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September 17, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
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Okay troll, this is my first and last reply to you, since I'll be putting you on my ignore list.

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3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.
[...]

Negotiation was not possible, since the Zerocoin team at JHU ignored my attempts to reach out for months, and I have credited them in the past, and will also credit them in the Anoncoin app when Zerocoin is released. Furthermore, they obviously no longer have a stake in libzerocoin, as they started from scratch to design a new system that they believe is better. I disagree with that belief since there is apparently no way to generate the parameters in a trustless manner, so I am building on their original system.

Also, it is not a trivial matter to add RSA UFO support (which I have completed a couple days ago), and integrate it into a working crypto-currency (which I am now working on). This is why no other coins have added Zerocoin, AFAIK.

I dont know if you mean that I'm the troll here but then your wrong. I bought some anc a while ago and heard some guy on ltb say that there was this problem with the zerocoin protocol. This guy was apparently some well respected brilliant coder etc so I took that for granted since I don't have the capability to understand the whitepaper myself.

With the latest price movement I visited this tread again and then I saw this guy's question what I was wondering myself. Still not understand if there is a solution, but maybe that because of my lack of knowledge regarding the topic. RSA and UFO says me nothing.. Huh could you explain? Just trying to understand it better to see if I should invest more  Smiley

You are not a troll, you are just a curious person.

I am the troll.

Still, something is not quite right about gnosis and this whole zc project.

The missed deadlines are trivial, there are enough other peculiarities that people should at least be cautious.

None of the questions I asked earlier were unreasonable, but the questions were either ignored or diverted.

I'll ask one of those questions again. Maybe it was covered somewhere and I missed it.

Question What exactly are gnosis's qualifications, and are there people who will vouch for him?

Zerocoin today is a month or two away, as it was last month and the month before. Gnosis has made it clear he wants cash up front for the project. He himself would not accept that his work would increase the value of anc enough to compensate him.

Or perhaps he does not have any savings and needs cash up front to pay bills? No money in the bank but a yifted cryptographer who will revo altcoins? I doubt it.

Again, some hint about your qualifications gnosis? A college degree in something?

Please be cautious people. I hold anc, still. But something does not seem right here.

Post under your real account and maybe someone will take you seriously.
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September 17, 2014, 03:25:07 AM
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You are not a troll, you are just a curious person.

I am the troll.

Still, something is not quite right about gnosis and this whole zc project.

The missed deadlines are trivial, there are enough other peculiarities that people should at least be cautious.

None of the questions I asked earlier were unreasonable, but the questions were either ignored or diverted.

I'll ask one of those questions again. Maybe it was covered somewhere and I missed it.

Question What exactly are gnosis's qualifications, and are there people who will vouch for him?

Zerocoin today is a month or two away, as it was last month and the month before. Gnosis has made it clear he wants cash up front for the project. He himself would not accept that his work would increase the value of anc enough to compensate him.

Or perhaps he does not have any savings and needs cash up front to pay bills? No money in the bank but a yifted cryptographer who will revo altcoins? I doubt it.

Again, some hint about your qualifications gnosis? A college degree in something?

Please be cautious people. I hold anc, still. But something does not seem right here.

It's great you are being cautious.  Here's how I see it:

1) Gnosis has already delivered on the RSA UFO project. 
2) Meeh vouches for him and has hired him to do other work for him. 
3) He has been contributing code for months (see github).

...I trust that he can pull this off, but I understand your hesitance.
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September 17, 2014, 03:31:40 AM
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You are not a troll, you are just a curious person.

I am the troll.

Still, something is not quite right about gnosis and this whole zc project.

The missed deadlines are trivial, there are enough other peculiarities that people should at least be cautious.

None of the questions I asked earlier were unreasonable, but the questions were either ignored or diverted.

I'll ask one of those questions again. Maybe it was covered somewhere and I missed it.

Question What exactly are gnosis's qualifications, and are there people who will vouch for him?

Zerocoin today is a month or two away, as it was last month and the month before. Gnosis has made it clear he wants cash up front for the project. He himself would not accept that his work would increase the value of anc enough to compensate him.

Or perhaps he does not have any savings and needs cash up front to pay bills? No money in the bank but a yifted cryptographer who will revo altcoins? I doubt it.

Again, some hint about your qualifications gnosis? A college degree in something?

