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September 28, 2017, 06:39:25 AM
Last edit: September 28, 2017, 06:53:24 AM by Here4Trades
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Signature campaigns are made to advertise things such as projects,coins or services once people lost interest in bitcointalk may be the end of the campaigns and is unluckly happening ever. As Pharmacist always says, there are lot of shit posters and account farmers involved in the campaigns with all the new managers/scammers around making profit with their alts on campaigns something thatfor me is out of control right now.
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September 28, 2017, 07:14:20 AM
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If ALL the signature campaign ends. It just means that nobody wants to work or earn anymore. The purpose of the signature campaign is to promote something that sells something. If ALL of it ends at the same time it means that they are not interested in earning money anymore. Maybe all of them have won the lottery or something and they all want to retire and end the cycle of promotion in this fora. And retire with lots of money.
There's a shitpost made just for money, indicating that you have neither dignity (see hilarious's awesome picture) nor a brain in your skull.  I would love to see sig campaigns end, just for the comfort it would bring me knowing that the Philippines has to actually go work for a living.  It's too easy around here.  It's also less like a forum and more like some awful social welfare office.

What a fucking hypocrite! Everyone knows you are here for signature campaigns only. Look at your post history full of crap. What the f dude. You even state yourself that you have very little knowledge about Bitcoin in every other post. Leave and do not come back.
And do not even get me started on your Philippine comment, lil racist boy
Hell no I'm not going anywhere.  In addition,  your PMs are now blocked,  AND you got a nice, fresh neg for threatening me.   Feel better now?

I have written that I'm ignorant of the technicals of bitcoin, just as I'm ignorant of how the banking system works.  That's totally irrelevant and doesn't mean I can't use them.  And I'm not here to make money.   Nor can you argue that my English is anywhere near as bad as 99% of shitposters on bct.  You just don't like my opinions.  Well, that's tough shit, get over yourself.

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September 28, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
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Funny and true.  A hard problem to address fairly though.
If we were to be honest here, we would say that literally almost nothing is being done from the administration. Hilariousandco is alone, and badly in need of backup. Theymos still refuses to appoint a secondary global moderator. Policies are not being changed. Of course it is *hard to address* when you're doing nothing. Smiley

I think the forum is still doing pretty well.
It most certainly is not. Minus a small group of people familiar with technical, this place would easily hit a top ranking on a list of the worst communities of the internet when it comes to the quality of content. The average IQ, based off of responses, is probably <90.

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September 28, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
Last edit: September 28, 2017, 01:16:07 PM by hilariousandco
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A hard problem to address fairly though.

It's not that difficult and several solutions have already been suggested but met with complete silence. The easiest one to enforce would be if you start a signature campaign here and it's clear that you're just accepting hundreds to unlimited users without monitoring the quality of the content then you get a warning to clean your campaign up within a week and if you don't your account is banned, your thread(s) trashed and any user still carrying their signature will have it forcibly removed. This is what was meant to happen with the signature campaign guidelines but they're pointless when theymos won't enforce them. Signatures also need to be removed from rank/activity somehow to stop the ludicrous amounts of account farming that is going on and people literally having hundreds of accounts to milk signature campaigns dry. As long as you can easily join the dozens of crapcoin campaigns that pop up every month with hundreds of accounts you've easily farmed by shitposting then nothing is going to change and the content of the forum is just going to get worse daily because the more people realise they can get away with it.

what will happen if all signature campaigns end


The forum loses money by allowing signature campaigns here. Most businesses/projects don't bother buying ads when they can have their signatures plastered all over the forum for free as opposed to buying one tiny, barely noticeable ad slot.

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I think the forum is still doing pretty well.
Buying ad on the forums is still better than a signature. And they do not need to manage anything.



And it could be doing even better if signature campaigns were banned and replaced with forum adverts. The forum would also then be readable, you know, how it actually should be. And buying a forum advert isn't better. There's only one of them, they're barely noticeable, and they're expensive in comparison to if you run a crapcoin campaign and pay your users in your pre-mined shitcoin so you're literally getting free advertising to have your advert plastered all over the forum by shitposters.

