[Re-opened] Scam accusation again Complete liar and scamer James Lent

[zazarb]

What happened:: September 13, 2016, he ask me for loan for launch sportbook website , I agree help,  knowing he as reputable person (few deal before), but more important that he was to create an image as a fighter against scamers, honest person. In  additional he gave website which was have some value at moment deal, but instant after, started to fall in Alex rank and currently after 7 months is worthless.
The loan repayment date was on the second half of  November, he ask extension for  week and even paid additional fee, then reaped next week again same, third time I said that he should first pay principal amount and than we talk about later fee ,since mid of December began constant false promises, and tons story, he message me almost every day,  with various explanations.
In early January He claimed to have the full amount cash , but can't find exchanger (in Japan) , then he found exchanger in USA and wire him, around month  money traveling in USA, then month unsuccessfully waiting until  exchanger manage BTC , then he  requested to return money back,  next story about how he find local friend who  have to exchange at least partial amount, another few week waste time, then he gave money to another friend who had to exchange  in BTCC ,exhange done, but  around month wait of  withdrawal and  again nothing, finally I agree that he can send me direct via wire, at least what have on hand , he sent $2700usd and showed screenshot. I was waited  over month, money not arrived, After I left negative feedback , he  immediately offer me sent via WU up 15k , but   but the day goes by , And he repeats the same mantra: "give me 24 hour just let me sort it out"

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396480

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1161170.msg16234549#msg16234549
Amount Scammed: 10BTC(5BTC principal +interest 8%/monthly
Payment Method:
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/54e39dc6faef60be655cf917aa76454634a1d2ae0cd7ec70f8a0928d78d5da75
PM/Chat Logs: whatsapp chat weighs >10Mb, I haven't idea how show it here
Additional Notes:

Edit:
After I posted this accusation on 22th July, he paid me around 2-3% what he owe and promised pay 400-500usd every week. I gave him another chance.  Since that time, I did not get anything, just millions of promise.
I even agreed to take it some luxurious watch from him to reduce loan(HE handles a couple of weeks of dispatch affairs, then assured that packages shipped (watch from Japan, box from USA). Already passed 1.5 months, I did not get it and   he not able provide even tracking number). Last two weeks he every day promise "send " me around 0.2BTC, even today he text me that already paid for BTC and just waiting coins, and so every day...

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[electronicash]

its not surprising though. money is always going to reap hearts of everyone. when it comes to money you can expect an individual to change, even a family member can turn a relationship sourer than sea waters. i still wanted to see what james response to this thread now that its officially out for the public to investigate.

[Zepher]

Ouch zazarb, that is a hell of a lot of money. I will leave a rating on his account, I am sure other DT members will too.

I genuinely hope he comes and resolves this situation, and that you get the BTC you are rightfully owed.

[Lutpin]

Seems you're reusing loan addresses, the one meant for the repayment of james.lent's loan has somewhere around ~140 transactions in total.
It's hard to spot whether/to what extent repayments have been made (eg there's a 5.4 btc input in early december 2016).

If you'd use a new repayment address for each loan, it would be easy to spot which ones have been repaid and which have been defaulted on.
Let's give james a chance to defend themselves here, have you PM'd them about this thread and asked for a public statement?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Ouch

Yeah, ouch.

I do hope you get your money back, zazarb, but bitcoin has shot up so high since you made the loan that I wouldn't hold my breath.   Too bad, too, because he was one of the good guys on bitcointalk.  Maybe he'll pay and restore his reputation,  but with all the excuses you claim he's making, yikes.   

The one time I got scammed here, TimSweat was saying the same things. There was always an excuse, always a need for more time.  In the end he just went away.  That's what scammers do, but James Lent never had a history of that.  Then again, neither did Master-P.

[|Admiral|]

As far as my knowledge goes which does not go much i think james lent is Neelesh or Nilesh or sauroubh or saurabh. Seems like indian/pakistani to me.
James lent has a feedback from mexxer whose name is somewhat connected to saurabh who used to be mod on prime dice. I am not sure with my proofs but i thought any info will help op.

Edit: mexxer is default on some money and owes btc to lutpin. All alts may be doing so combining pulling a good amount..though i am not sure.

[Zepher]

~snip~

Edit: mexxer is default on some money and owes btc to lutpin. All alts may be doing so combining pulling a good amount..though i am not sure.

As far as I know, mexxer eventually repaid Lutpin the money that was owed to him.

[zazarb]

-snipe-

he never denied that he owes me, and amount what owe.
And Yes, he  knowledge about this thread, we have conversations every day
if you are in doubt about 5.4BTC transaction, here  screenshot from my coinbase account of that period.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/zd2l2MJiqG8pFHf5/www.coinbase.com

[Lutpin]

if you are in doubt about 5.4BTC transaction, here  screenshot from my coinbase account of that period.

