Sorry, off topic but lets get it out of the way.

Whats the difference between an ICO and a presale ICO? Isnt both one and the same? If you are opening the presale ICO to a select people then that makes it look more suspicious.

I know that you are looking for funds to start your project but why is there a need for a token? There are other ways to fund your project without a token. Burst has a crowdfunding feature that you might find very useful. ICOs are starting to get banned in China and South Korea and soon maybe in the US.

I have to admit theres not much value in crowdfunding using Burst at this moment because the price is going down. But the platform itself is good and stable enough for startups like yours to use.

Ok, lets get this straight. The reason for you to have the presale is to have them held by the buyers, then have it listed, and then start the ICO while its traded in an exchange?

Why would you do that?

Hi there..

Our pre-sale started today. So the ball is now in motion.

To answer your question, one of the main drivers of a coins value is the ability to exchange it for other cryptocurrency.. if you bought it for ETH, you may want to sell it. Thus the exchanges are critical. Its seems that to get a coin listed is a huge task from inception.  For us in the gaming world, we would like our coin holders to exchange freely with other related game and content tokens like BATS, RENDR, Dmarket, OTOYO.

Its obvious that coins like OMG, EOS, GNOSIS and others have a really active market and are really good for their token owners. From EtherScan:

OmiseGO
OmiseGO (OMG) is a public Ethereum-based financial technology for use in mainstream digital wallets    $7.6541
0.00159516 Btc
0.025745 Eth

   0.92%   $752,493,012   
 2.       
Qtum
Build Decentralized Applications that Simply Work Executable on mobile devices, compatible with major existing blockchain ecosystem    $11.6380
0.00242543 Btc
0.039144 Eth

   2.28%   $686,642,000   
 3.       
MKR - Maker
Maker is a Decentralized Autonomous Organization that creates and insures the dai stablecoin on the Ethereum blockchain    $243.4038
0.0506217719 Btc
0.818687 Eth

   --   $243,403,828   
 4.       
EOS
Infrastructure for Decentralized Applications    $0.5608
0.00011687 Btc
0.001886 Eth

   -5.39%   $221,532,315   
 5.       
TenXPay
TenX connects your blockchain assets for everyday use. TenX’s debit card and banking licence will allow us to be a hub for the blockchain ecosystem to connect for real-world use cases.    $1.8922
0.00039434 Btc
0.006364 Eth

   1.60%   $198,036,991   
 6.       
REP - Augur
Augur combines the magic of prediction markets with the power of a decentralized network to create a stunningly accurate forecasting tool    $17.9192
0.00373445 Btc
0.060271 Eth

   -5.80%   $197,111,200   
 7.       
Bat - Basic Attention Token
The Basic Attention Token is the new token for the digital advertising industry.    $0.1875
0.00003908 Btc
0.000631 Eth

   -2.09%   $187,528,000   
 8.       
Kyber Network Crystal (KNC)
KyberNetwork is a new system which allows the exchange and conversion of digital assets.    $1.3092
0.00027284 Btc
0.004403 Eth

   -15.85%   $180,659,700   
 9.       
GOLEM (GNT)
Golem is going to create the first decentralized global market for computing power    $0.1882
0.00003921 Btc
0.000633 Eth

   -2.96%

The funny thing is that the 5 or 6 ICO's i bought into I still have yet to see the value on any exchange. I bought KIKO, DENT, DROP and others and cant find out where I can trade them?

What experience have you had?

You should consider hiring a Digital marketing agency like Mine, that has specifically helped other ICOs in the past to close millions of dollars in funding.

What the average budget for Marketing agency?

Yes. exactly. How much?

Hi thanks again for you support here..!

1) Will check DENT on Hitbtc.. looks like an exchange i overlooked.. 

2) Support - we gave and email support - our system is tied to ID'ng using a blockchain HASH ID.. so anyone who has an issues i cant track their actions using their email. This was a massive integration. For Chat we choose telegram.. https://t.me/spacium_spc for realtime .. this is good becuae it hits all our devices and we can respond super fast. We decided not do slack because of security risk.. there was an ICO that got hacked.. i think it was because they use the same passwords for all thier log ins.. (FYI - refresh all your logins befire you launch . We also have Twitter and Facebook.. but with FB we limit who can post.. FB tends to flame .. and troll ICO's .. FYI..

3) Showing advisors-- we decided to keep it to the team on our main website until we get the proper funding.. we feel that for our Sale .. it would be important to show our top team.. + BC advisory..

4) Marketing Agency - Cost - So as I see it.. part of our pre-sale actually 60-70% will go to marketing our sale. (its in the white paper) .. The key is the marketing mix:
a- PR - press releases, interviews, editorial not paid - I have a quote from NYC firm for $10k/month for 6 months
b- Advertising -
     1) Email Marketing - (not spam) - dont do this directly let a service or media brand do it.. if you get spam listed.. your done. of budget i would say 15%
     2) Search Marketing - Keywords - 10%
     3) Display Marketing - banners and rich media - web based.. google adwords .-- 15%
     4) Social Media Marketing - paid ads and re-targeting - 10%

c- Listings, placements and special projects - we have been getting a slew of offers some from the most popular media - 40% - this seems the main way ICO gets traction


So to answer the qurestion a media agency can cost between $10k-$20k per month + Media cost - in this case I would estimate +$30-$50k .. for the duration of the ICO.