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September 28, 2017, 12:53:02 PM
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Regulate signatures? better to tag anyone hiring shitposters, problem solved.
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September 28, 2017, 02:52:27 PM
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The only way signature campaign will stop is if this forum is closed or banned from operations, cause other crypto forums I have come across does not support or have any signature campaign activities.
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September 28, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
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better to tag anyone hiring shitposters, problem solved.
Not necessarily. The person running the account can just continue to do so off the forum, where the trust rating of the account is no longer relevant.
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September 28, 2017, 06:54:30 PM
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I think it will affect the promotion strategy of the new businesses related to the cryptos, we have seen in the past that many new service providers are running the signature campaigns to promote their business.

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September 28, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
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The signatures campaigns will end only If:

1. The forum is closed for one reason or another.
2. Not enough traffic.

Both seem unlikely (mostly the second) because more users are joining the crypto scene and their first destination is these forums, the more users, the more traffic and the more advertisers will pay to place signatures and ads for their products and services.

I'm just new here, now I feel better because I was curious too if ever it's possible if signature campaigns will end. My brother has been joining signature campaigns for years now, and he already earned a lot because of it.
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September 29, 2017, 03:34:56 AM
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I think until the advertiser's communication fails, the campaign will end. If the campaign ends then you will do another campaign or use a different bitcoin to earn more money and forums will share experiences for newbie  Grin Grin
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September 29, 2017, 08:53:51 AM
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what will happen if all signature campaigns end

What will happen? Shitposters like you will disappear and the forum will stop looking like this:



Things are interrelated to each other
Why owners of website stop campaign when they are generating good money from it.
And why people leave forum when they are getting paid to use it.

The forum loses money by allowing signature campaigns here. Most businesses/projects don't bother buying ads when they can have their signatures plastered all over the forum for free as opposed to buying one tiny, barely noticeable ad slot.

What will happen? Shitposters like you and me will disapear and will be look like this after they stop all the signature campaigns or bounty campaigns. we will be collecting trash and garbage just to make money.
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September 29, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
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Signature campaigns is a very useful marketing strategy to promote new sites, and forums are the best place to get a lot of information on the topics you are interested about because there will be a lot of helpful users around the forum assisting you on the problem you might be facing in the crypto-currencies world. So I would say if this forum exists, I don't see any particular reason to stop all signature campaign here.

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September 30, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
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Signature campaigns is a very useful marketing strategy to promote new sites, and forums are the best place to get a lot of information on the topics you are interested about because there will be a lot of helpful users around the forum assisting you on the problem you might be facing in the crypto-currencies world. So I would say if this forum exists, I don't see any particular reason to stop all signature campaign here.

Really?  You see nothing wrong with completing filling the forum with shit posts by posters that are paid to shill a coin? 

In a few years people are going to wonder where all the legitimate posters went because 99% of the posts will just be shit posts that add no value by people trying to reach their 30 posts a week so they can pocket a few bucks. 
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October 01, 2017, 06:33:05 AM
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I think it will affect the promotion strategy of the new businesses related to the cryptos, we have seen in the past that many new service providers are running the signature campaigns to promote their business.
So? That's a good thing.

Signature campaigns is a very useful marketing strategy to promote new sites, and forums are the best place to get a lot of information on the topics you are interested about because there will be a lot of helpful users around the forum assisting you on the problem you might be facing in the crypto-currencies world. So I would say if this forum exists, I don't see any particular reason to stop all signature campaign here.
No. Stop spamming your two line bullish everywhere.

Really?  You see nothing wrong with completing filling the forum with shit posts by posters that are paid to shill a coin?  
That user is a spammer; therefore, why would it see anything wrong when they're doing the same thing? Roll Eyes

In a few years people are going to wonder where all the legitimate posters went because 99% of the posts will just be shit posts that add no value by people trying to reach their 30 posts a week so they can pocket a few bucks.  
In a few years? You're stuck in the past. This has been going on for quite some time already. The majority of legitimate posters have left. Not everyone has a high level of tolerance, and eventually you just want to give up due to theymoses complete lack of action.

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October 17, 2017, 04:42:25 PM
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In a few years people are going to wonder where all the legitimate posters went because 99% of the posts will just be shit posts that add no value by people trying to reach their 30 posts a week so they can pocket a few bucks.  
In a few years? You're stuck in the past. This has been going on for quite some time already. The majority of legitimate posters have left. Not everyone has a high level of tolerance, and eventually you just want to give up due to theymoses complete lack of action.