I don't doubt your words, I'm just suggesting a lending practice that provides more transparency, especially for third parties looking into your loans.
It's a bit more work, but provides significant advantages in situations like these.

James lent has a feedback from mexxer whose name is somewhat connected to saurabh who used to be mod on prime dice. I am not sure with my proofs but i thought any info will help op.

DaDice, not primedice.

Edit: mexxer is default on some money and owes btc to lutpin. All alts may be doing so combining pulling a good amount..though i am not sure.

Having had previous contact with both mexxer-2 and james.lent, I would be seriously surprised if they turned out to be the same person.

[zazarb]

I already pm  Dogedigital for more info about JL, since he helps him launch betting website , any information would be useful.

P.S.
 ironic but one promise Jemes finally done- he stopped text me every day!

[Dogedigital]

I already pm  Dogedigital for more info about JL, since he helps him launch betting website , any information would be useful.

P.S.
 ironic but one promise Jemes finally done- he stopped text me every day!

I'm a bit confused.  I'll help out if I can, but I'm not too familiar with a James Lent (although I know I've seen the name before).  Does he go by any other name?

[zazarb]

I already pm  Dogedigital for more info about JL, since he helps him launch betting website , any information would be useful.

P.S.
 ironic but one promise Jemes finally done- he stopped text me every day!

I'm a bit confused.  I'll help out if I can, but I'm not too familiar with a James Lent (although I know I've seen the name before).  Does he go by any other name?

As I knowledge, no.
He shows me this screenshot of your conversation on 29th March:

[Dogedigital]

I already pm  Dogedigital for more info about JL, since he helps him launch betting website , any information would be useful.

P.S.
 ironic but one promise Jemes finally done- he stopped text me every day!

I'm a bit confused.  I'll help out if I can, but I'm not too familiar with a James Lent (although I know I've seen the name before).  Does he go by any other name?

As I knowledge, no.
He show me this screenshot of your conversation on 29th March:

I do recall that conversation.  Nothing materialized out of it. I don't believe any whatsapp conversation took place either.

[yulluxy]

Well got scammed by him as well, was promised 50% monthly returns on my investment(looking back very unrealistic and should have never taken the bait) on a total of around 4 BTC+.

Basically the same thing as zazarb, constantly empty promises, at the end started to ignore me, brought up his uncle and yakuza in Japan as excuses etc.

Offered me luxury watches as well which i did say i accepted but in the end never materialised. Worst of all, he wasted close to a year of my time. Anyways the site that was the setup of the scam http://betnwin.co was already down and he hasn't been on for 2 months, can't really expect anything imo. In the end i offered to get this settled without interest, he didn't do anything.

[Zepher]

Well got scammed by him as well, was promised 50% monthly returns on my investment(looking back very unrealistic and should have never taken the bait) on a total of around 4 BTC+.

Basically the same thing as zazarb, constantly empty promises, at the end started to ignore me, brought up his uncle and yakuza in Japan as excuses etc.

Offered me luxury watches as well which i did say i accepted but in the end never materialised. Worst of all, he wasted close to a year of my time. Anyways the site that was the setup of the scam http://betnwin.co was already down and he hasn't been on for 2 months, can't really expect anything imo. In the end i offered to get this settled without interest, he didn't do anything.

Another Ouch.

So the amount that James Lent owes is now approaching ~15 BTC. That is a substantial amount of money to pay back, especially if you no longer have any BTC.

Sorry to hear about the loss yulluxy. I didn't know James at all, though I obviously saw him on the forum over time. Don't have a clue whether he is going to return, or whether he is gone for good.

[audaciousbeing]

This guy must really be an MVP to have pulled something like this out and I don't see the practicality of you recovering your fund even at this time when the value in relation to BTC has even tripled compared to the time he borrowed the funds. And one of the issue of crypto borrowing because if it had been a case of Fiat, a lot of verification would have happen and there is hardly an chance of default because of the value of collateral that would have been submitted. Aside that, there wont be a way to borrow from another bank without first clearing the one borrowed as there is a database for defaulters. Now its obvious he does not want to pay and because he knows he cannot be touched, he feels the best is to buy time by virtue of the several postponements he has done in the past.

[jogoma12]

Well got scammed by him as well, was promised 50% monthly returns on my investment(looking back very unrealistic and should have never taken the bait) on a total of around 4 BTC+.

Basically the same thing as zazarb, constantly empty promises, at the end started to ignore me, brought up his uncle and yakuza in Japan as excuses etc.

