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October 05, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
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Hey Guys this is a little Heads up for the people and for this community I found a serious problem regarding on airdrops..

There's someone using your name to fill and accumulate some tokens under your name.

If you never join any airdrop program here you should be worried right now..

I saw mprep,minerjones,xandry and other trusted guys been used for this abused..

DragonExchange airdrop ANN thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236055.720

DragonExchange airdrop spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ai9idiCIRgw1MGpe0DgkX95DkZC2m3uJnW0HIjZURSc/edit#gid=809023489


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October 05, 2017, 09:51:17 AM
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I saw my name too, I never applied for any such airdrop.ETH address specified in the sheet has never been used by me.

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October 05, 2017, 10:12:06 AM
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How can they get a payment just for posting their username with no benefit to the campaign? Don't they have to put a signature in? Surely if not it's a very flawed system.  Thread has been trashed any way.

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October 05, 2017, 10:19:08 AM
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How can they get a payment just for posting their username with no benefit to the campaign? Don't they have to put a signature in? Surely if not it's a very flawed system.  Thread has been trashed any way.

There do exist some threads with the same case, here is one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1867535.0

It started with airdrop and now bounty campaign.




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October 05, 2017, 10:41:01 AM
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I noticed those names too, However they wouldnt have gone through since the requirement was to send a confirmation message with your bitcoin talk account to the dev.
I dont think it was a flawed system in that regard.


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October 05, 2017, 10:47:03 AM
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Never joined this airdrop as others and i would like to see some explanations from DragonExchange before he get negative trust.

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October 05, 2017, 10:58:12 AM
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probably the scammers used the names,I personally did not write,was the Google form to participate,and all anyone could write as soon as you throw the required number of participants,the form was disabled
that's really the form itself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMhEUcuojDRB3cUL-v1_V98FGNdr_4xdtAlE2UGTMXmPM6Kg/viewform
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probably the scammers used the names,I personally did not write,was the Google form to participate,and all anyone could write as soon as you throw the required number of participants,the form was disabled
that's really the form itself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMhEUcuojDRB3cUL-v1_V98FGNdr_4xdtAlE2UGTMXmPM6Kg/viewform
Anyone could write whatever he wanted? If yes, this was a very stupid mistake.

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October 05, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
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Hey Guys this is a little Heads up for the people and for this community I found a serious problem regarding on airdrops..

There's someone using your name to fill the accumulate some tokens under your name.

If you never join any airdrop program here you should be worried right now..

I saw mprep,minerjones,xandry and other trusted guys been used for this abused..

DragonExchange airdrop ANN thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236055.720

DragonExchange airdrop spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ai9idiCIRgw1MGpe0DgkX95DkZC2m3uJnW0HIjZURSc/edit#gid=809023489


We must be careful for future problem coming.

No problem because we need to prove name by pm after registration.

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October 05, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
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probably the scammers used the names,I personally did not write,was the Google form to participate,and all anyone could write as soon as you throw the required number of participants,the form was disabled
that's really the form itself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMhEUcuojDRB3cUL-v1_V98FGNdr_4xdtAlE2UGTMXmPM6Kg/viewform
Anyone could write whatever he wanted? If yes, this was a very stupid mistake.

true  Cry,but I'm not even thought that may be the case as it is now, but I still asked the participants to confirm their entry via private message
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October 05, 2017, 11:11:19 AM
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Told you already. There should be a mechanism to check fakes. Just filling a form is not enough. Ebtc is one of that abused airdrops

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October 05, 2017, 11:11:49 AM
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probably the scammers used the names,I personally did not write,was the Google form to participate,and all anyone could write as soon as you throw the required number of participants,the form was disabled
that's really the form itself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMhEUcuojDRB3cUL-v1_V98FGNdr_4xdtAlE2UGTMXmPM6Kg/viewform
Anyone could write whatever he wanted? If yes, this was a very stupid mistake.

true  Cry,but I'm not even thought that may be the case as it is now, but I still asked the participants to confirm their entry via private message

This I can attest to, As my name was not colored on the sheet until I confirmed via a PM with my eth address.

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October 05, 2017, 11:13:28 AM
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Same for me.

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October 05, 2017, 11:18:15 AM
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it seems the campaign manager really screwed this one up... My name is indicated in green and i want to publicly state i have NOT joined this campaign!!!

I am NOT the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I have never been the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I will never be the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
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October 05, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it seems the campaign manager really screwed this one up... My name is indicated in green and i want to publicly state i have NOT joined this campaign!!!

I am NOT the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I have never been the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I will never be the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4


That is correct, my mistake in mentioning colored name. I do not know what that stands for. However i meant to refer to colored rank and time stamp. These are not colored on your behalf.

