ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT B250 HD - cannot downvolt using Trixx and AB

[Marvell2]

Trying to replace my six gpu rigs with these boards I have two of them

everything seems to work , but when the its strange on both of these boards , rx 580 cards  I cannot change voltages on afterburner with these boards

I have the latest bios and everything, so its not that.  I have had other ASUS boards the 270-P boards and never seen this issue.

I also tried saphire trixx same deal , it does let you appear to change the voltages but when you look at the true voltage using GPU-Z its the same

any ideas ?

[philipma1957]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

[Marvell2]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

[philipma1957]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

I have some miners on widows and some on smos

the board you mention  is meant to use linux builds not windows 10

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4S86DX6876&cm_re=asus_b250_mining_expert_hd-_-13-119-028-_-Product


I am hesitant to call this board DOA, but this is my 10 mining rig I have built, and never had an issue from MSI or ASUS, but I have tested this thing with 2 different PSU that are working, and the board will not turn on. Is there anything special I need to do for this to behave like a typical motherboard?
zach m on Sep 26, 2017
BEST ANSWER: If you are using regular non-mining cards, this motherboard will not start with more then 13 GPUs.
Reply  Inaccurate   Andrew V on Oct 11, 2017


If using powered risers is there still a need to run 3 ATX to the MOBO? I noticed each ATX connects to ~6 PCI slots. Does each ATX signal the GPU's to power on when the MOBO initiates boot?
A shopper on Sep 26, 2017
BEST ANSWER: The MB is sectioned off into 3 zones (1-3); each zone makes up 6 pcie x1 slots with the 1 pcie x16 slot being assigned to last zone (zone 3); each zone of the the motherboard will require sufficient power per the number of gpus attached via risers (yes, even powered risers). From my experience, the 4pin (molex) atx plugs need to be supplied power via the primary power supply from zone 1 if you are powering gpus in zone 2 and/or 3; it appears to trigger startup/shutdown to each of other power supplies. If you had less than 6 gpus, you could power this power with a single power supply, or if you have only a few small power supplies you could split out your gpus accross all 3 zones ... OR you could go big and power the whole damn board. Happy mining


I have tried 8 Nvidia Cards with 8 AMD cards and it would not boot. The max it would take is 13 cards and it would go into windows. However when trying to run claymore it would only detect 8 nvidia and none of the 5 amd cards. Just hangs. Is it because I am using only 4gb ram? Disconnecting the 5 remaining amd cards and claymore works just fine with the 8 nvidia cards. Hashrates are sitting at about 19 per card which is less than typical Does anyone have any advice?
A shopper on Oct 15, 2017
BEST ANSWER: It has nothing to do with your ram, you're running Windows aren't you? Using Linux it's plug & play, no issues with any cards. Windows is not for large scale/professional mining with that many GPUs.


Is it possible to run 19 GPUs? I assume the 16 GPU limitation comes from the number of PCIE lanes available on the CPU?
Alfred S on Sep 19, 2017
BEST ANSWER: It is possible to run all 19 GPU's, the above quot of 16 GPU's actually refers to windows. With the drivers the way they are currently, Windows can run 8 x AMD GPU's and 8 x Nvidia GPU's so the total of 16. Now if you were to run linux, you can run 19 of any kind. But most mining specific OS's or the mining softwares do not yet support such a large number of cards, so you may need a regular flavor of Linux, and would have to run multiple mines, maybe 10 amd GPU's mining Ethereum, and 9 Nvidia GPU's mining Zcash etc.

[mutual.consent]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

What version AMD drivers are you using? Also have you tried something other than afterburner to undervolt - soft power play table or overdriventool? I seem to be able to undervolt my Vega in Windows with the beta blockchain drivers and the soft power play table mod and I have this motherboard. HWinfo at least shows lower volts and watt meter displays lower power draw.

[philipma1957]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

What version AMD drivers are you using? Also have you tried something other than afterburner to undervolt - soft power play table or overdriventool? I seem to be able to undervolt my Vega in Windows with the beta blockchain drivers and the soft power play table mod and I have this motherboard. HWinfo at least shows lower volts and watt meter displays lower power draw.

