Can we Force newbie's to use Escrow or delete the thread???

[stugots2]

Did you register just to post this??
or is this a "new" account from another member who may be trying to sell shit withOUT Escrow?? lol

[fat_monkey]

Did you register just to post this??
or is this a "new" account from another member who may be trying to sell shit withOUT Escrow?? lol

No, i just give my opinion i am not selling anything and i am not saying you should buy without escrow, i said i understand some people who will
not accept it because only the buyer is protected and also to be careful.

And i don't have any other account, i checked for a long time on this forum the topics and now created an account.

[dwink]

Did you register just to post this??
or is this a "new" account from another member who may be trying to sell shit withOUT Escrow?? lol

No, i just give my opinion i am not selling anything and i am not saying you should buy without escrow, i said i understand some people who will
not accept it because only the buyer is protected and also to be careful.

And i don't have any other account, i checked for a long time on this forum the topics and now created an account.

What makes you think the seller isn't protected. If the item is as per description, then the money is released to the seller. If the seller says it works, and the buyer says it doesnt, then its only common sense that the buyer returns the product and the money released back to the seller after the tracking number confirms receipt. The only loss for both parties is shipping costs... so not sure why either party would subject themselves to that loss. Escrows are trusted members of the community who are mediators who resolves disputes, dictate the terms of the trade, suggest fraud prevent measures that's fair for both parties. They are not just a mechanical third party who holds the money till the buyer receives their item. An escrow is putting up his reputation on the line for a win-win fair trade to take place... and that is usually more priceless than the value of the item sold.

[Truthchanter]

@ Mods & Community,

I vote for both:
1. Escrow must be accepted by all sellers, however they have the option to additionally not use escrow when selling as long as they offer it.

2. All sellers must post an asking price in their selling threads



All seller threads not offering escrow or listing an asking price would be locked immediately. This is similar to how it works on reddit r/hardwareswap and works very well (they mostly use paypal instead of escrow though)

[dwink]

@ Mods & Community,

I vote for both:
1. Escrow must be accepted by all sellers, however they have the option to additionally not use escrow when selling as long as they offer it.

2. All sellers must post an asking price in their selling threads



All seller threads not offering escrow or listing an asking price would be locked immediately. This is similar to how it works on reddit r/hardwareswap and works very well (they mostly use paypal instead of escrow though)

Yup... that's fair... if both the seller and buyer doesn't want escrow, then that's their gamble. Sellers with asking price is an excellent idea as well. None of that "PM me for prices" nonsense. Exceptions only for customized items/services where the price depends on buyer's specifications/requirements.

[willywonkaaa]

I urge everyone to fill out this complaint


https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx/


if we get enough people complaining they will investigate and his anonymous shield wall will be broken.

this guy is a fraud.


put his website http://www.bitmastersinc.com/shop/


we need to stop scammers and criminals like him.



SCAMMER

[hedgy73]

BitmastersINC is a scammer.

No proof of hardware being sold or proof of hardware being collected or using escrow.

Absolute scam including website do not trust.

SCAM 100%.

To go along with 95% of other scams on the selling pages here.

Do not trade unless you're 100% sure its legit.

Ask a reputable member if you're unsure.

[wheelz1200]

BitmastersINC is a scammer.

No proof of hardware being sold or proof of hardware being collected or using escrow.

Absolute scam including website do not trust.

SCAM 100%.

To go along with 95% of other scams on the selling pages here.

Do not trade unless you're 100% sure its legit.

Ask a reputable member if you're unsure.

Never once when people asked for some assurance that they actually have them have they answered.  Side steps every request.  Deletes thread starts a new one repeatedly.  All tell tale signs....

[BMOO]

Some buyers wait for receiving miners and switch it with broken machines. They keep the miners and get the refund from the escrow. Sellers need to find a way to mark their miners.

[cpfreeplz]

Idk, who cares? Newbies are free to ask for anything just like any other user. It doesn't mean they or anyone else should get a deal without escrow, but if they do it's just the other person's stupidity. Bitcointalk has made it very clear that they won't ban people because they scam etc.

[wheelz1200]

Some buyers wait for receiving miners and switch it with broken machines. They keep the miners and get the refund from the escrow. Sellers need to find a way to mark their miners.

Life with crypto....Otherwise go to ebay I say...if every newbie just came here and asked for $10s of thousand of dollars from someone anonymously with a payment that is irreversible there would be noare here.  Escrow and escrow only allows for us to transact in bitcoin...