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November 27, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

I don't use bitcoin to buy illegal stuff because I am too afraid of the law and I don't want to break the law. in the past, I usually buy something on the internet using paypal and fortunately, my paypal account is verified so I can easily buy and pay with paypal. I am not familiar with payeer or else but in real life, I usually used cash to pay or buy something.
I supposed that nobody in this thread will write the truth, it is stupid to write here something like "yes, I have used bitcoin for illegal things", am I wrong?
I also feel fear towards the government about any use of crypto currencies, but for now my country (Russia) still didn't take the final decision about crypto currencies, so I am using it freely, but I am impatient what kind of the law is going to be in the end. But I don't doubt there are people who take a risk and do or buy illegal things with crypto currencies with the hope the law will not touch them, maybe for now it works, but I don't think it is going to be so for long.
Don't be impatient and don't mind to fast for your country to do such act.Its better to cherish the freedom on what you are experiencing as of now.No one would really admit that they would use bitcoin on dark matter purposes but I'm sure there are still people who would use this for illegal purpose.I know it is really risky and even I would really be scared on doing such thing but there are people who can really afford to do such thing.

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November 28, 2017, 07:59:15 AM
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Bitcoin users can also be subject to theft, scams, and frauds, which some argue is made easier because of Bitcoin’s structure and lack of regulation. Internet and computer security is extremely weak, while hackers have been getting much more sophisticated, so it would make sense that attacks would rise. So Bitcoin is not completely untrackable. Although there is no name attached to Bitcoin wallets, the wallets themselves, and transactions between wallets, are view-able to the public.
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November 28, 2017, 01:11:32 PM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh
I find myself as a good person and I actually don't like illegal things so that is why I have no intention buying illegal things through the use of my bitcoin.

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)

For now, I think normal bank system is more convenient to use on buying legal things, and also bitcoin is, but only few merchants accept bitcoin as a payment so it will end up hard. And I don't like things getting more complicated!  Smiley
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November 29, 2017, 02:55:36 AM
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To me, bitcoin makes the process of transferral of money seamless and more efficient. And in this process the downside to it all is that illegal activities are funded. However one must weigh up on the benefits of this centralised currency that outweigh the disadvantages to determine if it truly is a major issue.
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November 29, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
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To me, so far I'm just trying to earn bitcoin and then selling it to local currency.
Well.. it's impossible for me to use bitcoin for illegal purposes / dark use purposes, and even seems I do not dare to doing that, to buying anything also with bitcoin is still prohibited in my place.
And I think it's not worth to do, it's smearing the good name of bitcoin that's so special.
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December 04, 2017, 11:34:46 AM
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A lot of transactions that are happening in this world and even before fiat came out is there are already a lot that involves illegal activities so people should stop stating these issue too often because bitcoin's purpose is not focused on these crap.
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December 04, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
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I don't think someone here will disclose some facts regarding using bitcoin for illegal purposes, bitcoin is very common in the dark web since anonymity is a thing there and also self security as well. I don't know if a government can trace illegal transactions using bitcoin but if they can it will be very very difficult for them.
I prefer using fiat for legal purchases of goods and services since after spending fiat and some bitcoins are still on hand it will earn profit Smiley

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December 04, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
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I don't think someone here will disclose some facts regarding using bitcoin for illegal purposes, bitcoin is very common in the dark web since anonymity is a thing there and also self security as well. I don't know if a government can trace illegal transactions using bitcoin but if they can it will be very very difficult for them.
I prefer using fiat for legal purchases of goods and services since after spending fiat and some bitcoins are still on hand it will earn profit Smiley

If you think that bitcoin is anonymous, think again. It's been explained multiple times that it is not the case. There is blockchain that can tracked all your movement. That's why there's mixing services as well, too provide you a layer of protection. And there is chain analysis:

https://www.chainalysis.com/

There is no doubt that bitcoin has been used by criminals to purchase illegal items in the dark web, but I assumed that they are very clever in hiding and maybe using other coins which is more anonymous like Monero, ZCash or even Dash, which makes it more harder for authorities to link and put a name on addresses.