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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it seems the campaign manager really screwed this one up... My name is indicated in green and i want to publicly state i have NOT joined this campaign!!!

I am NOT the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I have never been the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I will never be the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
http://prntscr.com/gtk5j3
so I select have confirmed their participation
if you look carefully,your name just used a cheater
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it seems the campaign manager really screwed this one up... My name is indicated in green and i want to publicly state i have NOT joined this campaign!!!

I am NOT the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I have never been the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I will never be the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
http://prntscr.com/gtk5j3
so I select have confirmed their participation
if you look carefully,your name just used a cheater

I'm sorry, but i have a hard time understanding this explanation.
Do you mean to say you received a confirmation from me, or that you labelled me a cheater?

I'd have to disagree with both statements, unless my account was hacked there shouldn't have been any confirmations being sent with my account, and i can honestly say i haven't cheated anybody.
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Confirming that I have NOT joined the airdrop. Seems pretty petty trying to scam out airdrop tokens.


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October 05, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it seems the campaign manager really screwed this one up... My name is indicated in green and i want to publicly state i have NOT joined this campaign!!!

I am NOT the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I have never been the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
I will never be the owner of address 0x80CBB2aDaC9acDa1B50f59f6A648599e2EEc50f4
http://prntscr.com/gtk5j3
so I select have confirmed their participation
if you look carefully,your name just used a cheater

I'm sorry, but i have a hard time understanding this explanation.
Do you mean to say you received a confirmation from me, or that you labelled me a cheater?

I'd have to disagree with both statements, unless my account was hacked there shouldn't have been any confirmations being sent with my account, and i can honestly say i haven't cheated anybody.

I believe he means to say The selected names that he pointed to in the image with an arrow have been confirmed by sending PM from the said bitcointalk account, but if you look at the image, your name was used by a cheater, and hence it was marked. So if you were to actually apply for the airdrop, you would confirm via pm, and your real account will be confirmed, and time stamp and rank will be colored. The cheat account will be deleted.

 

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form
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spreadsheet
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a simple example to understand,fill in any words form and you automatically will see it in the table,Yes my fault that I have not fully configured it,but it's my fault.
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October 05, 2017, 11:46:42 AM
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form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HEgyNyl3MT1nqyaMpNgRZKcQKtKRrU7TrLYfWTQ32Ag/edit
spreadsheet
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a simple example to understand,fill in any words form and you automatically will see it in the table,Yes my fault that I have not fully configured it,but it's my fault.

The best way to recover from this mess is to tell the participants to put their ETH address in their accounts.. I know it will take time to verify, other than that u may need to restart the registration procedure

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October 05, 2017, 11:51:53 AM
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waiting for an answer from the moderators,I want to continue the project and restart the registration airdrop(via personal message) tell me in what section can this best be done?
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October 05, 2017, 11:58:37 AM
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waiting for an answer from the moderators,I want to continue the project and restart the registration airdrop(via personal message) tell me in what section can this best be done?

The best section would be Announcements. Please make it mandatory for the participants to use their ETH address in their profile

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October 05, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
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waiting for an answer from the moderators,I want to continue the project and restart the registration airdrop(via personal message) tell me in what section can this best be done?
i would say to make a list of those that have already verified by pm on this forum, then fill in the remaining slots with a better system,? just an idea and will shorten the process also!

also putting the eth wallet in the website title of the persons profile will allow for fast verification also

but please do consider to give a bit better of calculating the amounts ok?

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October 05, 2017, 12:05:07 PM
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waiting for an answer from the moderators,I want to continue the project and restart the registration airdrop(via personal message) tell me in what section can this best be done?
i would say to make a list of those that have already verified by pm on this forum, then fill in the remaining slots with a better system,? just an idea and will shorten the process also!

Give them a week time to verify the ownership since it took less than 3 days for the airdrop to be over. So, 1 week is enough. After that no claims.

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The thing is the link provided by OP to Dragon Exchange thread might have been moved already.

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October 05, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
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add a constraint one year of the date registration the profile
the limit for all Newbie
mandatory address eth in the line profile Location
fill out the form and check each application for AIRDROP
you can add a confirmation through a personal message
we need a tough repressive measures)))

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October 05, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
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What's wrong in being a newbie?

I keep reading from you seniors that that's an issue. But you all were newbies once as well.

Newbie in the sense of being registered to this forum doesn't mean that the person is a newbie for real... Could be a perfect legit investor who just discovered Bitcointalk.org and is now trying to keep up with what's going on. That's my case, so I feel like being considered as a fake/cheater per default is a bit discriminatory. Not being actively part in the discussion also does not mean someone is not reading and learning by following others posts.

