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October 23, 2017, 08:49:13 PM
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It's interesting your servers don't even have hard drives and is all based on RAM. That must take a lot of RAM. Is this a fairly common practice?

It is cheap enough to get 32 GB of RAM. This is enough to run our apps or a database for now. It is not common because it is difficult to operate and most companies do not need the security.

For some reason I was assuming you were storing data in them for the long term, but now I see you encrypt it and use hard drives. This makes much more sense, thanks.
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October 24, 2017, 06:52:18 AM
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The law in the Netherlands is quite clear upon data-storage on who is the rightfull owner, as long as the company is registered in the Netherlands, it will be a hard and harsh fight for the US and other country's to lay down a claim upon data, especially when it is not again the local law of the Netherlands.

I'm aware that not everything is as "ok" as we sometimes believe, but keeping stuff liquid on RAM-drives means u'll have multiple servers hosted across the globe and perhaps an server nearby your location to collect a backup in case of.. well you know

The moment we ever move from that safe spot, the US would grab us. The US might play dirty tricks, accuse of us other things ... whatever they can. The best approach is a layered one. There are benefits to customers too: No subpoenas or warrants possible.

RAM drives mean we have an constantly-streaming encrypted backup system, yes. And it does mean if something fails, we end up needing to manually enter the key to restore. I believe this tradeoff is worth protecting everyone's data.



Nobody can every say you guys haven't gone the extra mile for security, that's for sure.

I can only agree with that, you guys surely take the extra mile (or 2)  for security.

I was just looking/offering different options Smiley Since my personal opinion is, that staying in the shadow isn't always the best choice, when trying to offer a service where transparancy may in fact be a dealmaker. The kind of service you are planning to offer, mostly means a form of + knowledge on those offering the service on your platform, where most of these persons rather stay in the shadow them self (namewise), but to be certain the person is legit required a form of verification.

Oh well I'm certain you and your team have crossed that in your minds aswell.


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October 24, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
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The law in the Netherlands is quite clear upon data-storage on who is the rightfull owner, as long as the company is registered in the Netherlands, it will be a hard and harsh fight for the US and other country's to lay down a claim upon data, especially when it is not again the local law of the Netherlands.

I'm aware that not everything is as "ok" as we sometimes believe, but keeping stuff liquid on RAM-drives means u'll have multiple servers hosted across the globe and perhaps an server nearby your location to collect a backup in case of.. well you know

The moment we ever move from that safe spot, the US would grab us. The US might play dirty tricks, accuse of us other things ... whatever they can. The best approach is a layered one. There are benefits to customers too: No subpoenas or warrants possible.

RAM drives mean we have an constantly-streaming encrypted backup system, yes. And it does mean if something fails, we end up needing to manually enter the key to restore. I believe this tradeoff is worth protecting everyone's data.



Nobody can every say you guys haven't gone the extra mile for security, that's for sure.

I can only agree with that, you guys surely take the extra mile (or 2)  for security.

I was just looking/offering different options Smiley Since my personal opinion is, that staying in the shadow isn't always the best choice, when trying to offer a service where transparancy may in fact be a dealmaker. The kind of service you are planning to offer, mostly means a form of + knowledge on those offering the service on your platform, where most of these persons rather stay in the shadow them self (namewise), but to be certain the person is legit required a form of verification.

Oh well I'm certain you and your team have crossed that in your minds aswell.



I kind of agree that this level of security could be overkill. I think this could be very high in demand for other fields though, maybe even more legally gray areas than this.
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October 24, 2017, 10:47:50 PM
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Latest app preview:

https://vimeo.com/239655911
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October 25, 2017, 05:21:57 AM
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Latest app preview:

https://vimeo.com/239655911

Nice review / sales pitch.


On another note:

I'm kind of wondering how verification of the service providing party will be done and also for those that take on this service (ID verification can be a good base layer, yet its also the most common form of identity theft).

Physical verification can be done, altho it might be a lot of work to do, it also has only a reach of about 1-2 hours a drive away from the persons doing the physical check, digital as backfall into into, could extend the option but can only be trusted so far (It is way harder to verify forced situations then doing this physical).

