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October 26, 2017, 04:01:03 PM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:45:23 PM by frodocooper |
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Awesome, what kw price do you get over there, and how did you got the money for it investors ?
What about the mining ? Do you use antminers ? How many ?
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October 26, 2017, 04:11:25 PM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:48:43 PM by frodocooper |
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The price I got from the power grid is about 0.3 CNY/kWh. The other two shareholder are my old friends. We started buying Bitcoin from 2013/2014. So we earned enough money to build this farm. In next month we can host about 6000 miners. Only hundreds are owned by myself. My main purpose is to provide hosting service and cloud mining. Now I have 600 L3+ and 200 S9 running. It's located in a discarded factory at the same town, which is temporary.
This is my "Introduce yourself" post on steemit.com. https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@somebody/sabydee-grettings-from-laosLast year I invested 54 BTC (valued 300 kUSD now) on Steem. Now it's only 34k.
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Is your power hydro electricity or coal based?
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October 27, 2017, 02:57:01 AM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:52:40 PM by frodocooper |
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How did you manage to agree with the authorities? It was hard to get permission?
Yes. We registered a project company at the county. We signed investment agreement with the local government, finished Feasibility Study Report, Environmental Assessment Report, Safety Production Assessment Report, etc. Many documents, many approvals, and costs. We also purchased the land from the government, 50 years right of use. Totally about 13000 square meters. The governor and officials visiting my farm: https://imgur.com/w76WryK.
Is your power hydro electricity or coal based?
It's using power from the power grid, not particularly hydro or coal. So it's more stable than hydro, no need to migrate at dry seasons. Inner Mongolia province has lots of installed capacity, including coal, wind and solar. We construct a 10kV transmission line from the 4km far substation.
If i can ask whats ur estimated hashing power
End of year it will be 100P and next year 500P.
Photos took this morning. https://imgur.com/LflRsKRhttps://imgur.com/tN0uOz5https://imgur.com/9hRp2PChttps://imgur.com/a7a8SCDhttps://imgur.com/e2vwX33
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October 27, 2017, 09:43:18 AM |
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The operator of this farm is experiencing bad construction delays and is defaulting on the cloud mining contract that is suppose to start paying on Nov 1st!
He sold 2 million dollars worth of cloud contracts in September, now it is end of Oct and he is not paying the mining contracts because of construction delays. The contract actually says the investors will receive bitcoin regardless of lose of power, construction delays, break down of equipments etc...
Stay away from him. You will lose money.
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October 27, 2017, 01:09:15 PM |
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The operator of this farm is experiencing bad construction delays and is defaulting on the cloud mining contract that is suppose to start paying on Nov 1st!
He sold 2 million dollars worth of cloud contracts in September, now it is end of Oct and he is not paying the mining contracts because of construction delays. The contract actually says the investors will receive bitcoin regardless of lose of power, construction delays, break down of equipments etc...
Stay away from him. You will lose money.
Do I know you? show you evidence please.
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October 28, 2017, 02:16:14 AM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:55:38 PM by frodocooper |
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Do I know you? show you evidence please.
Why don't you post your cloud mining contract here? Oh wait, you took the money, asked your clients to sign the contract digitally and have not sent the contract back to them because you can't honor the contract? Why don't you actually honor the contract and start paying people as advertised on November 1st 2017! Show you evidence? Which statement I am making is false? You have not sold a contract? Your contact does not start in November 1st? You are going to pay on November 1st? Please prove I am BULLSHITTING.
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October 28, 2017, 04:02:08 AM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:58:10 PM by frodocooper |
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Why don't you post your cloud mining contract here? Oh wait, you took the money, asked your clients to sign the contract digitally and have not sent the contract back to them because you can't honor the contract?
Why don't you actually honor the contract and start paying people as advertised on November 1st 2017!
Show you evidence? Which statement I am making is false? You have not sold a contract? Your contact does not start in November 1st? You are going to pay on November 1st? Please prove I am BULLSHITTING.
I sold first batch of cloud mining contract on August 30. For some reasons I couldn't order miners from Bitmain and after about ten days I stop trying negotiate with Bitmain and returned the money back to clients ( Some clients choose to wait for next batch miners). Then on Sep 19 I sold the 2nd batch contracts after I confirmed order with Bitmain. These miners will be shipped between Nov 10 to Nov 20 from Bitmain. It takes about one week to ship from Shenzheng factory to our farm. In the contract we promised to start mining in two weeks after we receive the miners. I never sold contracts that start paying from Nov 1st. Yes it's true that I didn't send the contracts to the clients yet. It will be done in next week. I explained that in the wechat group. I don't know if you purchased my cloud mining contracts or not. If you feel worried I can purchase back you hashrate according to the market price now. I think you know how to contact me. Now we are working day and night to accelerate the construction. It's never not easy to run a business like this. Working last night: https://imgur.com/nlEP3Uphttps://imgur.com/eijRddNSteel structures arrived this morning: https://imgur.com/eijRddNHere is the contract: https://imgur.com/S2WwEdChttps://imgur.com/oJVLgR5https://imgur.com/nsOMIE5https://imgur.com/8OXskbvhttps://imgur.com/KO9Me08https://imgur.com/0Pajj4C
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October 28, 2017, 06:56:49 AM Last edit: May 02, 2019, 11:59:30 PM by frodocooper |
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Yep that's the round two contract, there is a round one contract as well which s9 machines arrives in the first week of Nov right?
