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October 12, 2017, 01:14:34 PM
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Hello dears

I saw this address in my electrum :
13HJKEZ5KKTqMSJwXPh9G5dsiiHwvjdbYC

but it doesn't receive any fund, and I can't see the funds for this address

however the link below shows This address got some transactions,
What should I do?
Is it possible to add this address to transactions?


https://blockchain.info/address/13HJKEZ5KKTqMSJwXPh9G5dsiiHwvjdbYC
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October 12, 2017, 01:18:13 PM
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Hello dears

I saw this address in my electrum :
13HJKEZ5KKTqMSJwXPh9G5dsiiHwvjdbYC

but it doesn't receive any fund, and I can't see the funds for this address

however the link below shows This address got some transactions,
What should I do?
Is it possible to add this address to transactions?


https://blockchain.info/address/13HJKEZ5KKTqMSJwXPh9G5dsiiHwvjdbYC

All unspent outputs that could be spend were already spend. In laymen term's, you've spent all BTC that was sent to this address.
However, you should see the transaction history, if you're looking at the history tab. You should see you received about 0.06 BTC yesterday, then spent this amount in 6 transactions. The end result is 0 available unspent outputs tough.

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October 12, 2017, 01:21:26 PM
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How I spend all of this btc?
I never spent them
What is the matter?
Can you explain more?
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October 12, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
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For me, it shows that the specified address doesn't contain any bitcoins. It has received bitcoins previousely, but they have been used in another transaction, so the wallet is emtpy.
You might already have used it previousely. What electrum does, is that it creates new addresses for new transactions, so that you stay anonimous.

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October 12, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
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How I spend all of this btc?
I never spent them
What is the matter?
Can you explain more?

The address was funded yesterday, using transaction 82e268cbdd8132651a95c185d99da2f1e737f7ee1a921b7adb126e3c9495ab8b . At this point, the balance was around 0.06
You've then sent some BTC to yourself with transaction e60307743aaca4dab2e581e9ea04958216b472a9582c56429902287b12b08071, you've lost 0.00097681 to the fees
You've then sent  0.00124594 BTC to 36GkYVh2AUGYd7ohZawGWrZ5vY5xV2HiGn in transaction 7ca2a6c254c537eaee641d721ca738be5dd076fec520cb6f54222abf153ebaa5
You've then sent  0.00037378 to 1CTq4VfxBGuCz8QvCcwzzn23iUn25VZb92 in tx b61d16faf418417f9012921f629a5ba8acb5a732086171e216a96f72832eb107
You've then sent  0.0004963 to 19yLuiC8wEJFssWQKTHxt55Qcubtj3BqKU in tx 14020bbc1bdcbd31d51470f469ddf99275ea9ee4dfb236a30f1b38df32cd7e81
You've then sent 0.00207241 to 1Bs5kN8ptteNzQT6n4EzvRjzoouVthNhUA in tx 1a336c0c409ad018a57bf740ca15b0557ce53784b1e4cab53d7b7bc31f6d3563
You've then sent 0.00934457 to 1CL7A6eBeh9pFLCoLvUuPKNXKgYGjfFqfP in tx af8fee3486cf76cac8ce35d750326938144014657e132f16d4e90e9392a1bb66
You've then sent  0.01099 to 1BeDLqVTVJdJin8Nz1h424yKeoh2GhieEL and  0.035698 to 1JsYDaFnsHr6T3cxJJSGGqaZ5K2QM1f8nB in tx 8f79ce1f8fc6cbc49170f6651360749d8451051cc970fb0eda7c04cfd05eec0b

At this point all unspent outputs that could be spent by the owner of the private key whose private key hash results in address 13HJKEZ5KKTqMSJwXPh9G5dsiiHwvjdbYC have been used. In laymen's terms, you have spent your 0.06 BTC in 6 transactions.

If you do not remember making 6 transactions yesterday, you could have a virus.

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October 12, 2017, 01:27:52 PM
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so where is the those transfers shows on blockchain.info?
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October 12, 2017, 01:31:30 PM
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so where is the those transfers shows on blockchain.info?

here you go:

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October 12, 2017, 01:34:13 PM
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now the question is who spend or transfer these funds to these addresses?
I didn't do that
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October 12, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
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now the question is who spend or transfer these funds to these addresses?
I didn't do that

There are 3 possiblity's:
- you sent out the btc
- a hacker is robbing you
- somebody is sending out these coins "on accident", for example your spouse who's using your wallet instead of his/hers.


