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October 10, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm kind of frightened that I fucked up my money Sad

I wanted to transfer 0.77648101 to my bitconnect wallet today (10/10/17 14:34 UTC+1) like 10 hours ago.
But appearantly my fee was too low (TX: 7158d490962117a63b5688cd267fdea79cc9d186b12b61708d938188c4ee7b1b).
It didn't get through....though it showed in the online wallet as "incoming".

Then I read that I could cancel this transaction and start again with a higher fee to process faster.

I followed a tutorial here at bitcointalk, where it told me to delete the mempool.dat file and start the Bitcoin Core wallet with this parameter "-walletbroadcast=0".
I did it and finally could cancel the transaction. It immediately showed my BTC back in the wallet.

Then I tried to transfer it again...but it doesn't get into the blockchain (for example: a23275e9abf47d5e34c734b86a5568a2c4791140e34ffcfb5d4c3a0fa3d653aa)
... did I lose my 4k USD?
Can somebody try to help me?

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October 10, 2017, 08:26:26 PM
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It's all right, you did NOT lose anything.

Your transaction is still in the mempool. Other peers of the network still know about your previous transaction.
So, either it confirms within the next few days and thereby it arrives at your destination address, or it gets 'forgotten' from the mempool.

Wait a few days and rebroadcast it again if it does not appear at the destination.

You could also enable the "Replace By Fee" option next time, to be able to rebroadcast it directly.

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October 10, 2017, 08:28:52 PM
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But I tried to transfer it again and it's not showing in Blockchain.
And it's still under incoming transfer at the online wallet.

Should I cancel this again and perhaps "-zapwallettxes" option to fully clear all unconfirmed transactions?

//Edit: Does Bitcoin Core Wallet have this RBF Feature? Didn't see a checkbox Smiley
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October 10, 2017, 08:30:29 PM
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But I tried to transfer it again and it's not showing in Blockchain.
And it's still under incoming transfer at the online wallet.

Should I cancel this again and perhaps "-zapwallettxes" option to fully clear all unconfirmed transactions?

Yeah, because your old transaction is still pending and not removed from the mempool.
A few days later it should be possible.

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October 10, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
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//Edit: Does Bitcoin Core Wallet have this RBF Feature? Didn't see a checkbox Smiley

Yes, but it has to be activated via commandline (don't know if it is default on already, in 0.14 it was default off...)

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October 10, 2017, 08:32:27 PM
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Just look here, your old transaction is still pending:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7158d490962117a63b5688cd267fdea79cc9d186b12b61708d938188c4ee7b1b

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October 10, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
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Yeah I see... so should I also cancel the last try to send it to the wallet as it won't get confirmed either?
I thought if I cancel it, I can resend it immediately :/
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October 10, 2017, 08:53:42 PM
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Yeah I see... so should I also cancel the last try to send it to the wallet as it won't get confirmed either?
I thought if I cancel it, I can resend it immediately :/

You don't need to cancel your last try because it wasn't even accepted by the network at all.
Just remove it out of Bitcoin Core with zapwallettx or similar.
No, you can't 'cancel' transactions once they are broadcasted, the only thing that works is waiting until they're removed from the mempools of the majority of nodes in the network.

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October 10, 2017, 08:56:20 PM
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And you can check your transaction at the link above, as soon as it doesn't exist anymore, it's time for a resend.

But I guess that it will eventually get accepted, without resending it.

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October 10, 2017, 09:08:34 PM
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How did this pan out?
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October 10, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
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The problem is, that I can't use my wallet at all right now.... that's kind of terribad Sad
Every transaction I do, even after I got some new money in, won't leave the wallet...
Is it because he eventually transfers some of it from the "ghost" btc?
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October 10, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
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The problem is, that I can't use my wallet at all right now.... that's kind of terribad Sad
Every transaction I do, even after I got some new money in, won't leave the wallet...
Is it because he eventually transfers some of it from the "ghost" btc?

Probably yes. What you can do is Settings->Wallet->Enable Coin Control, restart core, then you can specify exactly which coins should be used when doing a transaction. Just tick the addresses at which your new money arrived.

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October 10, 2017, 10:01:07 PM
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Perfect, that worked...i try some transaction accelerators, perhaps it helps either to complete or dismiss my payment Smiley
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October 10, 2017, 10:04:02 PM
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Perfect, that worked...i try some transaction accelerators, perhaps it helps either to complete or dismiss my payment Smiley

Your fee is 40 sat/byte, which is too low for most accelerators.
There will be times when there are fewer transactions pending, then your tx will get confirmed. Many mining pools also prioritize older transactions, so be patient...

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October 10, 2017, 10:07:18 PM
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Okay, thanks for your help Smiley
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October 10, 2017, 10:08:51 PM
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Okay, thanks for your help Smiley

Sure.
Just a tip for your privacy: Create a different receive address for each received payment. In your image "Goingbig" was just used multiple times for receiving funds.

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October 10, 2017, 10:29:57 PM
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But wouldn't that increase the KB size (and fee) of a transaction if I send it all from the different subwallets? Like the additionals coin control fee.
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October 11, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
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But wouldn't that increase the KB size (and fee) of a transaction if I send it all from the different subwallets? Like the additionals coin control fee.
No. Bitcoin does not actually work with addresses or balances. It works on transaction outputs. Every time you receive a payment, it creates a transaction output. When you want to spend you spend those transaction outputs. Receiving 100 payments to one address creates 100 outputs, likewise receiving 100 payments to 100 addresses is still 100 outputs.

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October 11, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
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Then I read that I could cancel this transaction and start again with a higher fee to process faster.
You misunderstood whatever you read... or whatever you read was wrong.

You cannot "cancel" a transaction. Once it is broadcast to the network, there is nothing you can do to remove it. It will either confirm (possibly after a LONG delay ie. days)... or the various nodes on the network will eventually drop it from their mempools and the transaction will disappear.

All you did was remove the transaction from your wallet... you didn't (and can't) remove it from the mempools of other nodes. Then when you attemped to respend, the network would likely have rejected your new transaction as a "double spend" as it still had your original pending transaction using the same inputs.

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October 13, 2017, 05:23:22 AM
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Either your transaction would get confirmed within the next few days or else,you would get back your BTC again in your wallet itself.

Instead of what you have done in panic,you could have just tries any of the transaction accelerators out of which,even some are free which were offered in service section of this forum.

I'm using such transaction accelerators for my transactions to get confirmed.It was very useful for me when the transaction fee became very high due to spam transactions in the network during BU creation.

Even with very low transaction fee,you could get your transactions confirmed by using such services.


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