His cards may not work and yours do.

I used to mine with so many amd cards. And weird shit can happen.

Still op should try smos and nvoc0019 and not run huge mining rigs with windows .

I run a five card rig on Windows .and 7 Linux rigs

[Marvell2]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

I have some miners on widows and some on smos

the board you mention  is meant to use linux builds not windows 10

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4S86DX6876&cm_re=asus_b250_mining_expert_hd-_-13-119-028-_-Product


I am hesitant to call this board DOA, but this is my 10 mining rig I have built, and never had an issue from MSI or ASUS, but I have tested this thing with 2 different PSU that are working, and the board will not turn on. Is there anything special I need to do for this to behave like a typical motherboard?
zach m on Sep 26, 2017
BEST ANSWER: If you are using regular non-mining cards, this motherboard will not start with more then 13 GPUs.
Reply  Inaccurate   Andrew V on Oct 11, 2017


If using powered risers is there still a need to run 3 ATX to the MOBO? I noticed each ATX connects to ~6 PCI slots. Does each ATX signal the GPU's to power on when the MOBO initiates boot?
A shopper on Sep 26, 2017
BEST ANSWER: The MB is sectioned off into 3 zones (1-3); each zone makes up 6 pcie x1 slots with the 1 pcie x16 slot being assigned to last zone (zone 3); each zone of the the motherboard will require sufficient power per the number of gpus attached via risers (yes, even powered risers). From my experience, the 4pin (molex) atx plugs need to be supplied power via the primary power supply from zone 1 if you are powering gpus in zone 2 and/or 3; it appears to trigger startup/shutdown to each of other power supplies. If you had less than 6 gpus, you could power this power with a single power supply, or if you have only a few small power supplies you could split out your gpus accross all 3 zones ... OR you could go big and power the whole damn board. Happy mining


I have tried 8 Nvidia Cards with 8 AMD cards and it would not boot. The max it would take is 13 cards and it would go into windows. However when trying to run claymore it would only detect 8 nvidia and none of the 5 amd cards. Just hangs. Is it because I am using only 4gb ram? Disconnecting the 5 remaining amd cards and claymore works just fine with the 8 nvidia cards. Hashrates are sitting at about 19 per card which is less than typical Does anyone have any advice?
A shopper on Oct 15, 2017
BEST ANSWER: It has nothing to do with your ram, you're running Windows aren't you? Using Linux it's plug & play, no issues with any cards. Windows is not for large scale/professional mining with that many GPUs.


Is it possible to run 19 GPUs? I assume the 16 GPU limitation comes from the number of PCIE lanes available on the CPU?
Alfred S on Sep 19, 2017
BEST ANSWER: It is possible to run all 19 GPU's, the above quot of 16 GPU's actually refers to windows. With the drivers the way they are currently, Windows can run 8 x AMD GPU's and 8 x Nvidia GPU's so the total of 16. Now if you were to run linux, you can run 19 of any kind. But most mining specific OS's or the mining softwares do not yet support such a large number of cards, so you may need a regular flavor of Linux, and would have to run multiple mines, maybe 10 amd GPU's mining Ethereum, and 9 Nvidia GPU's mining Zcash etc.

MAN  thats  good to know thanks for the timely information, I guess its the board I won't buy any more.  I dont even want to do more than 10 cards not the full 16
but if i can't undervolt withoute using claymore or other software its not worth it for me to run these boards.

Is there another board with lots of slots that can run up to 16 cards ? that works on windows ?

[Marvell2]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

What version AMD drivers are you using? Also have you tried something other than afterburner to undervolt - soft power play table or overdriventool? I seem to be able to undervolt my Vega in Windows with the beta blockchain drivers and the soft power play table mod and I have this motherboard. HWinfo at least shows lower volts and watt meter displays lower power draw.

His cards may not work and yours do.

I used to mine with so many amd cards. And weird shit can happen.

Still op should try smos and nvoc0019 and not run huge mining rigs with windows .

