--aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]

[Joel_Jantsen]

A random newbie opened a thread and locked it : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2311464.0
The content however had my attention,

Back in 2015, I came across this thread by a user named Invullx asking for someone to post on 14 of their Bitcointalk accounts.

At the time, I was not aware it was against the rules. I was in desperate need of money and while the payment was very low it was better than nothing, so I emailed them and we ended up working together.

Fast forward to now - about 2 months ago I realized that I am wasting my time as I could make my own account and make the same money instead of posting on 14 accounts for someone else. Therefore I started a new account and quit posting for aTriz|Decoded.

In the past months, however, it has come to my attention of just how corrupt they really are. I see them adding their own shill accounts into their signature campaigns, and manipulating other campaign mangers into adding multiple of their accounts while it is against the rules.

Because of my prior working relationship I am not willing to provide info about all of the accounts, only the "main 3":

1. Decoded
2. aTriz
3. dothebeats

These 3 accounts are all the same person. See the similarities in posting style. Wink

When will we get some transparency around here? I think a person such as this who uses proxies to post on 14 accounts should instantly be banned forever from the forum. This is a great opportunity for someone like Lauda to get their staff badge back...

Said profiles : Decoded
                       aTriz
                       dothebeats

Now,I don't know how legitimate is the claim or even if it's worth believing the bullshit but I'm just keeping the thread open for the inputs since the original poster locked their thread.I'm not accusing the mentioned profiles for being a part of it as the newbie could be any another butthurt spammer but still something seems interesting about the claim.Let's keep this thread open for your thoughts.

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[Aventhe]

Ok, I am not trying to add myself to this list but we can see the butthurt newbie do the following:

1. aTriz defends darkstar_ and he is accused if what sixcoin is saying.
2. Decoded joins in and immediately out of  nowhere he too is accused.
3. Then I join and immediately I too am accused, even though I haven't even had an account back in 2015.

Seems legit....


Then we go onto the actual accounts - they are rather different. If they were owned by the same person, why would he manage campaigns on aTriz, but not decoded? Might be wrong here, but let me know.

PS: The population of Sydney is ~5.3-5.4 million. Thats not a low number and I can guarantee that there is more than 1 person in Sydney on Bitcointalk at any given time.

[aTriz]

LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.

[Lauda]

LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.

You're all crooks in bed with SMAS, confirmed^TM. Ask gorgonzolla, Quickseller. They know./s

[aTriz]

LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.

You're all crooks in bed with SMAS, confirmed^TM. Ask gorgonzolla, Quickseller. They know./s

[The Sceptical Chymist]

None of those users is untrusted, so this shouldn't matter all that much.  Dothebeats is kind of a shitposter but not a scammer, and neither aTriz nor Decoded are shitposters and definitely not scammers. 

My impression was that that noob posted that accusation because he got rejected from a campaign.  Butthurt noobs do that all the time.

[Decoded]

I posted because I was arguing with aTriz and then decided to read the threads that he has posted in previously. If you checked, you will see me also posting in TBZ1's thread for shits and giggles.

Ok, I am not trying to add myself to this list but we can see the butthurt newbie do the following:

1. aTriz defends darkstar_ and he is accused if what sixcoin is saying.
2. Decoded joins in and immediately out of  nowhere he too is accused.
3. Then I join and immediately I too am accused, even though I haven't even had an account back in 2015.

Seems legit....


Then we go onto the actual accounts - they are rather different. If they were owned by the same person, why would he manage campaigns on aTriz, but not decoded? Might be wrong here, but let me know.

PS: The population of Sydney is ~5.3-5.4 million. Thats not a low number and I can guarantee that there is more than 1 person in Sydney on Bitcointalk at any given time.

Don't worry, he somehow posted on your account, too probably  

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon in a year.

With my luck, ftfy.

[TheUltraElite]

In my opinion this newbie is obviously another sockpuppet/shill of a shitposting 3rd world scum who can not even write a decent sentence in proper English, let alone try to do signature/bounty campaigns.

