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September 22, 2017, 03:18:44 PM
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Hi guys!

We are planning to launch an ICO for our chatbot-platform.Since we are going to sell the service mostly for fiat  fiat money we consider a buyback option as a way of returning profits to investors. We, however, do not understand so far if there are any legally or technically binding mechsnism that will guarantee potential investors, that we will do a buyback and thus raise their trust in us.

Maybe you can recommend something?

Thanx!
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September 22, 2017, 03:26:43 PM
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"legally or technically binding mechsnism"

of course it will depend on the jurisdiction you are speaking about
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September 26, 2017, 06:11:02 PM
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There is a way you can do that IMO and to ensure that you are genuine and you wish to give the profits to your end users and investors in fiat only, you need to ask exchanges to peg it to the type of fiat currency you want to allow your investors to buy it for. However, you will be given with the only choices that are available on the exchanges itself where you are willing to put your coin after the sale.

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September 26, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
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Hi guys!

We are planning to launch an ICO for our chatbot-platform.Since we are going to sell the service mostly for fiat  fiat money we consider a buyback option as a way of returning profits to investors. We, however, do not understand so far if there are any legally or technically binding mechsnism that will guarantee potential investors, that we will do a buyback and thus raise their trust in us.

Maybe you can recommend something?

Thanx!

I can recommend you hire a lawyer. If you're going to launch an ICO, but are looking to Bitcoin Talk for legal advice, then you're doing it wrong.

Still FWIW, buy-back-and-burn is my favored method for blockchain based businesses to return value to customers. ICN and MGO are both built on that very idea for value return.
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September 26, 2017, 06:36:20 PM
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As far as I know, all ICOs with buyback schemes do not have binding schemes. Investors just have to take their word for it. I can imagine that smart contracts can even be made to ensure buyback agreements are in place, but I do not know how to implement this. Another form of buy back is having sell walls on certain exchanges, but this does not really help holders.

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September 26, 2017, 07:24:46 PM
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Hi guys!

We are planning to launch an ICO for our chatbot-platform.Since we are going to sell the service mostly for fiat  fiat money we consider a buyback option as a way of returning profits to investors. We, however, do not understand so far if there are any legally or technically binding mechsnism that will guarantee potential investors, that we will do a buyback and thus raise their trust in us.

Maybe you can recommend something?

Thanx!
That seems like it could get complicated very quickly, what laws are the ones that are going to apply, I suppose that you will want the ones where you are starting your ico, otherwise it is going to get very complicated with hundreds of jurisdictions each one with their own laws.
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September 26, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
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Hi guys!

We are planning to launch an ICO for our chatbot-platform.Since we are going to sell the service mostly for fiat  fiat money we consider a buyback option as a way of returning profits to investors. We, however, do not understand so far if there are any legally or technically binding mechsnism that will guarantee potential investors, that we will do a buyback and thus raise their trust in us.

Maybe you can recommend something?

Thanx!

No there's no such thing and since this space is unregulated (thank god) investors will just have to trust you on your word. Also with upcoming regulations you might want to see if buy-backs are legal and if there has not yet been made any laws around this then you should add a disclaimer in the whitepaper to guarrantee safety.

Something like this:

''During the course of this ICO at: ''insert date'' ICO's were not yet regulated and no laws had been made. Therefore we can not guarrantee that all methods, practices and claims are 100% legal with future regulations and laws from: ''insert date''. We ''insert name'' therefore deny all liability and deny all responsibility regarding any methods, practices, actions and claims made during the ICO stage and developing actions and reactions from there on. We ''insert name'' also deny any liability and responsibility regarding any future projections, claims, mechanisms and actions that had not been restricted yet by rule or law nor regulations.''

Something like that, though I might miss a thing or two- three.

So buy-backs are not legal on the stock market. I know that short-term buybacks are illegal but long term buybacks are legal(I think..), some companies need to buy back in order to remain healthy and combat inflation. I know IBM did a buyback to not suffer from a declining EPS (Earnings Per Share). So if IBM did it.. then I suppose it is legal on long term. But short term buybacks would just be another insanely profitable scheme for investors.

A thorough and extensive legal disclaimer is a MUST!!

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October 05, 2017, 07:31:41 PM
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Hi guys!

We are planning to launch an ICO for our chatbot-platform.Since we are going to sell the service mostly for fiat  fiat money we consider a buyback option as a way of returning profits to investors. We, however, do not understand so far if there are any legally or technically binding mechsnism that will guarantee potential investors, that we will do a buyback and thus raise their trust in us.

Maybe you can recommend something?

Thanx!

I can recommend you hire a lawyer. If you're going to launch an ICO, but are looking to Bitcoin Talk for legal advice, then you're doing it wrong.

Still FWIW, buy-back-and-burn is my favored method for blockchain based businesses to return value to customers. ICN and MGO are both built on that very idea for value return.
He will probably need a team of lawyers and even with such a huge team it may be possible they are unable to see the full consequences of doing something like this since it is very likely they have no experience with cryptocurrencies.
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October 05, 2017, 07:35:11 PM
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Definitely get a lawyer to see if you are on the safe side. As well you can contact Bancor, and BlackmoonCrypto team they both have implemented a buyback system successfully.

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