Please be cautious people. I hold anc, still. But something does not seem right here.

It's great you are being cautious.  Here's how I see it:

1) Gnosis has already delivered on the RSA UFO project. 
2) Meeh vouches for him and has hired him to do other work for him. 
3) He has been contributing code for months (see github).

...I trust that he can pull this off, but I understand your hesitance.

Furthermore, if he can't pull it off then I think the Anon community will have no problem finding someone that can.
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Last edit: September 17, 2014, 04:07:41 AM by CoinHoarder
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Stop feeding these trolls please.


It's great you are being cautious.  Here's how I see it:

1) Gnosis has already delivered on the RSA UFO project.  
2) Meeh vouches for him and has hired him to do other work for him.  
3) He has been contributing code for months (see github).

...I trust that he can pull this off, but I understand your hesitance.

1) The rsa ufo project is nonsense.
2) Could meeh provide some details? Work gnosis has done? Qualifications?
3) Seen the github. Not impressed.


Question What exactly are gnosis's qualifications, and are there people who will vouch for him?

Zerocoin today is a month or two away, as it was last month and the month before. Gnosis has made it clear he wants cash up front for the project. He himself would not accept that his work would increase the value of anc enough to compensate him.

Or perhaps he does not have any savings and needs cash up front to pay bills? No money in the bank but a yifted cryptographer who will revo altcoins? I doubt it.

Again, some hint about your qualifications gnosis? A college degree in something?

Please be cautious people. I hold anc, still. But something does not seem right here.

Good point.
Zerocash improves on an earlier protocol, Zerocoin, developed by some of the same authors, both in functionality (Zerocoin only hides a payment's origin, but not its destination or amount) and in efficiency (Zerocash transactions are less than 1KB and take less than 6ms to verify).
Source: http://zerocash-project.org/

Authors and Sponsors: http://zerocash-project.org/about_us

How a lonely man could do better than a group of academics who work on the project a long time before him?
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September 17, 2014, 04:56:40 AM
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It's great you are being cautious.  Here's how I see it:

1) Gnosis has already delivered on the RSA UFO project. 
2) Meeh vouches for him and has hired him to do other work for him. 
3) He has been contributing code for months (see github).

...I trust that he can pull this off, but I understand your hesitance.

1) The rsa ufo project is nonsense.
2) Could meeh provide some details? Work gnosis has done? Qualifications?
3) Seen the github. Not impressed.
UNQUOTE:
1) Then stop bothering yourself and others.
2)  Meeh has already vouched for his capabilities and commitments to the extent that some in the community are ready to pay Gnosis. That's nothing to be very effed about!
3) Impression is not objective but subjective. The world this community lives in sees umpteen examples of capability transcending credentials. Can't be said the same for you it seems.  Gnosis is not long to deliver......keep your slandering bottled till he fails.
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September 17, 2014, 05:03:36 AM
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It's great you are being cautious.  Here's how I see it:

1) Gnosis has already delivered on the RSA UFO project. 
2) Meeh vouches for him and has hired him to do other work for him. 
3) He has been contributing code for months (see github).

...I trust that he can pull this off, but I understand your hesitance.

1) The rsa ufo project is nonsense.
2) Could meeh provide some details? Work gnosis has done? Qualifications?
3) Seen the github. Not impressed.

Yeah.... if you posted on your real account, someone might take you seriously.

Who the hell are you and what are your credentials/qualifications?  Why would anyone
care about what you have to say about rsa ufo?  Why would we care whether you
are impressed?

Good luck with whatever scam coin you are worried about.

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September 17, 2014, 05:08:51 AM
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Give Gnosis a chance to respond, although it seems he is hard at work so that might take a while. Personal transparency might be a big ask, considering we're talking about a revolutionary anonymous currency project. Satoshi didn't reveal his identity and few blame him for that. To the people with doubts, I suggest going through his previous comments in bitcointalk and reddit to learn a bit more.
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September 17, 2014, 06:19:41 AM
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Gnosis, thanks for your post, it is not that hard, right?  Wink

Troll/s got the attention more than he could have imagined.
Much attention to him he did not have afforded nor from his loved ones.

I suggest everyone to refrain from answering trolls. We feed them that way.
Important is that they follow us, and that's good!

Means that they haven't bought and maybe wanted to buy at 0.0005 / sell at low price,
or they expect the success of their coin, based on the lies here on ANC thread.

