Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[Hhampuz]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Only in a real life roulette, how you may ask? The game of roulette is one of those games that seems unbeatable but in fact it was the first gambling game ever beaten, the way to do it is to watch tens of thousands of spins in the same roulette and keep track of them and then calculate the real odds a number appears if the real probabilities are higher than the theoretical ones and are above the house edge then the only thing you need to do on the roulette is to bet on those numbers over and over again.

This may be true but not a lot of casinos will let you stick around to count these 10,000 spins, and take note of them as well. You also have to consider the fact that you do not have all the time in the world to place your bets after each spin is finished. So The question then would be: Is it really worth it, lol.

[piloder]

I haven't gone through full article on that link but I can say that no I don't believe math can help us win in gambling and same goes for roulette.

I haven't seen any Math's processor who is making good money from gambling by utilizing his math knowledge and sophisticated calculations.  

[cotton ball]

I am inspired in hollywood movies with poker themes, math is very effective for card speculation that has arisen, we just need to think about the possibility of what cards we will / opponents get, this is very fun. In sports betting also applies equally because predictions from previous matches or player conditions can be calculated in detail with fitness percentage and potential win.

[adzino]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Don't think math can help you win on any traditional casino. The casino makes sure that you are not able to use any tricks such as counting cards and take any kind of advantage.

. I've read some in the internet saying they won lottery by using Math

I guess he just used the probability to win the lottery. If he some how knew how many tickets each user had you will be able to calculate your win percentage based on number of tickets you have.

[NorrisK]

Maths can't help you win in gambling, but it can help you understand what the odds are that your are playing with.

It also helps you understand the long term effect of gambling instead of simply being focussed on the short term outcome.

The math part isn't all that hard actually, if you take a bit of time anyone can learn it.

[serjent05]

I haven't gone through full article on that link but I can say that no I don't believe math can help us win in gambling and same goes for roulette.

I haven't seen any Math's processor who is making good money from gambling by utilizing his math knowledge and sophisticated calculations.  

the problem with this processor is that it is not in sync of the internal setup of the game. It is like programs, or a mother board and processor, you cannot fit in a processor to a mother board if it does not have the same pin.  So I am saying that even though math can really help us to win in gambling if the factors and variables of the math' processor is different from the internal setup, it will not give us an accurate result.

[eaLiTy]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

If you think that maths could help you win ,then it is good to go as long as you are winning,but in reality it wont help much but if you are good in probability then you might make some calculations and see how it goes but you cannot guarantee than it will help you break the code and keep on winning
but you must remember than roulette is random and one result wont affect the odds of other results.

 

[yoseph]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I heard that some people are able to count cards at casino, I don't know how exactly it is done but it involves a lot of probability and permutation, that takes a lot of calculation and i don't know if the human mind is able to do all those in a short number of time.

[BlockEye]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I heard that some people are able to count cards at casino, I don't know how exactly it is done but it involves a lot of probability and permutation, that takes a lot of calculation and i don't know if the human mind is able to do all those in a short number of time.

What do you mean by counting cards? I can do that also.  But there are some people on casino especially banker are already memorize how to shuffle and distribute cards in their own advantage, Sometimes they keep cards on their sleeves. Can you you please elaborate what kind of counting cards trick this was?

[Bitfort]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I heard that some people are able to count cards at casino, I don't know how exactly it is done but it involves a lot of probability and permutation, that takes a lot of calculation and i don't know if the human mind is able to do all those in a short number of time.

What do you mean by counting cards? I can do that also.   But there are some people on casino especially banker are already memorize how to shuffle and distribute cards in their own advantage, Sometimes they keep cards on their sleeves. Can you you please elaborate what kind of counting cards trick this was?

Everybody can count cards. But this is more about remembering what cards have been already played ( giving you chances to guess which cards will be played next).
Although card counting is sort of skill it's treated as cheating.

There is lot of counting strategies. For details see e.g. http://www.gamblingonline.com/blackjack/strategy/card-counting/

[Hexah]

I'm not an expert in Math but for me if it will be discussed in a Math Wizard or genius I think they will know the answer about that one. In my point of view I think it is possible because from what I see in Rain Man movie and it is a true life story about a  genius in math and he really win in gambling and I think it maybe the same that it can help to win in some gamble games. This is a good question hoping that we can get an answer here in forum if there are math geniuses around.