What surprises me is that this piece of shit made a thread and then locked it. He does not want any rebuttal and mocking from other fellow members of the forum. This shows that the person is not willing to provide any other information and/or not willing to discuss their assumptions with others. In case of a legitimate investigation the OP would generally keep the thread open to discussions.

He/she is just provoking other people to think that these managers are not good and their campaigns are not worth joining - quite the type of revenge thing that people who dont have a life and those who cannot move on with things in life, often do.

[Joel_Jantsen]

None of those users is untrusted, so this shouldn't matter all that much.  Dothebeats is kind of a shitposter but not a scammer, and neither aTriz nor Decoded are shitposters and definitely not scammers. 

It isn't specifically about those users but considering the worst case scenario which is someone paying people to rank up their 100+ accounts is what bothers me.

LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.

How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)

Why aren't they tagged yet? I looked into this myself and both accounts are being posted by someone from Sydney, Australia. This is the same location of the person who is trying to find a spammer. Until aTriz|Decoded proves they are two different people, they should get tagged.

[HCP]

Sure was nice of the thread owner to unlock the thread long enough for the 1 post newbie (who is in no way related to the OP ) to post in there, after they had "looked into" the issue... before immediately re-locking the thread...

I especially like how: "both accounts are being posted by someone from Sydney, Australia" is obviously cause to suspect that both accounts are run by the same person. You couldn't possibly have two people from a city of over 5 MILLION people who are interested in cryptocurrency...

Guess all these localbitcoins accounts from Sydney, AU are probably the same person too!

[aTriz]

How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.

How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.

[audaciousbeing]

These allegations to me are quite weigthy and are serious. It must also be noted that ever since Atriz has been managing quite an amount of campaigns here, there have been some allegations here and there.

I wont believe that the person behind the initial thread is a newbie because reading from that, it shows he probably have one thing or the other but the issue around here is simple. The onus is on the accuser to proof that the relationship exists as the similarity and location is not enough to hold forth as this has been defeated by earlier arguments.

If there is a claim that he sent an email, then he should have the correspondence to show it or it does not hold anything and more so, he should better come out with his own account rather than hiding behind a newbie account.

[blackmagician]

This is what im saying , be fair dt members.  Youre protecting those bullshits. They are even worst than what i did.
3 accounts same person, and yet your ignoring this doings.wtf!!!

[blackmagician]

How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.

How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.

Defend yourself now ,your busted. We must keep this thread active ,so everybody will see how dt members will act.

[Joel_Jantsen]

How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

[actmyname]

This is what im saying , be fair dt members.  Youre protecting those bullshits. They are even worst than what i did. 3 accounts same person, and yet your ignoring this doings.wtf!!!

You're fucking stupid. There is proof of you having alternate accounts. There is no proof of aTriz having alternate accounts. If you consider hearsay evidence valid, then surely you must believe everything you hear.

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

But there was none made.

[HCP]

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

Still waiting to see any evidence of a "valid" case... The "case" so far consists of a forum thread from 2 years ago... from a completely different forum... where the OP has a completely different username.

The ONLY link between the OP of said thread and aTriz and Decoded is that they are all from Sydney, Australia. A city of 5+ million people.

The butthurt troll "Accuser" contends that he "worked" for these guys, supposedly posting 100 posts per day for 14 different accounts (1400 posts/day!!?!  )... for over 2 years. Nevermind that the original thread offer was for 15 weeks. He also contends that they communicated via email and that they paid him... in which case, given his talent for posting, he should be able to provide documentary evidence by way of emails.

Given how long he has had to provide some actual evidence, and just repeatedly spammed the same forum thread link, while locking/unlocking a scam thread, creating a new account, posting in the scam thread with obvious alt account... the logical explanation is that he has no evidence.

And until some "valid" proof is presented... there is no "valid" case and he will remain an obvious butthurt troll

[aTrizAKAdecoded]

How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.
I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded

[Aventhe]

How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.
I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded

Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  

[Joel_Jantsen]

We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.
I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded

Thank you for replying.Is there any other information would you like to provide ? Like the slack channel info,bitcoin addresses where you were paid.More accounts which you farmed for him.You can look for any screenshots of the slack conversations or something.You need to help me with relevant proofs if you want those accounts to be tagged at all.