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October 28, 2017, 09:35:29 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:00:39 AM by frodocooper |
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Yep that's the round two contract, there is a round one contract as well which s9 machines arrives in the first week of Nov right?
Yes. We wanted to order S9 shipping from Nov. 1st to Nov. 10th. From Shenzhen to Inner Mongolia needs about one week. And In the contract we promised to start mining in two weeks after we receive the miners. So it's now start paying from Nov. 1st. Moreover, that contract was canceled and I returned the money back to clients.
Update afternoon Oct 28: https://imgur.com/c3Q430A
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October 28, 2017, 12:27:32 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:01:13 AM by frodocooper |
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October 30, 2017, 06:44:02 AM |
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OP, is it legal to build Bitcoin mining farm, especially inside China? I heard that China government just tracked and shut down several Bitcoin mining farms recently. Anyway, I wish you all the best with this project. PS: Love your long term vision and hope everything turns out well
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October 31, 2017, 02:50:28 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:03:59 AM by frodocooper |
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OP, is it legal to build Bitcoin mining farm, especially inside China? I heard that China government just tracked and shut down several Bitcoin mining farms recently. Anyway, I wish you all the best with this project. PS: Love your long term vision and hope everything turns out well The Chinese government defines Bitcoin as "digital commodity". It's legal to hold, buy, sell or produce such "digital commodity". The reason that the government call stop ICOs and shutdown the exchanges is there are two many cheating, manipulating the market, etc. So it's total legal to build and operating mining farms in China.
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October 31, 2017, 12:14:10 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:04:55 AM by frodocooper |
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Yes. We wanted to order S9 shipping from Nov. 1st to Nov. 10th. From Shenzhen to Inner Mongolia needs about one week. And In the contract we promised to start mining in two weeks after we receive the miners. So it's now start paying from Nov. 1st.
Moreover, that contract was canceled and I returned the money back to clients.
Thank you for admitting that you have defaulted on the contract. Cancelling the contract is not acceptable as there were no terms in there that allows you to do one way cancellation. When you sign a cloud mining agreement with your client, you must carry out the terms no matter what! Your clients and I (indirectly) have lost a lot of profit that we could have made if you actually honored the contract.
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October 31, 2017, 01:24:56 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:05:21 AM by frodocooper |
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Uff. This is serious even if you gave the money back. The opportunity cost can be skyhigh for the clients that signed the first contract which was one-sidedly revoked.
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November 02, 2017, 03:52:41 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:08:11 AM by frodocooper |
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... The most tough thing is drinking. People from Inner Mongolia like drink just as Russians.
Haha, dealing with drunk construction workers can't be fun.
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November 02, 2017, 04:06:07 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:08:39 AM by frodocooper |
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It's not easy. You need to get many approvals, reports. Everything costs.
The most tough thing is drinking. People from Inner Mongolia like drink just as Russians.
Have you encountered the drinking issue when trying to get approvals, reports, docs or just with construction workers ?
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November 02, 2017, 04:36:11 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:09:33 AM by frodocooper |
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Now I have 600 L3+ and 200 S9 running. It's located in a discarded factory at the same town, which is temporary.
I am wondering how much did you pay for your L3+ and S9. How much of a volume discount did you get?
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November 02, 2017, 11:19:05 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:09:51 AM by frodocooper |
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Have you encountered the drinking issue when trying to get approvals, reports, docs or just with construction workers ?
You need to drink with the officials to build good "relationship".
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November 03, 2017, 01:48:53 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:10:05 AM by frodocooper |
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You need to drink with the officials to build good "relationship".
If drinking is all you need in your country to build good relationships then you are a lucky man.
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November 11, 2017, 05:18:46 AM |
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How much does the whole project cost u?
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Selling 100 dollar coupons (8units expire 11th June, 14 units expire 1st july) and 125 dollar coupon (2 unit exp 30th June). Selling at 20% of value
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December 14, 2017, 07:35:32 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:19:34 AM by frodocooper |
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I can't see the pics. BTW, for 500kVA transformer, how many S9 antminers can you run? Are you using 220 or 240V?
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January 05, 2018, 04:25:03 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:19:57 AM by frodocooper |
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Hey there, nice work.