[bhadz]

Haha definitely will help you to prove nothing that in gambling with luck based games are going to give negative output for a longer time. And in games that you have to analyze Mathematics can help you to understand and analyze those games, situational processes and other things in gambling. But talking about Math in roulettes and other the same games, there's no way for us to win to those games with analysis.

You are obviously correct that maths cannot negate the effect of the house edge and nobody will ever devise a mathematical system that will. I still think that maths can help you, understanding and calculating the probability of various outcomes can lead to better decision-making. Also using maths for risk management will help preserve your bankroll. In the end applying maths won't make you win but it will make your money last longer.

Math is the source of random algo used to get the result on a probability game like dice. Therefore​ it can be beat by means of Math too. This is still impossible for now but in the future it can be crack by some genius gamblers that want to win. There are some experements ongoing on how to gain on probabilty base game.

You have the point about algo's but the sad fact today is no one is able to crack it. Still it's a random basis that has been computed but no one can get it. But I also believe that there will be the day when a genius gambler will find it out and will expose the strategy and this will be the time that the casino's are going to upgrade and improve their scripts as this will surely kill their business if it happens.

[Bluestreet]

I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.

[xuan87]

I ever saw a film that math could be used to win in blackjack game, but that is the physical casino game, I think in online game it doesn't help you to win the game, but it can help to prevent more lost and it can help you to calculate the probability in dice game

[mace15]

I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.

I haven't heard Math could really help in winning in gambling. Actually it's a pure of luck and strategy in winning the game. Because weather we involved Math it really depends whats your move in the game.

[LuanX3]

I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.

I haven't heard Math could really help in winning in gambling. Actually it's a pure of luck and strategy in winning the game. Because weather we involved Math it really depends whats your move in the game.

Depends on the game though. Math can help you when you are playing games like poker and sports books. There math would be useful because it can influence the chances of you winning in those games if you try and analyze the game using math. It can help but I think it really depends on the game you are playing with. That's just how gambling is for us.

[Bitinity]

I ever saw a film that math could be used to win in blackjack game, but that is the physical casino game, I think in online game it doesn't help you to win the game, but it can help to prevent more lost and it can help you to calculate the probability in dice game

Dice is not probability game, it is a pure luck based game where every single bet is independent. We cant calculate the outcome on dice game, no matter how smart you are in math/probability. Still luck is the only one who can help you to win on dice game.

[just_Alice]

Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage .

I would add "the more you play" the higher the probability of losing. Unfortunately for them some gamblers think it works the other way around and that's why, when they are losing, they bet more and more "to increase" the chance of winning. Thus normally they only lose more.

Math can help you to understand only one thing: you can win in gambling if you are lucky, but whatever you do, you can't increase the chance of winning.

Yeah. As a former gambling addict I can attest to this way of thinking too. I could lose several thousand $ in one night and think to myself "I'm due a win now, I've lost so much that the win HAS to come now on the next few bets". It is a never ending cycle of problems that can quickly spiral out of control. Luckily I've moved past that now and can control myself with limits set in place .

Indeed setting the limits is a crucial thing if you don't want gambling to destroy your life. I'm glad for you that you can control yourself and thus enjoy gambling without major losses. And that's where math can also be applied. I think we can afford losing up to 5% of what we make per month to gambling. Which means we can lose not more than 0.16% of our monthly wage per day.

[paul00]

I don't think that math actually works on gambling (roullete). I presume that it is more on statistics and anlalysis. Mathematics is about addition subtratraction etc. But what gambling needs is statistics.. The probability to win on  what you bet in each game..i guess you can also learn it on experience. Even  anlysis of each game is based on how the game has been rolling over time.

[jerowacik]

I don't think that math actually works on gambling (roullete). I presume that it is more on statistics and anlalysis. Mathematics is about addition subtratraction etc. But what gambling needs is statistics.. The probability to win on  what you bet in each game..i guess you can also learn it on experience. Even  anlysis of each game is based on how the game has been rolling over time.

math can not make us win the gambling game. gambling is a game that only relies on luck. if we want to win the gambling game then we must pray and hope. this is why gambling is called an uncertain game. and many people say that gambling is a game that has a very high risk.