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First off all this is probably a civil case not a criminal case. Call a Police Station in MD.
Then I guess you could try to file a small claim in the state of CA or MD.
Finally, I have yet to hear of single case of where a bitcoin scammer was charge let alone convicted of scamming either civilly or criminally (although that may be changing).
See. My Bitcoin Bitfloor bitcoin.eu Bitcoinica.com Bitcoin Savings and Trust GLBSE etc. etc. etc.
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Here is my claim on the ASICMiner share purchased with address 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK Message: ryanAC is the owner of 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK I sent 1.8btc for Kruniac ASICMiner share on 06.15.2013 to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz txid 43a991e1073d5f81bac777ab11fb9085fe7138a031c8f7b0cd5dd748f1ad7e79 Sig: IKhpITgB/hKFnDm7cnmkSqf2v9f0I2ECazOe0zz459BnkgGSIU0hX192s7pLXvjz+tmLcZvva9nsYot7/SFDI64= And, as an added bonus, here are the signed message for the terms of our deal... --------MESSAGE-------- When the payment of 1.8 BTC is received by the address of : 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz A transfer request will be sent to Friedcat for one (1) ASICMiner direct share. The request will be made on behalf of the user ryanAC, controlling the address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv ---------------------------- Sig: HyD7yFtPR8KeqvzJZ6Hzd6M6yEZ576nfl1lRcNwZ8Ev0/QqrB/HCgovoe4rVgkG8nWFkp9lVuwJi9IRewsxPIM4= ...and then the transfer request... --------MESSAGE-------- My username is Kruniac (As you can see), controlling Bitcoin address: 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz I received one (1) share of ASICMiner via an auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223560.msg2364193#msg2364193I'd like to transfer ownership of my ASICMiner share to: User: ryanAC Address: 14WzWD9GP2Zq93h935JkhqY3dK91UtiyDv ------------------ Signature:H2/88WCvcOR1z6q2u9NxJz1sAN1iE0Q80HAWdrvVM8zNsO0mQJzZVE5iRQ+VK7A9bTHDE9o+bT99ORJHK/0yRXE=
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I spoke with the Sheriffs dept. in the County where he lives. This is very much illegal and is considered a felony if the sum of the counts total more than $1000 US. To pursue this through normal criminal channels, each claimant has to submit a police report in the jurisdiction in which they live. Assuming 10 claimants, that will be 10 counts of theft. This is unfortunate as I don't see enough of us actually following through with filing a police report. The Maryland PD will be contacted by each of the 10 respective police departments and will add to the charges a larger more serious charge (I can't remember what he called it). I think we have ample evidence, including concrete verification via chat log IP address. Once the ISP has been subpoena'd there won't be a question as to the identity of the thief. The Maryland PD already had him in their system. The officer I spoke to didn't mention his previous charges, but he did verify that the address etc. that I provided was correct. ------- The other option is to file a complaint with the IC3 ( https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx) This deparment works in conjunction with the FBI and has the ability to lump all of the instances of theft together across jurisdictional boundaries. My personal feeling is that each victim of this crime should file BOTH with local police and with the IC3.
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June 09, 2013, 09:10:21 PM |
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I spoke with the Sheriffs dept. in the County where he lives. This is very much illegal and is considered a felony if the sum of the counts total more than $1000 US. To pursue this through normal criminal channels, each claimant has to submit a police report in the jurisdiction in which they live. Assuming 10 claimants, that will be 10 counts of theft. This is unfortunate as I don't see enough of us actually following through with filing a police report. The Maryland PD will be contacted by each of the 10 respective police departments and will add to the charges a larger more serious charge (I can't remember what he called it). I think we have ample evidence, including concrete verification via chat log IP address. Once the ISP has been subpoena'd there won't be a question as to the identity of the thief. The Maryland PD already had him in their system. The officer I spoke to didn't mention his previous charges, but he did verify that the address etc. that I provided was correct. ------- The other option is to file a complaint with the IC3 ( https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx) This deparment works in conjunction with the FBI and has the ability to lump all of the instances of theft together across jurisdictional boundaries. My personal feeling is that each victim of this crime should file BOTH with local police and with the IC3. Thank you. This is very useful information.
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June 09, 2013, 09:40:22 PM |
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Btw, I live in Germany, and I will file a police report here.
Thank you guys for giving us a bit of hope back, you're great.
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Recover Schedule address | owner | amount | total scammed | % | Recovered | Refund | 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui | | 1.8 | 41.78663866 | 4% | 16.4 | 0.706445911 | 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK | ryanAC | 2.1 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.824186896 | td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D | hwmax | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | | 2.29663866 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.901361661 | | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 | | 2.45 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.961551378 | 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK | dhenson | 2.4 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.941927881 | 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd | wo0x | 2.35 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.922304383 | | Design Dream | 17.39 | 41.78663866 | 42% | 16.4 | 6.825052437 | | | | 41.78663866 | 100% | | | |
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above. These will be paid first.