But I guess if you don't deal with criminality with your hard earn bitcoins, you shouldn't be worry at all.

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December 04, 2017, 03:48:18 PM
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Buying contraband with Bitcoin has become increasingly difficult these days. A lot many of the reliable dark market sites (such as Alphabay) has shut down. Some others have vanished with the money from the users.
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December 05, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
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Every currency will be used for a mix of good and bad activities.
What's more important is how efficient the currency is at enabling those transactions, and how easy it is for enforcement agencies to do their job.

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December 06, 2017, 05:54:31 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
Buy illegal staff using bitcoin may we do but it is abusing in bitcoin  in cryptocurrency and trying to destroy bitcoin reputation. Maybe it will happen in other person who interested to do crime using bitcoin because they can't traced their transaction have.
There some dark web now get banned and vanish due to abusing bitcoin. Peoples used bitcoin may also controlled them selves  not to do crimes using bitcoin.
But still bitcoin is good it depends upon on the beholder how they used.

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December 06, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
i think its in your own if you want to buy something legal or illegal everyone don't care about that you have your own decision what do you want to buy with your bitcoin!

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December 07, 2017, 05:54:05 AM
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Every currency will be used for a mix of good and bad activities.
What's more important is how efficient the currency is at enabling those transactions, and how easy it is for enforcement agencies to do their job.

At the moment bitcoin transactions cost a lot, and I believe that this is is bad for bitcoin efficiency for buying anything with bitcoins, legal or illegal.
I agree that every currency will be used for good and bad, but with this fees just rich people and some drug bosses use bitcoin for paying something, why would drug addict pay some drug 5 dollars and fee for that 5 dollars can be double more money.

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December 07, 2017, 11:19:02 AM
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... bitcoin is very common in the dark web since anonymity is a thing there...

This may have been true a few years ago, but it definitely isn´t true today.
Several of the big dark net markets have stopped accepting BTC altogether in the recent months!

This is diametrically opposed to what you are claiming. Blockchain analysis companies are getting
more sophisticated by the day in tracking coin movements and linking this to real identities. The dark net users
are increasingly aware of this and therefore have moved on to less known altcoins for that
blockchain analysis companies don´t yet exist. This shift away from BTC has become even more
pronounced due to the rise in transaction fees.

In my opinion this development had to be expected, because why would you want your
drug- or weaponrelated transactions on an immutable, public ledger? It really makes
no sense.

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December 11, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
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Some people really use Bitcoin on deepweb like buying illegal drugs , Paypal account and Credit card credentials, Hitman and etc.  It is really easy to use it that way because no one can know who you transact with . Like the famous Silk Road Site on the deep web that Fbi shutdowns .
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January 16, 2018, 06:25:02 AM
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for 1st question, Nope, i don't feel buying illegal stuff using bitcoin, but it is really possible to use bitcoin but such illegal stuff, because no one can trace you your transaction and for the 2nd question, since it's legal stuff, it really up to you what you will use since Bitcoin still a money/ currency, e currency to be exact.
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January 16, 2018, 09:48:13 AM
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1) Are you used Bitcoin to buy illegal staff Huh

2) which better to buy legal things  Bitcoin or Normal Bank system (PP,payeer,cash ,.............)
i think its in your own if you want to buy something legal or illegal everyone don't care about that you have your own decision what do you want to buy with your bitcoin!
agree, this is a private matter, want to use bitcoin for anything, it's their right, because those who will bear the consequences if dare to abuse bitcoin for things that violate the law

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January 16, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
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Anyone can use this bitcoin in any way either good or the dark way. Because here we are not traced because we are using anonymous account. And that is a disadvantage.
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January 16, 2018, 01:55:58 PM
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Can you buy a bank using bitcoin?
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January 17, 2018, 05:58:39 AM
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If indeed the country has been legalized bitcoin, it's good we aimed the all efforts made only focused on the things that are legal. Anyhow I don't think bitcoin is worth using for the things that smelled illegal. To me personally in the country where I live, although bitcoin is still said not legal completely.. but I personally keep doing things more positively and avoiding things that smelled negatively, criminalized, or illegal activities like for example made into a dark business.
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