Making self-moderated threads more sensible

[greyhawk]

At the moment thread self-moderation is mostly used to silence critics and present the OP in a better light than deserved, thus facilitating scams and/or self-aggrandizement.

This is an effort to gather ideas on how to make censorial efforts done by the OP more obvious to the participants of the thread.

- Programmatically insert a running count of removed posts in an obvious place of the thread, for instance the thread title or the self-moderation information banner at top of each thread page.

- Replace deleted post by a short system message that a post used to be at that place within the thread. I know this is possible with vbulletin even going so far as to offer a field that shows a reason for post deletion. So there might be a SMF plugin or option already allowing this.

Anyone else have some ideas?

[Akka]

- Replace deleted post by a short system message that a post used to be at that place within the thread. I know this is possible with vbulletin even going so far as to offer a field that shows a reason for post deletion. So there might be a SMF plugin or option already allowing this.

This is IMO a very good idea. Instead of just removing the post, at least the username, date and a small message should remain.

Make it look like what remains when you ignore a user and write something like this in the post:

This massage was deleted by [Name] due to: ....

That should keep people from over abusing this function.

[tysat]

This massage was deleted by [Name] due to: ....

That should keep people from over abusing this function.

I like that idea, just a small thing saying that a post by XXXXX was deleted by the OP.

[kodo]

This would probably take tons of programming.

[greyhawk]

This would probably take tons of programming.

As I said, this is already supported via plugin or as a basic functionality in other forums software. There is a likelyhood the same already exists for SMF.

[kodo]

This would probably take tons of programming.

As I said, this is already supported via plugin or as a basic functionality in other forums software. There is a likelyhood the same already exists for SMF.

Would they be able to do this quickly?

[CIYAM]

Would they be able to do this quickly?

And would they be able to tell us when someone is using a "sock puppet" or not?

[greyhawk]

Would they be able to do this quickly?

And would they be able to tell us when someone is using a "sock puppet" or not?

That one's easy. Ever poster but you is a sock puppet of me. 

[Atruk]

- Programmatically insert a running count of removed posts in an obvious place of the thread, for instance the thread title or the self-moderation information banner at top of each thread page.

Take it to the next step and have "x posts by y users have been deleted from this thread [click here for a list of moderated users and posts]"

[jackjack]

Agreed

[Lohoris]

- Replace deleted post by a short system message that a post used to be at that place within the thread. I know this is possible with vbulletin even going so far as to offer a field that shows a reason for post deletion. So there might be a SMF plugin or option already allowing this.

Anyone else have some ideas?

Much better:

- You shouldn't be able to delete posts, only to "hide" them at most

I.e. they would appear kind of collapsed, more or less like the ignored user's one (but without the hassle of reading only one line at once).

Or, even better:

- No post deletion, simply moderator flagging, and if the moderator thinks the post should really be deleted, he does that.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Or, even better:

- No post deletion, simply moderator flagging, and if the moderator thinks the post should really be deleted, he does that.

There has been local rules for a while.

[jackjack]

Or, even better:

- No post deletion, simply moderator flagging, and if the moderator thinks the post should really be deleted, he does that.

What's the difference with regular threads?

[K1773R]

- Programmatically insert a running count of removed posts in an obvious place of the thread, for instance the thread title or the self-moderation information banner at top of each thread page.

Take it to the next step and have "x posts by y users have been deleted from this thread [click here for a list of moderated users and posts]"

signed

[Double-Spent]

reptilia will go crazy if he can't delete the posts that criticize his delusions

[greyhawk]

reptilia will go crazy if he can't delete the posts that criticize his delusions

You found the inspiration for the thread.

[darkmule]

I'd like an option to block self-moderated threads rather than waste time with them.  They're usually started by trolls and morons who then delete posts just to piss you off.

[ElectricMucus]

I'd remove that function. I never have seen practical use of it so far.

[JohnSy]

At the moment thread self-moderation is mostly used to silence critics and present the OP in a better light than deserved, thus facilitating scams and/or self-aggrandizement.

This is an effort to gather ideas on how to make censorial efforts done by the OP more obvious to the participants of the thread.

- Programmatically insert a running count of removed posts in an obvious place of the thread, for instance the thread title or the self-moderation information banner at top of each thread page.

- Replace deleted post by a short system message that a post used to be at that place within the thread. I know this is possible with vbulletin even going so far as to offer a field that shows a reason for post deletion. So there might be a SMF plugin or option already allowing this.

Anyone else have some ideas?

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