I run a five card rig on Windows .and 7 Linux rigs

I have 20 rigs all running windows with no problems , I cant see myself switching to linux now , and I like afterburner for tweaking vs having to use claymore or some other tools to undervolt.

I have serveral 8 card rigs and one 9 card rig using the Asus 270 boards that work fine I just thing these mining expert boards like you said are hard wired for Linux ?

[philipma1957]

try simple mining software.  linux based

I think  you can get it to work.

https://simplemining.net/

it is 2 dollars per rig each month  but he will give you a free trial

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0

I like windows , sicne i use my machines for other purposes like web hosting file servers etc

Its just this certain board that is giving me these strange issues with undervolting cards .  I dont think i will order any more.

What version AMD drivers are you using? Also have you tried something other than afterburner to undervolt - soft power play table or overdriventool? I seem to be able to undervolt my Vega in Windows with the beta blockchain drivers and the soft power play table mod and I have this motherboard. HWinfo at least shows lower volts and watt meter displays lower power draw.

His cards may not work and yours do.

I used to mine with so many amd cards. And weird shit can happen.

Still op should try smos and nvoc0019 and not run huge mining rigs with windows .

I run a five card rig on Windows .and 7 Linux rigs

I have 20 rigs all running windows with no problems , I cant see myself switching to linux now , and I like afterburner for tweaking vs having to use claymore or some other tools to undervolt.

I have serveral 8 card rigs and one 9 card rig using the Asus 270 boards that work fine I just thing these mining expert boards like you said are hard wired for Linux ?

there is new bios due before the end of the year that should allow for bigger windows builds on that board.

but you never know when they do it.

[TokyoG]

I'm also finding that the hashrate is 10-15% lower than on my other boards.  Anyone else noticing this?  On ASrock & MSI mobo i can get 28+ mh/s but on this mobo i'm only getting 26mh/s.  I have tweaked the bios of my RX580s but can't get it up to 28+ mh/s

the lack of Afterburner support is a real bummer.  Anyone considering this board should wait and see if newer bios helps.

I do like that fact that new windows drivers allow for 12 AMD + 8nvidia card.  I guess this effectively killed the market for P106-100 cards.

[fgregc]

Trying to replace my six gpu rigs with these boards I have two of them

everything seems to work , but when the its strange on both of these boards , rx 580 cards  I cannot change voltages on afterburner with these boards

I have the latest bios and everything, so its not that.  I have had other ASUS boards the 270-P boards and never seen this issue.

I also tried saphire trixx same deal , it does let you appear to change the voltages but when you look at the true voltage using GPU-Z its the same

any ideas ?

I am working thru the issues of 3 other problems in Win. I like the idea of this board and it's stability compared to the HT110 is night and day, maybe afternoon. The nice thing about this MB is its ability to monitor the 19 PCIe connections and display that during POST. Also, plug in your HDMI into the MB's display out. I understand Windows being Windows, but on POST u can at least see if your dealing with a riser, 80% chance, or the GPU. I have found that installing AMD cards first helps ok at first, after installing AMD and then installing Nvidia last and after a couple boots, u have just wigged out Win completely, then I see no problems until you get to the OC software like EVGA and Zotac. They cant play together and it becomes more of a headache. Zotac will accept the 1070ti amp extreme and allow you to overclock, it allowed me to overclock, 530 SOL's, and some more was left. However, when I installed the next, EVGA 1070, card Firestorm would take it and assign it GPU0 and the Zotac ti would move over to 1 and then 2 if you add more and loose the ability to OC and I would have to run MSI instead of either one, just try to tweak with the same adjustments.  The question I have is the possibility, with the stabilization capacitors on the PCIe zones, of isolating some of the flux that can creep out, of moving the AMD cards down to zone 3 and install my Nvidia cards on the first zone. But if someone has another idea which to use or not, would help.

[Grinner888]

I am having trouble with afterburner as well! I did get it to work briefly, but after several software/driver updates, the voltage control and monitoring function will not work again! so it is a motherboard issue? maybios update will solve it?