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October 22, 2017, 08:21:10 PM
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   Greetings to all good will people!

   Now, when the bunch of deceitful,  greedy,  incompetent,  irresponsible idiots from B2X (sorry for some harshness) are really endangering the Bitcoin,
  
   All of us who are smart enough and responsible should immediately start a Bitcoin core (best of all the latest 0.15.0.1 version) full node client!

   If until now you haven't started your own bitcoin core client - just do it right now!
   Believe me it is so simple!

   Personally I have been running mine for 3 months already.
   For those of you who perchance are afraid of keeping money in a wallet which is constantly connected to the Internet, and even accepting incoming connections (be sure to turn this option on),  I want to say that you do absolutely not need to store any money in your Core full node client!

   You may just keep somewhere offline just a key phrase for recovering your bitcoin private keys and addresses (your real wallet). Or you may run somewhere on another computer the electrum wallet,  or any other wallet that allows you, and no one else, have full control over your wallet's private keys.

  In my own full node bitcoin core 0.15.0.1 client,  for example, I keep absolutely no bitcoins at all.
  I run it solely for supporting the true bitcoin network!
  The most important thing is that your Bitcoin Core full node should be ONLINE as much as possible!

  (After you setup your Core full node do obligatorily check that you really have the 8333 port open and accessible from outside. You may check if your node is seen from outside here for example : https://bitnodes.21.co  

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October 23, 2017, 05:46:04 PM
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I actually didnt think about implement a full node on my computer, but Ill do it. Is not 24/7, but is something. I have a mining rig and a raspberry pi 24/7, but i dont have any free disk to use for that.
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October 23, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
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Bitcoin will be just fine, you are being paranoid. Running a full node always helps the network, it won't do anything special now. It isn't a voting system, it doesn't matter when it comes to forks. There might be a bit of lost connections during a fork as nodes start following different chain and disconnect, but this will last for a very short time and if you want to help for this purpose only then just run it during those 10 minutes when the fork happens.
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October 23, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
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Of course I hope all must be fine too.

But the b2x fork is not a usual hard fork producing an altcoin.

The problem with b2x is that they refuse to implement the replay protection!  They wish to make the whole decentralized community  comply to their (totally unnecessary) 2Mb sized blocks decision!
That's how I see it

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October 23, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
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Of course I hope all must be fine too.

But the b2x fork is not a usual hard fork producing an altcoin.

The problem with b2x is that they refuse to implement the replay protection!  They wish to make the whole decentralized community  comply to their (totally unnecessary) 2Mb sized blocks decision!
That's how I see it

I agree. That is how I see it as well. It is just that this is trivial for anyone to do and there is nothing we can do about it. It is their right to fork, that is my opinion, and if you just ignore their existance, they cause a very little harm to the network.

To be honest, it is pretty obvious that Bitcoin is can not be stopped. Not by a fork, not by a government, not even by shutting of the Internet. Bitcoin will be as good as ever, don't worry too much.
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October 23, 2017, 06:51:43 PM
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Aleksej996, I do very much like what you're saying!

Most of all I wish your words were really true!!


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October 23, 2017, 07:20:05 PM
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  Greetings to all good will people!

   Now, when the bunch of deceitful,  greedy,  incompetent,  irresponsible idiots and scoundrels from B2X (sorry for some harshness) are really endangering the Bitcoin,
  
   All of us who are smart enough and responsible should immediately start a Bitcoin core (best of all the latest 0.15.0.1 version) full node client!

   If until now you haven't started your own bitcoin core client - just do it right now!
   Believe me it is so simple!

   Personally I have been running mine for 3 months already.
   For those of you who perchance are afraid of keeping money in a wallet which is constantly connected to the Internet, and even accepting incoming connections (be sure to turn this option on),  I want to say that you do absolutely not need to store any money in your Core full node client!

   You may just keep somewhere offline just a key phrase for recovering your bitcoin private keys and addresses (your real wallet). Or you may run somewhere on another computer the electrum wallet,  or any other wallet that allows you, and no one else, have full control over your wallet's private keys.

  In my own full node bitcoin core 0.15.0.1 client,  for example, I keep absolutely no bitcoins at all.
  I run it solely for supporting the true bitcoin network!
  The most important thing is that your Bitcoin Core full node should be ONLINE as much as possible!

  (After you setup your Core full node do obligatorily check that you really have the 8333 port open and accessible from outside. You may check if your node is seen from outside here for example : https://bitnodes.21.co  

Yes i know how to run a bitcoin core remotely but i donot understand why you are using this abusive language towards the b2x developers.
They are implementing something that they thing will be good for bitcoin.
Support them or not is your personal issue and  choice ,but please try to be respectfull,they are doing their jobs you do yours. Angry Angry Angry
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October 23, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
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Cryptorony, the problem with b2x  supporters lies in dishonesty of their chosen methods.
As I said above:
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The problem with b2x is that they refuse to implement the replay protection!  They wish to make the whole decentralized community  comply to their (totally unnecessary) 2Mb sized blocks decision!
That's the main reason why I allowed myself the "abusive language" you critisized me for

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October 24, 2017, 04:34:23 AM
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OP, I tried running one last year but I have given up waiting for the sync to finish. I also thought about sending one Bitcoin in my unsynced wallet to give me more incentive to go through with it, but no.

How large is the blockchain, what is your bandwidth and how long until you synced your node?

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October 24, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
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  Greetings to all good will people!

   Now, when the bunch of deceitful,  greedy,  incompetent,  irresponsible idiots and scoundrels from B2X (sorry for some harshness) are really endangering the Bitcoin,
  
   All of us who are smart enough and responsible should immediately start a Bitcoin core (best of all the latest 0.15.0.1 version) full node client!