Why would supporter of ANC made new profile account and asks normal questions,
or by questions spreading lies with non existent facts?!
 
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September 17, 2014, 06:58:31 AM
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If you guys don't trust Gnosis you have doubts about Meeh.
Doubting both and you still invest in ANC  Huh

If you don't trust in the Devs you should not be in Crypto at all.

It's not like Gnosis and Meeh don't have Commits in the Github, they do.

Be it as it may, leave if you think it's just another deadline being missed.

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September 17, 2014, 08:03:08 AM
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Here are some nice pretty tables from analyzing the RSA UFO project results, including ranking of UFO participants:


^ Yes, that's 8 years of total core time!  Shocked





More information will come after I sleep. Smiley

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September 17, 2014, 09:52:48 AM
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Now that we are getting close to seeing Zerocoin in action, we are thinking about translating the (new) website and wiki into a couple of different languages. Based on the political climate in China and Russia, I think that we should probably start with chinese and russian. Given that bitcoin is becoming increasingly important in South America, I think that we should probably concentrate on Spanish as well. How does this sound?

So, first, are there any native chinese, russian, or spanish speakers in this forum that would be willing to help out?

Second, we would either like to pay a community member to do this, or put out an ANC-per-word bounty. However, given the amount of ANC in the donation address, this wouldn't be too attractive, at least at the current ANC price.... If you want to help jump start this initiative, think about donating ANC to the project.

Lastly, I would just like to remind everyone that we still have about 700 ANC in bounties open. Details can be found here on the Anoncoin wiki.

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September 17, 2014, 10:23:53 AM
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I seem to be stuck on block #236310 & have been for days. It's been a couple weeks since I opened the wallet & hadn't had any issues before. Any ideas what might be the issue?
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September 17, 2014, 10:33:32 AM
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I seem to be stuck on block #236310 & have been for days. It's been a couple weeks since I opened the wallet & hadn't had any issues before. Any ideas what might be the issue?

If you are connected to enough nodes and tried restarting ... and waited long enough, there are 2 things you can do. Resynch or Delete the blockchain.

Windows:
HomeFolder -> AppData ->Roaming -> Anoncoin -> Delte "Blocks"
Linux:
~/.anoncoin -> delete "blocks"


My guess is that you didn't wait long enough for the program to find the blocks and closed it before..

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I seem to be stuck on block #236310 & have been for days. It's been a couple weeks since I opened the wallet & hadn't had any issues before. Any ideas what might be the issue?

If you are connected to enough nodes and tried restarting ... and waited long enough, there are 2 things you can do. Resynch or Delete the blockchain.

Windows:
HomeFolder -> AppData ->Roaming -> Anoncoin -> Delte "Blocks"
Linux:
~/.anoncoin -> delete "blocks"


My guess is that you didn't wait long enough for the program to find the blocks and closed it before..

I deleted the blockchain yesterday, & let it run all night. It got stuck @ 3 weeks back. Luckily I backed up the block chain & am back to block #236310 which is 12 day back.
Prior to that, I had just let it run for a couple days in the background hoping it would eventually sync.
Going through the debug file, I see nothing but "connection timeout" repeatedly.
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September 17, 2014, 10:56:17 AM
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I seem to be stuck on block #236310 & have been for days. It's been a couple weeks since I opened the wallet & hadn't had any issues before. Any ideas what might be the issue?

If you are connected to enough nodes and tried restarting ... and waited long enough, there are 2 things you can do. Resynch or Delete the blockchain.

Windows:
HomeFolder -> AppData ->Roaming -> Anoncoin -> Delte "Blocks"
Linux:
~/.anoncoin -> delete "blocks"


My guess is that you didn't wait long enough for the program to find the blocks and closed it before..

I deleted the blockchain yesterday, & let it run all night. It got stuck @ 3 weeks back. Luckily I backed up the block chain & am back to block #236310 which is 12 day back.
Prior to that, I had just let it run for a couple days in the background hoping it would eventually sync.
Going through the debug file, I see nothing but "connection timeout" repeatedly.


So can you see that you are connected to some nodes?

Maybe you activated i2p and are not connected to the darknet? ...Go to options, and check if you checked the box "enable i2p" if so .. uncheck it and run again.