On the other hand, I understand that cheaters are everywhere and there must be rules and ways to verify who's allowed to take part to airdrops, bounties or even participate in the community. But that's something you should solve.

Just my two sats.

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October 05, 2017, 01:02:10 PM
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What's wrong in being a newbie?

I keep reading from you seniors that that's an issue. But you all were newbies once as well.

Newbie in the sense of being registered to this forum doesn't mean that the person is a newbie for real... Could be a perfect legit investor who just discovered Bitcointalk.org and is now trying to keep up with what's going on. That's my case, so I feel like being considered as a fake/cheater per default is a bit discriminatory. Not being actively part in the discussion also does not mean someone is not reading and learning by following others posts.

On the other hand, I understand that cheaters are everywhere and there must be rules and ways to verify who's allowed to take part to airdrops, bounties or even participate in the community. But that's something you should solve.

Just my two sats.
do not take to heart if you are an honest man
just lately a lot of airdrop and people are creating tons of fake accounts even for their Pets)))

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October 05, 2017, 01:11:01 PM
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form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HEgyNyl3MT1nqyaMpNgRZKcQKtKRrU7TrLYfWTQ32Ag/edit
spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ai9idiCIRgw1MGpe0DgkX95DkZC2m3uJnW0HIjZURSc/edit#gid=1729259841
a simple example to understand,fill in any words form and you automatically will see it in the table,Yes my fault that I have not fully configured it,but it's my fault.

The best way to recover from this mess is to tell the participants to put their ETH address in their accounts.. I know it will take time to verify, other than that u may need to restart the registration procedure
yes agree i think this is the best way to continue the airdrop if the participants not put thier address in their profile  its  means disqualified from the airdrop just simple so you will know who is the real owner of every account .

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October 05, 2017, 01:11:46 PM
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What's wrong in being a newbie?

I keep reading from you seniors that that's an issue. But you all were newbies once as well.

Newbie in the sense of being registered to this forum doesn't mean that the person is a newbie for real... Could be a perfect legit investor who just discovered Bitcointalk.org and is now trying to keep up with what's going on. That's my case, so I feel like being considered as a fake/cheater per default is a bit discriminatory. Not being actively part in the discussion also does not mean someone is not reading and learning by following others posts.

On the other hand, I understand that cheaters are everywhere and there must be rules and ways to verify who's allowed to take part to airdrops, bounties or even participate in the community. But that's something you should solve.

Just my two sats.
do not take to heart if you are an honest man
just lately a lot of airdrop and people are creating tons of fake accounts even for their Pets)))

Sure, I'm not! I just wanted to state that not all newbies are cheaters and there must be some other way to verify who's who than simply checking the ranking in a forum Wink

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October 05, 2017, 02:01:56 PM
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What's wrong in being a newbie?

I keep reading from you seniors that that's an issue. But you all were newbies once as well.

Newbie in the sense of being registered to this forum doesn't mean that the person is a newbie for real... Could be a perfect legit investor who just discovered Bitcointalk.org and is now trying to keep up with what's going on. That's my case, so I feel like being considered as a fake/cheater per default is a bit discriminatory. Not being actively part in the discussion also does not mean someone is not reading and learning by following others posts.

On the other hand, I understand that cheaters are everywhere and there must be rules and ways to verify who's allowed to take part to airdrops, bounties or even participate in the community. But that's something you should solve.

Just my two sats.
do not take to heart if you are an honest man
just lately a lot of airdrop and people are creating tons of fake accounts even for their Pets)))

Sure, I'm not! I just wanted to state that not all newbies are cheaters and there must be some other way to verify who's who than simply checking the ranking in a forum Wink

I totally agree with you!
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October 05, 2017, 02:07:30 PM
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What's wrong in being a newbie?

I keep reading from you seniors that that's an issue. But you all were newbies once as well.

Newbie in the sense of being registered to this forum doesn't mean that the person is a newbie for real... Could be a perfect legit investor who just discovered Bitcointalk.org and is now trying to keep up with what's going on. That's my case, so I feel like being considered as a fake/cheater per default is a bit discriminatory. Not being actively part in the discussion also does not mean someone is not reading and learning by following others posts.

On the other hand, I understand that cheaters are everywhere and there must be rules and ways to verify who's allowed to take part to airdrops, bounties or even participate in the community. But that's something you should solve.

Just my two sats.
do not take to heart if you are an honest man
just lately a lot of airdrop and people are creating tons of fake accounts even for their Pets)))

Sure, I'm not! I just wanted to state that not all newbies are cheaters and there must be some other way to verify who's who than simply checking the ranking in a forum Wink

I totally agree with you!
Me too , I agree with your statement. I hope that the rules will be changed in order to prevent cheating.
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October 05, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
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Where is a new thread of ANN Huh
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October 05, 2017, 04:42:21 PM
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Now I can understand why our two ANN topics were deleted...