   If until now you haven't started your own bitcoin core client - just do it right now!
   Believe me it is so simple!

   Personally I have been running mine for 3 months already.
   For those of you who perchance are afraid of keeping money in a wallet which is constantly connected to the Internet, and even accepting incoming connections (be sure to turn this option on),  I want to say that you do absolutely not need to store any money in your Core full node client!

   You may just keep somewhere offline just a key phrase for recovering your bitcoin private keys and addresses (your real wallet). Or you may run somewhere on another computer the electrum wallet,  or any other wallet that allows you, and no one else, have full control over your wallet's private keys.

  In my own full node bitcoin core 0.15.0.1 client,  for example, I keep absolutely no bitcoins at all.
  I run it solely for supporting the true bitcoin network!
  The most important thing is that your Bitcoin Core full node should be ONLINE as much as possible!

  (After you setup your Core full node do obligatorily check that you really have the 8333 port open and accessible from outside. You may check if your node is seen from outside here for example : https://bitnodes.21.co  

Yuk; the 0.15 versions disconnect btc1 nodes and disrupt the network causing propogation delays. No thank you; want to be well connected to many different versions of nodes because it’s more redundant as some nodes even 0.15 have certain bugs. Your advice is very bad technically speaking.
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October 24, 2017, 05:47:11 AM
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How large is the blockchain, what is your bandwidth and how long until you synced your node?

Wind_FURY, I have just looked into the directory with my blockchain, it is now exactly 160 522 921 148 bytes.

My bandwidth is approximately 2.5Mb/s download and 1.5 Mb/s upload.

I started downloading the blockchain in June this year it seems to me it took for about 2-3 weeks.

But remember! The Bitcoin Core 0.15.0.1 version has got a newer database format, so it is downloaded much faster now!

And you know what? I am going to try to upload the whole blockchain to my Google drive (maybe from 2 my different accounts if Google drives have disk space limits) in a 7zip or rar archive formats. It seems to me anyone may then take the all ready blockchain folder, extract from the archive, and point to the folder when first starting the Bitcoin Core client

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October 24, 2017, 05:52:52 AM
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Yuk; the 0.15 versions disconnect btc1 nodes and disrupt the network causing propogation delays. No thank you; want to be well connected to many different versions of nodes because it’s more redundant as some nodes even 0.15 have certain bugs. Your advice is very bad technically speaking.

I totally disagree with you.

(of course anyone may have his/her own opinion

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October 24, 2017, 08:34:51 AM
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I am planing to run a full bit coin node. Is there a way to monetize to recover the cost of running the full node Huh

Rabbi1001,

In my opinion, the biggest monetization is the maintenance of the TRUE Bitcoin blockchain itself, the prospect and the gradual growth of Bitcoin's exchange rate is going to fully compensate you all of your costs.

Personally, my bitcoin core full node costs me almost nothing: the node is launched on my laptop that I set up to be always online (banned hibernation, sleep, automatic restarts after updates, all done through group policies).

It consumes very little energy, my home Internet channel is unlimited.

I disabled torrents, etc., to provide the entire upload bandwidth exclusively to my Bitcoin Core 0.15.0.1 uploads.

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October 24, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
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Yuk; the 0.15 versions disconnect btc1 nodes and disrupt the network causing propogation delays. No thank you; want to be well connected to many different versions of nodes because it’s more redundant as some nodes even 0.15 have certain bugs. Your advice is very bad technically speaking.

Can you please clarify the point about 0.15 - in red?

In what way ate btc1 nodes disconnected?

How is the network disrupted?
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October 24, 2017, 04:45:40 PM
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Yuk; the 0.15 versions disconnect btc1 nodes and disrupt the network causing propogation delays. No thank you; want to be well connected to many different versions of nodes because it’s more redundant as some nodes even 0.15 have certain bugs. Your advice is very bad technically speaking.

Can you please clarify the point about 0.15 - in red?

In what way ate btc1 nodes disconnected?

How is the network disrupted?

I'll tell you what I know for now.

Btc1 nodes are the b2x nodes that were recently assembled by their main developer.

After their hard fork btc1 nodes will reject all legitimate bitcoin core and other legitimate nodes, which would not support their 2Mb blocks.

After the Segwit activation this summer those 2 mb blocks are totally unnecessary!

But seeing that they are blocked by the new bitcoin core 0.15 nodes, they have recently created some other FAKE bitcoin Core nodes (their user agents are Satoshi:0.15.0: 1185
Satoshi:1.14.5: 126, etc,  see details here for example:
  https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/70jjmk/there_are_already_10x_more_core_015_nodes_running/ ), which impersonate community nodes, but in fact they are all launched by the b2x on servers they lease.

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October 24, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
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To be absolutely sure you are definitely downloading and later launching the REAL Bitcoin Core full node, download it exclusively from the main official site:


  https://bitcoin.org/en/download

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October 24, 2017, 08:34:05 PM
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what if it is a pruned bitcoin core node?
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October 24, 2017, 09:32:51 PM
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what if it is a pruned bitcoin core node?

I might be wrong, but as far as I know,  pruned core nodes preserve original user agent string (do not change it).




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October 24, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
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i used to run core, but im worried about the 2x fork and what that means

will the 2x take over existing BTC chain? or will there be separate chain for the 2x fork?
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October 24, 2017, 09:58:22 PM
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i used to run core, but im worried about the 2x fork and what that means

will the 2x take over existing BTC chain? or will there be separate chain for the 2x fork?

As I repeated above, since 2x supporters refuse to implement the replay protection (and that's the main problem and claim to them) it is not quite clear exactly what is going to be if 2x supporters do not regain consciousness.

But I very much like what Aleksej996 has said above about  the situation, so I believe all must be fine and great in the issue!




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