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October 27, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?

let me laugh for a while, if that's the case I can guarantee the investors will buy bitcoin yes there because it is a golden opportunity for investors to buy bitcoin at low prices.

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October 27, 2017, 03:03:18 PM
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If the normal stock market collapse,  I think before it does happen, the companies listed had already decided to shift into crypto currency and will make the crypomarket even grow larger. We should also take into consideration that the companies listed in the stock market are also eyeing on Bitcoin, since they know it is a good investment, just take a look at Amazon, they are reconsidering to add Bitcoin as their payment, that is to save their company from collapsing, other companies are also doing the same, we might expect a sudden shift from the traditional stock market that uses Fiat to stock market that uses cryptocurrencies, however it may take time for it to happen, since a lot of countries, haven't legalized Bitcoin yet.
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October 27, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
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Thats not easy to predict at all. But stock- and crypto market arent related. Theoretically nothing should happen.
But there is also the option the capital moving from the extremely volatile and crashing stock market into the also volatile (but not that volatile) crypto market.
On the other hand it also could lead to a drop in crypto market too. But this wouldnt be that likey.
But i dont think there will be such a hard crash like the black friday in the next few years..

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October 27, 2017, 05:32:29 PM
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The next crash that comes will tell if Bitcoin is a real safe haven asset or not. Given the amount of publicity that it has received and most people's willingness to use it now - I think it may one day achieve that status.
It is the new era and a lot of the people are having the benefit of it now, he value and the income of the bitcoin is use because of the simple and the smart transaction and the publically transport, the bitcoin is now being high and the value of the bitcoin will buy the most power and the highest amount of the bitcoin, I love the bitcoin currency and I will wait till the end of the chance for the improvement of the bitcoin value and the price.
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October 27, 2017, 06:09:18 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?

First of all, this article and the alert by HSBC are over a year old. The Dow is 5,000 points higher than it was when HSBC was warning about the likelihood of a stock market crash. Even though that doesn't affect the more interesting part of your question, I find it worth pointing out.

More importantly, I see far too many people proclaiming that the stock market crash will boost crypto. This is absurd to me. Crypto is the king of speculative assets, zero inherent value. The only thing propping up the price at this level is widespread optimism that it will be worth more in the future. When the stock market tanks, crypto will tank right along with it, and more likely harder. The reason is the evaporation of economic confidence. When things begin to fall, people aren't going to have the confidence that this inherently worthless digital token is going to be valued higher by someone else in the future than what you bought it for. Stocks have inherent value; each share is worth the liquidation value of the company, which makes them vastly safer than crypto. Stock market crashes are about a flight to safety and reducing risk, so if money is fleeing far safer assets than crypto, logically I would expect money to flee the riskier assets quicker.

Eventally, we will see a large market correction. I'm not at all rooting for it, but I'm confident my thesis will play out as I've described. However hard the S&P falls, bitcoin will fall harder.
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October 27, 2017, 06:26:59 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?
Often i have seen something related to the social networks, there was one expression, if you upload something on internet, then it will be there for ever. I think the same goes with digital coin. Of course there will be some movements downfall but it won't disappear. Actually the wealth is just moving from one side to an other, but world wide it's the same amount of money,gold,diamonds or what so ever.

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October 27, 2017, 06:51:45 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?
Stock Markets are entirely different,there are many many reasons for it collapse,but in case of crypto currencies,they fall if the price of bitcoin falls,or if some stock market bull wants to play with the markets and predicts something about bitcoin which ultimately leads to ,market crash,less demand of crypto is also a valid reason.
Stock markets crash way more than cryptos and bulls and bears immediately try to make the market stable. Cryptos man,you can trade and carefully and earn so damn much,stocks is like eh for me. Not attractive for me.
There is no relation B/w stocks and cryptos and they don't influence the other. So nothing much is there to worry.


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October 27, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?

Smart stock market investors will Jump in the btc train i expect a big jump in btc value if the stock market crashes.
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October 27, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
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Stock market and bitcoin market are different entirely. So, if the stock market is no more, it won't affect the bitcoin market negatively in any way because they don't run contemporaneously.

However, it might expound the bitcoin market because it will then mean more people freed and searching for places to invest on.

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October 27, 2017, 11:42:45 PM
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The fact is bitcoin started when there was a global economic melt down and that was the right time to introduce a new monetary system which could revolutionize everything and to have a platform where the greedy banking system nor the government could manipulate and in the even of another collapse there is no doubt that traditional investors will start investing in crypto currency and the price would peak without a doubt.














 

 

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October 27, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
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Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will get some boost, because investors will be looking for new markets, but it's hard to say how big this effect will be. Maybe it will add 10% to Bitcoin's value, or 50%, but I doubt that it would be able to double it. Also, during that time there can be some other events that might overshadow the effect of stock market crash - it might be negative, like Bitcoin getting banned in some major country, or positive - if it's adoption will be growing and development will progress further. It's also possible that Bitcoin won't be affected at all - many people tried to tie Bitcoin's growth to political and economic climate in the world, suggesting that negative events are boosting Bitcoin's price, but usually there's actually no correlation. But we haven't seen a major economic crisis during the time of Bitcoin's existence, so there are many possibilities.

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October 28, 2017, 02:25:53 AM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?