The most effective method is and should be tiered, with multiple methods of growing into tiers.

untrusted = Atleast a costumer informed Pink that the service provider details are not accurate, the provider is offered a 1 time chance to change the details
untrusted = A service provider has claim unpaid services, Identity is incorrect, or anything other that should raise negative trust.
Base level = Identification verification has been uploaded
regular = atleast 3 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate /// regular = a service provider has verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.
extended = atleast 10 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate // extended = 3 service providers have verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.


I know I'm probably asking to inside information and do understand if this can't be delivered, but I like the idea behind the app and as far as I can see the design of it, I'm now getting more and more curious about the methods of how

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October 25, 2017, 05:41:35 AM
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Do you have a showcase of application scenarios? Only to explain the text is pale, and there is no token here, right?
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October 25, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?




I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.
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October 25, 2017, 07:03:27 PM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?




I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

That's the maximum though isn't it? I'm sure I could think of plenty of uses for that much money, I wonder how much Ashley Madison spent on advertising? I saw their ads EVERYWHERE for a while.
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October 25, 2017, 07:19:32 PM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?




I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

That's the maximum though isn't it? I'm sure I could think of plenty of uses for that much money, I wonder how much Ashley Madison spent on advertising? I saw their ads EVERYWHERE for a while.


You surely could use it to lose it
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October 26, 2017, 11:39:48 AM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?

I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

There are no big established escort agencies operating in the US or Canada due to legality issues. There are a bunch of smaller ones with 10, 20 workers that get by because they maintain a low profile.

$200,000 is how much some individual escorts make annually. If we charged 10% and they used Pink exclusively, that's just 10 escorts. So I do not understand how you are arriving that the company is worth $200K. And you should realize that everyone disagrees with you. The only people that agree are the ones that view our system as fundamentally flawed and worth $0.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to convey.
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October 26, 2017, 11:46:40 AM
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I'm kind of wondering how verification of the service providing party will be done and also for those that take on this service (ID verification can be a good base layer, yet its also the most common form of identity theft).

Physical verification can be done, altho it might be a lot of work to do, it also has only a reach of about 1-2 hours a drive away from the persons doing the physical check, digital as backfall into into, could extend the option but can only be trusted so far (It is way harder to verify forced situations then doing this physical).

The most effective method is and should be tiered, with multiple methods of growing into tiers.

untrusted = Atleast a costumer informed Pink that the service provider details are not accurate, the provider is offered a 1 time chance to change the details
untrusted = A service provider has claim unpaid services, Identity is incorrect, or anything other that should raise negative trust.
Base level = Identification verification has been uploaded
regular = atleast 3 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate /// regular = a service provider has verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.
extended = atleast 10 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate // extended = 3 service providers have verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.

I know I'm probably asking to inside information and do understand if this can't be delivered, but I like the idea behind the app and as far as I can see the design of it, I'm now getting more and more curious about the methods of how

We will publish more details soon. Providers will choose a screening level that works for them. When a client tries to make contact they will need to meet the screening requirements before the provider is even notified. The provider will see what info they have provided: Employment Verified, ID verified, phone verified, Social Media linked (Example: Facebook (207 friends)). In some cases, the client can elect to keep this on file for providers that want to do their own screening. Then with one click the provider is receiving the original info the client submitted.

Providers will also see general notes by other providers that have seen that client in addition to the clients rating. The notes may be things about hygiene, peculiarities, punctuality or attitude while on date.
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October 26, 2017, 11:47:38 AM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?

I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

There are no big established escort agencies operating in the US or Canada due to legality issues. There are a bunch of smaller ones with 10, 20 workers that get by because they maintain a low profile.

$200,000 is how much some individual escorts make annually. If we charged 10% and they used Pink exclusively, that's just 10 escorts. So I do not understand how you are arriving that the company is worth $200K. And you should realize that everyone disagrees with you. The only people that agree are the ones that view our system as fundamentally flawed and worth $0.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to convey.


Price valuations are hard to do, when there is no viable product available yet, nor any insight in how the software is going to work exactly.

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October 26, 2017, 11:48:06 AM
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I'm kind of wondering how verification of the service providing party will be done and also for those that take on this service (ID verification can be a good base layer, yet its also the most common form of identity theft).

Physical verification can be done, altho it might be a lot of work to do, it also has only a reach of about 1-2 hours a drive away from the persons doing the physical check, digital as backfall into into, could extend the option but can only be trusted so far (It is way harder to verify forced situations then doing this physical).

