are on your bad day. Things are not fine in this game so better is to leave this and enjoy the life.

Well,in real life lotteries it does work it.
Know the story of the mathematician who figured out the algorithm of a national lottery and ended up winning it twice ? Proves math can be used to beat up the provable fair systems.Also just for your information,generation of random numbers depends on the CPU power and lot of other computational theories. Truly,there comes a point where system fails and the number generation will fallback in a pattern that will be repetitive.It also depends on the programming language used to generate the numbers..

[julzcoinbit]

Indeed for gambling we have lots of confusion in it, because it is in gambling we also sometimes confused as to whether that was done right or wrong. But indeed to be able to get many of the advantages we also need calculations i.e. math, because every gambling also have the techniques or strategies so that they can get the victory. If it does not we do or we just let go about what we do, then the results will be obtained as just an unfortunate thing.

The fact is that in most cases, those people who play gambling and who met me, are not more than lucky in this matter. But I've heard a lot of stories about the fact that it is the math experts who are good players. But this was still hoped for by anyone.

Being good at math is an advantage when you're involved in gambling. Especially playing cards because you need to calculate and analyze what was already thrown away. But in other cases like playing dice and roulette it does not require math only lucky is your hope.

In gambling being good in math is not necessary as long as you know the basic mathematics computations. I don't think if you have time to compute the probable of your bet to win. Its just waste your time, all of it will depends on your luck. Expertise in math in gambling is just the same to those who are not good in math, even if they try to computer the probabilty and statistics of every game still the percentage to win is less beacuse in the end it will depends on your fortune.

You're correct mate , expertise in math is not necessary , all the possibilities outcome will depends on our luck. I can't imagine betting in a game you will computing first in order to win its time consuming. Most in gambling can have two possible outcome either win or lose, which usaully 50:50 but still depends the kind of game you try to play like dice which having a less percetage to win having 6 faces.

In addition, mathematics is a broad subject that can compute anything which can relates on the reality having thousands of formulas and theories but during in gambling only our luck can tell if we are lucky enough or not.

[raven7886]

I thought it was not about if  your a mathatician but based on my experience those gamblers who are expert are good in their math subject ,but I know it depends on luck because we have no statistical explanation when we play gambling.It a luck when you are winning on it and no skills to learn because we not know what happen in a game.

You have said it all bro! It is just pure luck and I wonder what people always think when they feel they could just draw up a strategy to always make them win in gambling. The best form of mathematics that would have helped in gambling is probability, since gambling anyway, is a game of chance.

After all, the thing is, even with the probability, the answer you get is either this or not, and you may not even be lucky enough even when your chances of winning were still high.

[Patatas]

You have said it all bro! It is just pure luck and I wonder what people always think when they feel they could just draw up a strategy to always make them win in gambling. The best form of mathematics that would have helped in gambling is probability, since gambling anyway, is a game of chance.

What the fuck are you talking about ? The discussion is about math being used to beat the gambling odds,don't know where have you dragged 'luck' into this.In the world of numbers,you brought a an uninvited guest to the table.

After all, the thing is, even with the probability, the answer you get is either this or not, and you may not even be lucky enough even when your chances of winning were still high.

Maths is what probability is calculation is,If one can successfully do it,they bring 'luck' with them according to you?

[Ebenezer559]

LUCK can be on your side not maths

[Zero_Cloo]

If you're good enough at math you can win consistently at gambling. Not at all gambling - a big part of what the math is there for is to make sure you're always in profitable situations. It will never magically make you win at roulette. But it will let you identify the games and situations you can win at, and if you stick to them you will make money in the long term.

Not really. Math cannot change the fact that most gambling games are probability based only and cannot really be affected by anything else. Once you spun the wheel there is no other thing you can do about it. It will be a win or a lose no matter if you are a mathematical genius. The only thing you will have if you use math is that you will realize that it can't help and that you know what are the chances you will win or lose in one game or in the long run.

Bolded is exactly where you have it, you just don't know. You have to do the math before you decide whether or not to spin the wheel.

If you understand a game, and its conditions, mathematically, then you can make good decisions to only play in +ev situations and maximize your bankroll growth and in the long term you will make money.

[crypto1010]

Honestly if we are going to say math will help then this is as good as saying gambling is for intellects which isn't true, math might give you the edge but won't guarantee you that you will register more wins than the guy not applying math to play because gambling is a game of luck...the earlier we accept this fact the safer we are from losing more money.

[moooonu]

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

[gabmen]

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

[megynacuna]

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

Well maths can help your strategy in games if you ever get one but it will not single handedly make you win games because there is more  to gambling than numbers and since maths deals with numbers and its manipulations then it makes no sense to rely on it to win games.

[01asd]

Honestly if we are going to say math will help then this is as good as saying gambling is for intellects which isn't true, math might give you the edge but won't guarantee you that you will register more wins than the guy not applying math to play because gambling is a game of luck...the earlier we accept this fact the safer we are from losing more money.

For some people, they think poker needs some special mathematical formulas to manipulate the existing system. But it can not be done alone and need a genius to do it. That means, not everyone can win gambling poker and it needs someone with special abilities. But that's just the theory from me, I never experienced or saw directly. Maybe for some gambling it does need a mathematical formula, but I guess that's almost impossible to do. If you want to know, you have to learn and memorize things. But rather than memorizing the way to play gambling, why not learn another business or another job that is more comfortable, safe, and risk free?

[Ziskinberg]

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

Well maths can help your strategy in games if you ever get one but it will not single handedly make you win games because there is more  to gambling than numbers and since maths deals with numbers and its manipulations then it makes no sense to rely on it to win games.

If only being good in math is the only way to win then for sure there are a lot of gamblers who are already exploiting the gambling sites now, the thing is we have to deal with the reality which we also need to manage our emotion, mind and emotion should be both stable in order for us to win and be a successful gambler even in the long run.

[SirLancelot]

I thought it was not about if  your a mathatician but based on my experience those gamblers who are expert are good in their math subject ,but I know it depends on luck because we have no statistical explanation when we play gambling.It a luck when you are winning on it and no skills to learn because we not know what happen in a game.

Indeed, gambling is a game which is totally dependent on luck and we should understand that no mathematician is going to win the bet just because of his good command on numbers. Gambling is the thing which is very unpredictable and we never know which is going to happen next in the game. Gambling is a game which is just going to make you rich when your luck is in your favor, otherwise you will lose.

[katinko]

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.