If i look at the amounts, at first sight it would be odd behaviour for a hacker. If a hacker hacks your pc/wallet, he usually steals everything in one transaction. It lowers the chances he'll get detected before completing the robbery, and it saves him from some fees. There were 13 minutes between the first and the last transaction, since the last transaction was the biggest one, it would have been a dumb thing to do from a hackers point of view (13 minutes would have given you ample time to notice something was wrong, and send those leftover BTC to a clean wallet).
Altough it's not impossible you were robbed, i'd take an educated guess and say it's probably the first or the last possibility in my list.

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October 12, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
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I used the private key for main addresses insted of change addresses
this can be the reason of this issue?

If you were playing around with private keys without keeping tracks of which inputs were used and which outputs were generated, it might result in something like this, yes.


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October 12, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
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so where is the those transfers shows on blockchain.info?

here you go:


that also happened to me when i checked my btc addres on the blockchain. i see my address is sending to some other btc adress but i dont actually send it. and also it shows that my balance is high but my balance on my bitcoin wallet is actually low.

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October 12, 2017, 01:48:13 PM
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so what can we do for money and also is there any solution?
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October 12, 2017, 02:11:32 PM
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so what can we do for money

Get a job.

and also is there any solution?

  • Stop using that wallet.
  • Make sure you get rid of any and all viruses and malware on that computer.
  • Install a new wallet.
  • Be more careful next time.

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October 12, 2017, 02:30:39 PM
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http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/10/12/bitcoin.jpg
dear if you see on black box in right we can see the balance for the address but it doesn't show on the electrum
there is not anyway to got these funds?
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October 12, 2017, 03:09:44 PM
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dear if you see on black box in right we can see the balance for the address but it doesn't show on the electrum
there is not anyway to got these funds?

Dear if you read the posts others already made in this thread, you'll see that:
  • The BALANCE for the address is 0
  • Those funds are already got

That balance (0.062784 BTC) that you are pointing out in your pasted image was sent to that address using transaction 82e268cbdd8132651a95c185d99da2f1e737f7ee1a921b7adb126e3c9495ab8b on 2017-10-11 at 07:48 UTC.

Then, approximately 2 hours and 39 minutes later, someone used 0.00097681 BTC of those funds when they sent transaction e60307743aaca4dab2e581e9ea04958216b472a9582c56429902287b12b08071 on 2017-10-11 at 10:27 UTC

This left only 0.06180719 BTC remaining as a balance at that address.  Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 6 minutes later, someone sent 0.00124594 BTC of the remaining funds to address 36GkYVh2AUGYd7ohZawGWrZ5vY5xV2HiGn and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00150755 BTC) using transaction 7ca2a6c254c537eaee641d721ca738be5dd076fec520cb6f54222abf153ebaa5 on 2017-10-11 at 10:33 UTC

This left only 0.06029964 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00037378 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1CTq4VfxBGuCz8QvCcwzzn23iUn25VZb92 and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00063539 BTC) using transaction b61d16faf418417f9012921f629a5ba8acb5a732086171e216a96f72832eb107 on 2017-10-11 at 10:33 UTC

This left only 0.05966425 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 6 minutes later, someone sent 0.0004963 BTC of the remaining funds to address 19yLuiC8wEJFssWQKTHxt55Qcubtj3BqKU and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00075791 BTC) using transaction 14020bbc1bdcbd31d51470f469ddf99275ea9ee4dfb236a30f1b38df32cd7e81 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.05890634 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00207241 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1Bs5kN8ptteNzQT6n4EzvRjzoouVthNhUA and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00233402 BTC) using transaction 1a336c0c409ad018a57bf740ca15b0557ce53784b1e4cab53d7b7bc31f6d3563 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.05657232 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00934457 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1CL7A6eBeh9pFLCoLvUuPKNXKgYGjfFqfP and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00960618 BTC) using transaction af8fee3486cf76cac8ce35d750326938144014657e132f16d4e90e9392a1bb66 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.04696614 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 1 minute later, someone sent ALL of the remaining 0.04696614 BTC in a single transaction. That transaction split that balance between two addresses.  0.01099 BTC was sent to address 1BeDLqVTVJdJin8Nz1h424yKeoh2GhieEL, and 0.035698 BTC was sent to address 1JsYDaFnsHr6T3cxJJSGGqaZ5K2QM1f8nB. The transaction paid a transaction fee of 0.00027814 BTC.  This happened with transaction 8f79ce1f8fc6cbc49170f6651360749d8451051cc970fb0eda7c04cfd05eec0b on 2017-10-11 at 10:40 UTC

This left only 0 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

And that is why you "can't see the funds for this address".  They are gone.  They have all been sent in transactions.