Is it really true that the locals and gov are tryna limit the power usage for mining farms there?
It's local governments, and yeah, it's true. I'm not affiliated with Richestlizza, but my mine is pretty close to his and they've been flipping our power off for the past 48 hours or so. This should create some good opportunities. This squeezing will cause some miners to relocate, but it will probably make some others downsize or quit altogether. I'm thinking there will be more machines on the market really soon.
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January 05, 2018, 05:57:07 PM |
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Lizza, have u ordered the machines yet or not? Their price has juz increased unfortunately.
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Selling 100 dollar coupons (8units expire 11th June, 14 units expire 1st july) and 125 dollar coupon (2 unit exp 30th June). Selling at 20% of value
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January 12, 2018, 12:35:42 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:20:51 AM by frodocooper |
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It's local governments, and yeah, it's true. I'm not affiliated with Richestlizza, but my mine is pretty close to his and they've been flipping our power off for the past 48 hours or so. This should create some good opportunities. This squeezing will cause some miners to relocate, but it will probably make some others downsize or quit altogether. I'm thinking there will be more machines on the market really soon.
How are things in China now? There has been a lot of buzz about the crackdown in China in the last week or so? Is that still really happening? Thanks.
I can't see the pics. BTW, for 500kVA transformer, how many S9 antminers can you run? Are you using 220 or 240V?
You can easily run 280 S9 miners on a 500KVA transformer. 220 or 240 either should work. Thanks.
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January 14, 2018, 05:50:58 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:21:36 AM by frodocooper |
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You can easily run 280 S9 miners on a 500KVA transformer. 220 or 240 either should work. Thanks.
Is this what you did? 500kva * 0.8 = 400kva / 1.4k => 285 units
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January 15, 2018, 03:21:11 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:22:00 AM by frodocooper |
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Is this what you did?
500kva * 0.8 = 400kva / 1.4k => 285 units
Yes, took power factor as 1. You should be good with these. What is the weather like in your area? In summer, the amps might go up a little bit so don't overload for continuous operation. Thanks.
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January 16, 2018, 01:35:07 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:22:33 AM by frodocooper |
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Yes, took power factor as 1. You should be good with these. What is the weather like in your area? In summer, the amps might go up a little bit so don't overload for continuous operation. Thanks.
Summer is hot and dry where I live; hence, I am planning to use evaporated cooling. It is a lot cheaper than A/C. I am thinking about ultrasonic evaporation but the water is too hard here.
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January 18, 2018, 05:51:47 PM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:22:47 AM by frodocooper |
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Summer is hot and dry where I live; hence, I am planning to use evaporated cooling. It is a lot cheaper than A/C. I am thinking about ultrasonic evaporation but the water is too hard here.
Hot and dry is good for evaporative cooling. You should be good.
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January 30, 2018, 04:54:25 AM |
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How hot does it get at your site during summer though? I am sure winter isn't that difficult to handle, but the temperature difference between summer and winter can be like 30'C...
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Fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. Just HODL.
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January 31, 2018, 04:47:38 AM |
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So the last time the OP responded was Dec 3rd. Either he's counting his money or...
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April 02, 2018, 01:52:06 PM |
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richestlizza, are u still alive?
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April 26, 2018, 01:06:06 AM Last edit: May 03, 2019, 12:24:46 AM by frodocooper |
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Hi, What is the the model and the brand of your fan with filter is this image: https://imgur.com/C0gqV0h? I would similar fan with filter. Regards.
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~snip~
Man that looks amazing. Awesome to see someone who was able to put together some large scale expansion plans in place during the rough patch. How big are you now? The last update said you were going to be 500 PH by the end of 2018, I could understand if that got delayed. First time I noticed the thread so I'm a bit behind but that's an awesome accomplishment. Are you still doing the hosting? Did you ever manage to get a cloud mining operation running? I have to ask you previously were at 100 machines yourself, what's that grown to? Didn't see it anywhere but have you gone the solo mining route or do you have a pool you like?
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June 17, 2019, 03:09:42 AM Last edit: June 17, 2019, 09:46:58 AM by frodocooper |
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We'll expand to 120MW this year, hashrate will above 2000P!
Cloud mining and pool business is also on the way.
Stay tuned, my friends!
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We'll expand to 120MW this year, hashrate will above 2000P! Cloud mining and pool business is also on the way. Stay tuned, my friends!
Wow that sounds massive, looking forward to seeing some more images of the expansion as it happens. I'm not to keen on cloud mining but some people are drawn to it. Did you decide to drop hosting, that's a business model I can get behind. Definitely more customer friendly, and helps bring more people the opportunity to mine. You mention a pool, so you're going to launch your own?
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I too hope you do hosting as well, I have a few M10's in the USA looking for a loving home. Oh, did you mention where you are located?
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