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June 09, 2013, 10:01:40 PM |
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?
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June 09, 2013, 10:04:11 PM |
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Recover Schedule
date address proving owner amount of BTC Recovered Refund 6/5/2013 23:18 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui 1.8 41.78663866 4% 16.4 0.706445911 6/5/2013 18:53 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK 2.1 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.824186896 6/6/2013 0:55 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 2:20 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 3:53 2.29663866 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.901361661 6/6/2013 8:49 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 20:49 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/7/2013 1:34 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 2.45 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.961551378 6/7/2013 3:22 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/7/2013 6:03 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK dhenson 2.4 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.941927881 6/7/2013 9:23 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd wo0x 2.35 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.922304383 Design Dream 17.39 41.78663866 42% 16.4 6.825052437 41.78663866 100% If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above.
These will be paid first.
First, thank you very much for doing this BCB and a HUGE thank you to BigBitz for returning the funds. Everyone involved should throw forum TRUST at these two for their part in returning the bitcoins. Update: I've filed a police report with the local state trooper department here in Alaska. I've also filed a report through IC3 ( http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx) After talking to the local police department, they are going to follow up with the police dept. in Hagerstown MD. When filing your local reports, please instruct the officer to do the same. It doesn't really make much sense for 10 different police departments to conduct the investigation when the guy lives in MD. and they are aware of the situation.
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June 09, 2013, 10:06:00 PM |
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?
That would be me, I guess! Right before all these guys got scammed I bought 16coins from Kruanic by international wire - I was able to cancel that today and recover my money. Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some. We have a community where we need people to stick together! Let it also be clear there is around 35BTC people got scammed, I have 16..... I will need to make some decisions as to split this up fairly. I will be upfront and say none of you will get all your money back but you will get some!
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June 09, 2013, 10:10:06 PM |
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Right on! One of the few cases of instant karma.
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June 09, 2013, 10:10:46 PM |
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date address proving owner amount of BTC Recovered Refund 6/5/2013 23:18 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui 1.8 41.78663866 4% 16.4 0.706445911 6/5/2013 18:53 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK 2.1 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.824186896 6/6/2013 0:55 126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 2:20 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 3:53 2.29663866 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.901361661 6/6/2013 8:49 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/6/2013 20:49 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/7/2013 1:34 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 2.45 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.961551378 6/7/2013 3:22 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD 2.2 41.78663866 5% 16.4 0.863433891 6/7/2013 6:03 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK dhenson 2.4 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.941927881 6/7/2013 9:23 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd wo0x 2.35 41.78663866 6% 16.4 0.922304383 Design Dream 17.39 41.78663866 42% 16.4 6.825052437 41.78663866 100% If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above.
These will be paid first.
The bolded is mine, as shown here: https://blockchain.info/de/tx/48d506d00e0894b82cb67301fe5996cb24335ac83a0dd3a639b301fd2e9f7519https://i.imgur.com/0hvIoBQ.png?1The 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 address it was sent from is the localbitcoins ewallet so cannot accept payments back to it unless I'm mistaken, so I'd have to provide an alternate address if possible.
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June 09, 2013, 10:13:48 PM |
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Bloke likes to pose half naked... From his myspace. Aka Cainurk, apparently. More pictures there: http://s592.photobucket.com/user/Cainurk/library/?sort=3&page=1
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[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked.
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June 09, 2013, 10:22:14 PM |
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?
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Updated. Please claim the remaining addresses. If you can not sign an addy please post evidence you sent and a return address. Thx. Recover Schedule address | owner | amount | total scammed | % | Recovered | Refund | 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui | | 1.8 | 41.78663866 | 4% | 16.4 | 0.706445911 | 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK | ryanAC | 2.1 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.824186896 | td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D | hwmax | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | | 2.29663866 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.901361661 | | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 | | 2.45 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.961551378 | 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK | dhenson | 2.4 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.941927881 | 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd | wo0x | 2.35 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.922304383 | | Design Dream | 17.39 | 41.78663866 | 42% | 16.4 | 6.825052437 | | | | 41.78663866 | 100% | | | |
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above. These will be paid first.
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June 09, 2013, 10:25:55 PM |
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?
what address did you send to?
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June 09, 2013, 10:27:06 PM |
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I think it's great someone is steeping up and taking care of the people burnt in this situation. Can I ask who and why?
That would be me, I guess! Right before all these guys got scammed I bought 16coins from Kruanic by international wire - I was able to cancel that today and recover my money. Rather than keep 16 scammed coins I thought I can attempt to return some. We have a community where we need people to stick together! Let it also be clear there is around 35BTC people got scammed, I have 16..... I will need to make some decisions as to split this up fairly. I will be upfront and say none of you will get all your money back but you will get some! Well, I like your style
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June 09, 2013, 10:51:22 PM |
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so it is not already in the list??
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June 09, 2013, 11:19:27 PM |
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Bloke likes to pose half naked... What a shithole. Canned air and coffee. Breakfast of champions.
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