The most effective method is and should be tiered, with multiple methods of growing into tiers.

untrusted = Atleast a costumer informed Pink that the service provider details are not accurate, the provider is offered a 1 time chance to change the details
untrusted = A service provider has claim unpaid services, Identity is incorrect, or anything other that should raise negative trust.
Base level = Identification verification has been uploaded
regular = atleast 3 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate /// regular = a service provider has verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.
extended = atleast 10 costumers verified that the shown data in the app is accurate // extended = 3 service providers have verified that the identity and the person are one and the same.

I know I'm probably asking to inside information and do understand if this can't be delivered, but I like the idea behind the app and as far as I can see the design of it, I'm now getting more and more curious about the methods of how

We will publish more details soon. Providers will choose a screening level that works for them. When a client tries to make contact they will need to meet the screening requirements before the provider is even notified. The provider will see what info they have provided: Employment Verified, ID verified, phone verified, Social Media linked (Example: Facebook (207 friends)). In some cases, the client can elect to keep this on file for providers that want to do their own screening. Then with one click the provider is receiving the original info the client submitted.

Providers will also see general notes by other providers that have seen that client in addition to the clients rating. The notes may be things about hygiene, peculiarities, punctuality or attitude while on date.


thnx for responding, that seems like a good worked out system Smiley

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October 26, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?

I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

There are no big established escort agencies operating in the US or Canada due to legality issues. There are a bunch of smaller ones with 10, 20 workers that get by because they maintain a low profile.

$200,000 is how much some individual escorts make annually. If we charged 10% and they used Pink exclusively, that's just 10 escorts. So I do not understand how you are arriving that the company is worth $200K. And you should realize that everyone disagrees with you. The only people that agree are the ones that view our system as fundamentally flawed and worth $0.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to convey.


Price valuations are hard to do, when there is no viable product available yet, nor any insight in how the software is going to work exactly.


LOL total nonsense.
Your platform you are going to deliver is worth $200.000 .
Not an established company.
Would also love to see which company is going to pay profit to the token holders.Oh i guess no company at all because its forbidden in the US ?
So people will have to belive on your word and SEC won't have any issues with your company being run in US/CA .

LOL never saw such dumb people .

Hey which company is selling the token BTW ?
I don't see any company info......
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October 26, 2017, 06:43:23 PM
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$55.000.000

for such an escort service ? LOL
Even the $5.000.000 are way to high.
For that price you could already buy a big established one.

Your platform and app is max worth $200.000 .So where is the rest of the money going ?




I don't know from where you got your prices but the benefit for investors won't be much if there even will be some at such a price.

That's the maximum though isn't it? I'm sure I could think of plenty of uses for that much money, I wonder how much Ashley Madison spent on advertising? I saw their ads EVERYWHERE for a while.


You surely could use it to lose it

Well, if you know what you're doing advertising isn't just "losing" money.
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October 26, 2017, 06:43:56 PM
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Its super cool dude....
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October 26, 2017, 11:47:29 PM
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LOL total nonsense.
Your platform you are going to deliver is worth $200.000 .
Not an established company.
Would also love to see which company is going to pay profit to the token holders.Oh i guess no company at all because its forbidden in the US ?
So people will have to belive on your word and SEC won't have any issues with your company being run in US/CA .

LOL never saw such dumb people .

Hey which company is selling the token BTW ?
I don't see any company info......


I guess that is the misunderstanding. We're creating a company, not a platform. It is an EJC (extrajurisdictional company) and thus not listed in the US or Canada. You might as well say Bitcoin BTC isn't a currency because there's no country issuing it.
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October 27, 2017, 06:23:34 AM
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Whats your companies name ?
What is your personal name ?



People going soon to police will be asked to which company or person they send their funds.

Their reply will be : I don't know.


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October 27, 2017, 05:40:04 PM
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Whats your companies name ?
What is your personal name ?



People going soon to police will be asked to which company or person they send their funds.

Their reply will be : I don't know.


Cheesy

What? That didn't make any sense.
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October 27, 2017, 08:25:17 PM
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Whats your companies name ?
What is your personal name ?

People going soon to police will be asked to which company or person they send their funds.

Their reply will be : I don't know.

Cheesy

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I do not understand the rest of your comment. If you mean large institutional investors, then you are right. We will not meet their requirements like FINRA. Such investors would need to make personal investments or pass on Pink. If you mean someone else please explain in detail because I am not understanding.
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