Another thing might be... well not really, the Wallet connects to nodes via TCP port 8333


- Did you try to reinstall? =) Don't forget to backup your wallet then.

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September 17, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
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I seem to be stuck on block #236310 & have been for days. It's been a couple weeks since I opened the wallet & hadn't had any issues before. Any ideas what might be the issue?

If you are connected to enough nodes and tried restarting ... and waited long enough, there are 2 things you can do. Resynch or Delete the blockchain.

Windows:
HomeFolder -> AppData ->Roaming -> Anoncoin -> Delte "Blocks"
Linux:
~/.anoncoin -> delete "blocks"


My guess is that you didn't wait long enough for the program to find the blocks and closed it before..

I deleted the blockchain yesterday, & let it run all night. It got stuck @ 3 weeks back. Luckily I backed up the block chain & am back to block #236310 which is 12 day back.
Prior to that, I had just let it run for a couple days in the background hoping it would eventually sync.
Going through the debug file, I see nothing but "connection timeout" repeatedly.


So can you see that you are connected to some nodes?

Maybe you activated i2p and are not connected to the darknet? ...Go to options, and check if you checked the box "enable i2p" if so .. uncheck it and run again.

Another thing might be... well not really, the Wallet connects to nodes via TCP port 8333


- Did you try to reinstall? =) Don't forget to backup your wallet then.

I did a re-install & wallet back-up yesterday... still no luck.
I'm running it Tor only.
Here's what my config file lookiks like. Maybe something screwy in there:

blockminsize=0
blockmaxsize=1000000
blockprioritysize=1000000
proxy=127.0.0.1:9050
rpcuser=anoncoinrpc
rpcpassword=*xxxxxxxx*
daemon=1
server=1
onlynet=tor
tor=127.0.0.1:9050
addnode=m6xwmit3jovw34r2.onion
addnode=aqmdzilaqayzjb6o.onion
addnode=sf2px26xdsqphkef.onion
addnode=wwniwxrykmk2wtcw.onion
addnode=193.150.121.28
addnode=193.150.121.24
addnode=216.158.85.123
addnode=69.147.229.226
addnode=193.150.121.66
addnode=141.0.73.226
addnode=144.76.166.163
addnode=193.150.121.69
addnode=198.199.81.74
addnode=74.65.163.191
addnode=91.178.75.205
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September 17, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
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Also, gnosis, post your BTC, ANC addresses please

BTC: 14QnfqVG3CqLGBYHgD8tPYJVLxQ2AfvPEx
ANC: AU4hFCFZLhB2gTyG4VbaEurXGrTMNW2nu6

Sent 5.0 ANC (10% of my savings!) to gnosis. Anybody keeping track of how much more is needed?


Transaction ID: e0196433467570e006960470ee91469c8731e403dbb1fc01e7d53bf85a4611c6


You inspired me to do the same. Sent 36.8 ANC

feab115ccafd73f6b56259025b0d9d0e39bab85936e9c3c72531289232e81c92-000


I hope that all such endeavours inspire the devs to continue being stellar . Thanks a ton!

Hmm, after an hour it still says my transaction is unconfirmed. 0/6 confirmations. I don't understand what's wrong. I'm not too familiar with the ANC wallet, but I did the usual routine. Why isn't the network picking up my tx?

Mine too!!

Still hasn't been picked up. Tried restarting, deleting the blockchain e.tc.

Still 0/6 conf.

Any ideas? Will it return to my wallet if it doesn't get picked up, or stuck in limbo?

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
https://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
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Also, gnosis, post your BTC, ANC addresses please

BTC: 14QnfqVG3CqLGBYHgD8tPYJVLxQ2AfvPEx
ANC: AU4hFCFZLhB2gTyG4VbaEurXGrTMNW2nu6

Sent 5.0 ANC (10% of my savings!) to gnosis. Anybody keeping track of how much more is needed?


Transaction ID: e0196433467570e006960470ee91469c8731e403dbb1fc01e7d53bf85a4611c6


You inspired me to do the same. Sent 36.8 ANC

feab115ccafd73f6b56259025b0d9d0e39bab85936e9c3c72531289232e81c92-000


I hope that all such endeavours inspire the devs to continue being stellar . Thanks a ton!

Hmm, after an hour it still says my transaction is unconfirmed. 0/6 confirmations. I don't understand what's wrong. I'm not too familiar with the ANC wallet, but I did the usual routine. Why isn't the network picking up my tx?