Any advice on other forums to read, or where legit posters have gone?  I know anonymint is on Steemit and github, Twitter is dece, some subreddits are good, also Telegram/Slack.
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In a few years people are going to wonder where all the legitimate posters went because 99% of the posts will just be shit posts that add no value by people trying to reach their 30 posts a week so they can pocket a few bucks.  
In a few years? You're stuck in the past. This has been going on for quite some time already. The majority of legitimate posters have left. Not everyone has a high level of tolerance, and eventually you just want to give up due to theymoses complete lack of action.

Any advice on other forums to read, or where legit posters have gone?  I know anonymint is on Steemit and github, Twitter is dece, some subreddits are good, also Telegram/Slack.
There is no such 'go-to-place'.You can follow dedicated posters on bitcointalk as well.Like I personally love checking out Danny's,Rico's previous posts as they're informative .Bit of a work but if you know the right people,forum could be a nice place to learn.Having said that,selective bloggers on Medium also give nice insights on latest crypto stuff and such.
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October 17, 2017, 06:44:05 PM
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Buying ad on the forums is still better than a signature. And they do not need to manage anything.
I disagree. The cost of getting a bunch of Hero/Sr signatures plastered all over the Bitcoin forum with a bunch of shitposters who will spam is about .0225 per person per week (they will post a lot for such an amount). In equivalence of the cheapest ad spot that was auctioned (1.2 BTC), 53 participants can participate in this campaign. 53 participants at 30 posts a week means that you'll see 1590 posts across the forum, most likely in the crappiest but high-density viewing spots.

We'll be looking at Bitcoin Discussion, Economics [Speculation], Gambling [+ discussion], Altcoin sections. Since shitposters will continue to litter amongst one another they will also continue to participate in these places and you'll see that demographic exposed to your ads as well.
It seems more efficient to simply create shitty campaigns and hire low-brow participants to spread your product in their waste.

You could probably even get by with .015 pp / week, making it 80 participants for the same price as the cheapest slot.

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October 17, 2017, 06:52:53 PM
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It doesn't cost anything to pre-mine a crapcoin and pay unlimited users in it. You don't even have to monitor participants; just accept unlimited users (including newbies - because why the hell not?) who will post any old crap without consequence. Why would anyone purchase ad slots when you can just do this? That's the problem here. Signature campaigns clearly work. I wouldn't even be aware of 99% of shitcoin ICOs if it wasn't for the tribes of shitposters spamming nonsense everywhere whereas I barely notice the one forum ad.

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October 17, 2017, 07:00:42 PM
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what will happen if all signature campaigns end,? whereas most of us look for bitcoin through campaigns.
is it possible that this forum will be left behind, ..?
I also may be confused when this happens   Huh
I think Bitcoin will never be left behind as it is the main Bitcoin forum and is the place to exchange information and exchange between Bitcoiners. Besides, I believe the signature campaigns will continue because it aims to introduce and promote campaigns as well as new currencies. So, I think that's your mistake

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October 17, 2017, 07:16:03 PM
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Soon after joining this forum I became aware of the signature campaigns spamming problem in it as it can be seen in a post I opened: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2111476.0

But after a bit longer in the forum I’ve come to realize that there is a kind of obsession with quality posts that I haven’t seen in other forums.

What makes a forum important is not quality posting but the amount of crap in it.

Crappy posting and traffic go hand in hand, and in the internet world you are nobody if you don’t generate traffic.

A forum is not an Encyclopedia, it is part of the entertainment industry. It is not a place where people go to just get information, it is a place where people exchange opinions.

So, what I’ve seen is people defending that this should be a place for only quality posts but what that would mean if it was done in hard mode is that some entire sections of the forum would have to be deleted and most posts closed for new replies after the first page.

What is normal is that the more specific and technical a section is, the less traffic and spam it has. That is what happens in all forums I’ve seen.
Most forums have quite a lot of trash in the General section or equivalent, like Bitcoin Discussion in this forum, although people do not get paid for writing. Usually those sections account for most of traffic and are what make forum important but they are full of low-quality opinionated replies.

In my view, quality should not matter as much in sections like “Bitcoin Discussion” as in more technical ones like “Mining” or “Development and Technical Discussion”.

Although, as I have said in other posts on this subject, I favor measures to reduce spamming and I already report people and have taken other personal measures, like not replying to most newbie (silly) posts.

If signature campaigns ended I would still come to the forum although there would be less traffic and less crap, and I would also earn bitcoins in another way, or maybe I would even buy them.


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