If you sent those transactions, then you know why the bitcoins aren't there.
If you did not send those transactions, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

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October 12, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
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dear if you see on black box in right we can see the balance for the address but it doesn't show on the electrum
there is not anyway to got these funds?

Dear if you read the posts others already made in this thread, you'll see that:
  • The BALANCE for the address is 0
  • Those funds are already got

That balance (0.062784 BTC) that you are pointing out in your pasted image was sent to that address using transaction 82e268cbdd8132651a95c185d99da2f1e737f7ee1a921b7adb126e3c9495ab8b on 2017-10-11 at 07:48 UTC.

Then, approximately 2 hours and 39 minutes later, someone used 0.00097681 BTC of those funds when they sent transaction e60307743aaca4dab2e581e9ea04958216b472a9582c56429902287b12b08071 on 2017-10-11 at 10:27 UTC

This left only 0.06180719 BTC remaining as a balance at that address.  Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 6 minutes later, someone sent 0.00124594 BTC of the remaining funds to address 36GkYVh2AUGYd7ohZawGWrZ5vY5xV2HiGn and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00150755 BTC) using transaction 7ca2a6c254c537eaee641d721ca738be5dd076fec520cb6f54222abf153ebaa5 on 2017-10-11 at 10:33 UTC

This left only 0.06029964 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00037378 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1CTq4VfxBGuCz8QvCcwzzn23iUn25VZb92 and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00063539 BTC) using transaction b61d16faf418417f9012921f629a5ba8acb5a732086171e216a96f72832eb107 on 2017-10-11 at 10:33 UTC

This left only 0.05966425 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 6 minutes later, someone sent 0.0004963 BTC of the remaining funds to address 19yLuiC8wEJFssWQKTHxt55Qcubtj3BqKU and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00075791 BTC) using transaction 14020bbc1bdcbd31d51470f469ddf99275ea9ee4dfb236a30f1b38df32cd7e81 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.05890634 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00207241 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1Bs5kN8ptteNzQT6n4EzvRjzoouVthNhUA and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00233402 BTC) using transaction 1a336c0c409ad018a57bf740ca15b0557ce53784b1e4cab53d7b7bc31f6d3563 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.05657232 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, at approximately that same time, someone sent 0.00934457 BTC of the remaining funds to address 1CL7A6eBeh9pFLCoLvUuPKNXKgYGjfFqfP and paid a transaction fee of 0.00026161 BTC (a total of 0.00960618 BTC) using transaction af8fee3486cf76cac8ce35d750326938144014657e132f16d4e90e9392a1bb66 on 2017-10-11 at 10:39 UTC

This left only 0.04696614 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

Then, approximately 1 minute later, someone sent ALL of the remaining 0.04696614 BTC in a single transaction. That transaction split that balance between two addresses.  0.01099 BTC was sent to address 1BeDLqVTVJdJin8Nz1h424yKeoh2GhieEL, and 0.035698 BTC was sent to address 1JsYDaFnsHr6T3cxJJSGGqaZ5K2QM1f8nB. The transaction paid a transaction fee of 0.00027814 BTC.  This happened with transaction 8f79ce1f8fc6cbc49170f6651360749d8451051cc970fb0eda7c04cfd05eec0b on 2017-10-11 at 10:40 UTC

This left only 0 BTC remaining as a balance at that address. Did you send that transaction? If not, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

And that is why you "can't see the funds for this address".  They are gone.  They have all been sent in transactions.

If you sent those transactions, then you know why the bitcoins aren't there.
If you did not send those transactions, then someone else has access to your private key and they spent those bitcoins without your permission.

so could you say why we can not see any of these transactions on electrum history?
We don't have any of these transactions on electrum history
why?
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