Mine too!!

Still hasn't been picked up. Tried restarting, deleting the blockchain e.tc.

Still 0/6 conf.

Any ideas? Will it return to my wallet if it doesn't get picked up, or stuck in limbo?

Now it has confs for some reason. Glad that took care of itself.

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
https://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
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September 17, 2014, 01:51:33 PM
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Also, gnosis, post your BTC, ANC addresses please

BTC: 14QnfqVG3CqLGBYHgD8tPYJVLxQ2AfvPEx
ANC: AU4hFCFZLhB2gTyG4VbaEurXGrTMNW2nu6

Sent 5.0 ANC (10% of my savings!) to gnosis. Anybody keeping track of how much more is needed?


Transaction ID: e0196433467570e006960470ee91469c8731e403dbb1fc01e7d53bf85a4611c6


You inspired me to do the same. Sent 36.8 ANC

feab115ccafd73f6b56259025b0d9d0e39bab85936e9c3c72531289232e81c92-000


I hope that all such endeavours inspire the devs to continue being stellar . Thanks a ton!

Hmm, after an hour it still says my transaction is unconfirmed. 0/6 confirmations. I don't understand what's wrong. I'm not too familiar with the ANC wallet, but I did the usual routine. Why isn't the network picking up my tx?

Mine too!!

Still hasn't been picked up. Tried restarting, deleting the blockchain e.tc.

Still 0/6 conf.

Any ideas? Will it return to my wallet if it doesn't get picked up, or stuck in limbo?

1. Did you send it via Cryptsy?
2. If you sent it from your wallet-qt, load your wallet Backup from before when you made the transaction, and transfer again ( happened to me sometimes too...)
If you don't have the Wallet backup from before, export your privatekeys from every Address you have in your wallet, put them in a text file. Delete the wallet.dat file, start the program again and import all privkeys, restart... (always worked for me)

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September 17, 2014, 02:01:50 PM
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Okay troll, this is my first and last reply to you, since I'll be putting you on my ignore list.

[...]
3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.
[...]

Negotiation was not possible, since the Zerocoin team at JHU ignored my attempts to reach out for months, and I have credited them in the past, and will also credit them in the Anoncoin app when Zerocoin is released. Furthermore, they obviously no longer have a stake in libzerocoin, as they started from scratch to design a new system that they believe is better. I disagree with that belief since there is apparently no way to generate the parameters in a trustless manner, so I am building on their original system.

Also, it is not a trivial matter to add RSA UFO support (which I have completed a couple days ago), and integrate it into a working crypto-currency (which I am now working on). This is why no other coins have added Zerocoin, AFAIK.

I dont know if you mean that I'm the troll here but then your wrong. I bought some anc a while ago and heard some guy on ltb say that there was this problem with the zerocoin protocol. This guy was apparently some well respected brilliant coder etc so I took that for granted since I don't have the capability to understand the whitepaper myself.

With the latest price movement I visited this tread again and then I saw this guy's question what I was wondering myself. Still not understand if there is a solution, but maybe that because of my lack of knowledge regarding the topic. RSA and UFO says me nothing.. Huh could you explain? Just trying to understand it better to see if I should invest more  Smiley

You are not a troll, you are just a curious person.

I am the troll.

Still, something is not quite right about gnosis and this whole zc project.

The missed deadlines are trivial, there are enough other peculiarities that people should at least be cautious.

None of the questions I asked earlier were unreasonable, but the questions were either ignored or diverted.

I'll ask one of those questions again. Maybe it was covered somewhere and I missed it.

Question What exactly are gnosis's qualifications, and are there people who will vouch for him?

Zerocoin today is a month or two away, as it was last month and the month before. Gnosis has made it clear he wants cash up front for the project. He himself would not accept that his work would increase the value of anc enough to compensate him.

Or perhaps he does not have any savings and needs cash up front to pay bills? No money in the bank but a yifted cryptographer who will revo altcoins? I doubt it.

Again, some hint about your qualifications gnosis? A college degree in something?

Please be cautious people. I hold anc, still. But something does not seem right here.

No need to abandon ship yet. Lets give him some more time to respond.

I understand he could have valid reasons for not answering such questions here.

Therefore I recommend a Proof of Developer Analysis:
http://cryptoasian.com/
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