We think the solution proposed by the user tamara163 is a good one.
We already limited the airdrop for newbie users (you should be Jr. Member or above and you must be registered before a certain date of last september). We may add also the request for ETH address in profile or signature. We can also request the users to send us a PM for confirmation.

Any mod please can confirm us that these measures could be enough? We would like to start our fair airdrop, thank you
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October 05, 2017, 05:48:00 PM
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Now I can understand why our two ANN topics were deleted...

We think the solution proposed by the user tamara163 is a good one.
We already limited the airdrop for newbie users (you should be Jr. Member or above and you must be registered before a certain date of last september). We may add also the request for ETH address in profile or signature. We can also request the users to send us a PM for confirmation.

Any mod please can confirm us that these measures could be enough? We would like to start our fair airdrop, thank you
Actually the problem is that the airdrop requires to post on the thread to join the airdrop which could result to spam since not all read the purpose of the topic or project since all they want is the free coin. Another problem for airdrop is the Fill-up form where they don't need to prove ownership since all they want is the username, profile link and eth or waves address where anyone can do so people just search a random username and fill-up the form where the owner of the account doesn't even know what happened. 
Better to use the PM option and limit the airdrop for a certain number of person to join.

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October 05, 2017, 06:24:51 PM
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Now I can understand why our two ANN topics were deleted...

We think the solution proposed by the user tamara163 is a good one.
We already limited the airdrop for newbie users (you should be Jr. Member or above and you must be registered before a certain date of last september). We may add also the request for ETH address in profile or signature. We can also request the users to send us a PM for confirmation.

Any mod please can confirm us that these measures could be enough? We would like to start our fair airdrop, thank you
Actually the problem is that the airdrop requires to post on the thread to join the airdrop which could result to spam since not all read the purpose of the topic or project since all they want is the free coin. Another problem for airdrop is the Fill-up form where they don't need to prove ownership since all they want is the username, profile link and eth or waves address where anyone can do so people just search a random username and fill-up the form where the owner of the account doesn't even know what happened. 
Better to use the PM option and limit the airdrop for a certain number of person to join.

We agree with the PM option, and we may limit to a cap of applications, we will discuss internally about the latter.
If any mod can confirm that it's ok to proceed this way, maybe we won't have another ANN topic closed.
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October 05, 2017, 10:42:17 PM
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Now I can understand why our two ANN topics were deleted...

We think the solution proposed by the user tamara163 is a good one.
We already limited the airdrop for newbie users (you should be Jr. Member or above and you must be registered before a certain date of last september). We may add also the request for ETH address in profile or signature. We can also request the users to send us a PM for confirmation.

Any mod please can confirm us that these measures could be enough? We would like to start our fair airdrop, thank you

I think this is a viable solution for now. More task to take but its okey, besides participants are getting the coins for free anyway. I agree on this suggestion.

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I would say get a quick one page site up where u can have registration and just post it in your thread but don't say anything about bounty payouts based on membership. Bitcointalk won't allow that now, the levying of memberships for value, but they will let you post your coin you just need a link to another page off bitcointalk since you had it based on memberships. I also would suggest maybe making the bounties a twitter follow or retweet system to better expose the coin. I'd love to talk more if you wanna PM me!
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Confirmation by PM is best way to make cheater not duplicate accounts to get airdrops.

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Confirmation by PM is best way to make cheater not duplicate accounts to get airdrops.

Right. There are airdrops that you need to send pm with your ETH address to them so I hope this needs to be followed by ICOs who will announce airdrops in the future. I just imagined on how many MEW wallets those cheaters have.

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We discussed about the new registration rules for the airdrop, and we decided to move to something not related to Bitcointalk username or rank, since we think that checking PM one by one is really unpractical.
So we are thinking about allowing everyone to enter the airdrop, but the distribution will be granted only to users that provide a non-zero ETH balance address, or a defined minimum balance. This way can avoid spamming too much addresses and can also be a fair distribution for newbie users aswell.
We can maybe use a PM confirmation for other future airdrops, but only to a limited number of users, still not sure about this.

If any mod can kindly confirm we can proceed this way, it would be really appreciated, thank you


EDIT:

As stated here:

Actually the problem is that the airdrop requires to post on the thread to join the airdrop which could result to spam since not all read the purpose of the topic or project since all they want is the free coin.

We are willing to open a self moderated thread, so we can get rid of every spam reply like "Joined", "I'm in", "Filled the registration", etc.
It is not our intention to open a topic where users can spam messages just to increase their rank.
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