If a crash on stock market happens today while bitcoin is still on this phase then the price of the coin will be affected. We should remember that the coin don't have it's own value yet and it is just depending on the real money's value. Imagine if a number of people who owns a coin is affected by the crash and needs to sell their coin just to recover their loss. It will cause an increase of supply on the market and definitely reduce the number of demand which will cause to a deep on prices.
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October 28, 2017, 07:57:01 AM
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Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will get some boost, because investors will be looking for new markets, but it's hard to say how big this effect will be. Maybe it will add 10% to Bitcoin's value, or 50%, but I doubt that it would be able to double it. Also, during that time there can be some other events that might overshadow the effect of stock market crash - it might be negative, like Bitcoin getting banned in some major country, or positive - if it's adoption will be growing and development will progress further. It's also possible that Bitcoin won't be affected at all - many people tried to tie Bitcoin's growth to political and economic climate in the world, suggesting that negative events are boosting Bitcoin's price, but usually there's actually no correlation. But we haven't seen a major economic crisis during the time of Bitcoin's existence, so there are many possibilities.

Thinking the same thing that it could effect with boost in price but think, dont want to speculate on what level but it would be.
But if really stock collapse dont think that it would be time to react in such short time to transfers all to crypto.
Also this may not happen worse case is that bitcoin also collapse if stocks goes down.




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October 28, 2017, 08:05:13 AM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?

This is a really tough question, and the answer would likely depend on how many American investors have put their dough into Bitcoin. When stock markets crash, people run into safe havens, and this case the safe haven is the US dollar. They sell more speculative assets, in this case that would be stocks, and buy less speculative ones, in this case that would be major currencies and gold. Bitcoin is a highly speculative asset on its own, and investors may prefer to dump it too alongside stocks, but we can't say that with certainty.
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October 28, 2017, 12:47:25 PM
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The next crash that comes will tell if Bitcoin is a real safe haven asset or not. Given the amount of publicity that it has received and most people's willingness to use it now - I think it may one day achieve that status.
It is the new era and a lot of the people are having the benefit of it now, he value and the income of the bitcoin is use because of the simple and the smart transaction and the publically transport, the bitcoin is now being high and the value of the bitcoin will buy the most power and the highest amount of the bitcoin, I love the bitcoin currency and I will wait till the end of the chance for the improvement of the bitcoin value and the price.
Hmmm…I normally see some.people say that Bitcoin is part of stock market and once I checked online, some stock markets even started to let their investors trade on Bitcoin. But one thing that made me believe that Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are different is because other stocks like gold are natural resources that are mined from earth, and you know sometimes they can run out, though I’m sure, but Bitcoin is different and offers continuous mining until the 21 million is mined.
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October 28, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
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HSBC sent an alert that there may be an imminent crash of stockmarket similar to 1987 Black Monday

https://www.rt.com/business/362618-stock-market-severe-fall/

If this happens again, what's everyones opinion on the effects on crypto? Would a bunch of burnt investors jump on board?
If it will happen then we should be taken it in positive ways Because here it is basic and common understanding that if the stock market will collapse and market will go down much then in that case people will.exit that field ( temporary or permanently depending upon loss ). So here full chances are that people will enter in the bitcoin trading market because many types of the altcoins which are available to buy and sell are like the different different companies but here the increase in the rate depends upon the demand only that is possible easily to predict upon the coin's team activity  and also our experience can tell easily that which is better option of the investment .
So here all over the people will get into cryptocurrency field which is similar to stock share market  and this will grow the future of the cryptocurrency .

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October 28, 2017, 02:14:51 PM
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The next crash that comes will tell if Bitcoin is a real safe haven asset or not. Given the amount of publicity that it has received and most people's willingness to use it now - I think it may one day achieve that status.
It is the new era and a lot of the people are having the benefit of it now, he value and the income of the bitcoin is use because of the simple and the smart transaction and the publically transport, the bitcoin is now being high and the value of the bitcoin will buy the most power and the highest amount of the bitcoin, I love the bitcoin currency and I will wait till the end of the chance for the improvement of the bitcoin value and the price.
Hmmm…I normally see some.people say that Bitcoin is part of stock market and once I checked online, some stock markets even started to let their investors trade on Bitcoin. But one thing that made me believe that Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are different is because other stocks like gold are natural resources that are mined from earth, and you know sometimes they can run out, though I’m sure, but Bitcoin is different and offers continuous mining until the 21 million is mined.

Could you please tell us more about which stock markets allowed their investors to trade Bitcoin? I've never heard anything about that. As far as I remember the SEC has been rejecting Bitcoin ETF applications so far. Maybe, in some other countries it is different but in the US you can't trade Bitcoin or its derivatives like ETFs and futures at stock exchanges. Also, gold is not stock, you seem to confuse stocks, which are shares of companies taken as whole, with commodities where gold and other natural resources like crude oil belong.
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October 29, 2017, 12:26:44 PM
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When the stock market collapses Crypto always tends to do really well. The whole system is based on Bitcoin's system and this is the one that will be replacing the current central banking system.

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October 29, 2017, 12:28:48 PM
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Well the two aren't exactly linked so it depends on the reason for the crash, if it is exclusive to the stock market then it could be very good for crypto as the money may need to flow somewhere.

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October 29, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
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Nothing will happen to Crypto if stockmarket crashes and i think if it did happen, traders in the stock market will switch to Crypto. I heard of a guy who used to a trader in stock market for 16 years and he switched to Crypto trading in 2010. He made it big in Crypto trading that after a year he retired with all the profits he earned from trading cryptos, his name is Mike Komaransky. One's loss is another's gain.

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