Offered me luxury watches as well which i did say i accepted but in the end never materialised. Worst of all, he wasted close to a year of my time. Anyways the site that was the setup of the scam http://betnwin.co was already down and he hasn't been on for 2 months, can't really expect anything imo. In the end i offered to get this settled without interest, he didn't do anything.

If its too good to be true its a scam...

[Timelord2067]

Did any of the wire payments actually come from Japan?

[zazarb]

Did any of the wire payments actually come from Japan?

he has not made any wire transfer from nowhere. He only show me screenshot (27 Apr 200017) that 2800usd sent successful to my bank,
but it does not show either the identity of the bank or the person, only account number. The money never arrived. He daily, during month, pm'ed me that I will receive them "tomorrow", "this weekend" and so on.
At the end, few day  he claimed that I have to wait for a call from his bank(I never got), then switch to other stories...

[Timelord2067]

Accounts Connected:

xetsr, crazyivan, Minerjoe, coindetective, Bitcoin-Police, james.lent, mrsalve, bapparabi, windale, jonatuzc, Daffadile, SanaButt, Sweetbtc, UKUSA22, rphk,

Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg24181870#msg24181870

Archive: http://archive.is/PdX42#selection-3281.0-3385.6

[Timelord2067]

Accounts Connected:

xetsr, crazyivan, Minerjoe, coindetective, Bitcoin-Police, james.lent, mrsalve, bapparabi, windale, jonatuzc, Daffadile, SanaButt, Sweetbtc, UKUSA22, rphk,

Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg24181870#msg24181870

Archive: http://archive.is/PdX42#selection-3281.0-3385.6

With additions / contributions in the Known User Thread, the list now looks like this:

22 Accounts Connected:

xetsr, crazyivan, JasonXG, Minerjoe, coindetective, Bitcoin-Police, james.lent, mrsalve, bapparabi, windale, jonatuzc, posternat, Oralmat, Qunenin, Daffadile, dipkiss, SanaButt, salmanahmedone, BitcoinPC, Sweetbtc, UKUSA22, rphk,

Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg24205732#msg24205732 (Archive: http://archive.is/ztJBB#selection-8317.0-8445.2 )

[magneto]

Timelord, i still don't get how you managed to connect xetsr with james.lent? They were obviously both loan scammers and both took out a loan from zazarb but really their similarities end there.

This seems like a classic example of a scammer who is playing the time game, though. Excuses after excuses.

I'm guessing now that zazarb's opened this accusation, nobody has heard from james since, even though he's been active lately on the forums?(or at least signing in actively). Also, it's kinda ironic looking back at all the negs he has given out to loan scammers.

[zazarb]

Timelord, i still don't get how you managed to connect xetsr with james.lent? They were obviously both loan scammers and both took out a loan from zazarb but really their similarities end there.

This seems like a classic example of a scammer who is playing the time game, though. Excuses after excuses.

I'm guessing now that zazarb's opened this accusation, nobody has heard from james since, even though he's been active lately on the forums?(or at least signing in actively). Also, it's kinda ironic looking back at all the negs he has given out to loan scammers.

I am sure, no conection between jemes and xetsr.
 As for jemes activity, he continue regularly texted me with the same promise, and bullshit, two week ago he claimed that already purchased 2 BTC(as part of amount) and just need collect it...recently he said major obstacle to return loan , this scam accusation thread...because does not sell  anyone btc to  him (for cash)...absurdity..

[cdtc]

Interesting, need more info.

[Timelord2067]

Timelord, i still don't get how you managed to connect xetsr with james.lent? They were obviously both loan scammers and both took out a loan from zazarb but really their similarities end there.

This seems like a classic example of a scammer who is playing the time game, though. Excuses after excuses.

I'm guessing now that zazarb's opened this accusation, nobody has heard from james since, even though he's been active lately on the forums?(or at least signing in actively). Also, it's kinda ironic looking back at all the negs he has given out to loan scammers.

Sorry I missed seeing this post earlier, I've been busy with work when I haven't been on the road.

I connected the core group previously, then I make the assertion that xetsr and james.lent are connected to the ends via the dates being more than coincidental.  Some people can see the connections; some people can't unless it involves wallet addresses and the like.

If you also look at the three who defaulted, the amount loaned grows noticeably - I'd say the first loan was genuine, the second to cover the first and then when (for what ever reason - gambling comes to mind) the second loan's funds were gone, the third loan was a go-for-broke loan to either cover all previous losses, or to enable the person to walk away from their BCT UID's.

If I've misspelled xetsr then it is just xetsr that I am referring to, not any other UID that may have a similar spelling.

Any fresh leads can be found in this thread:

[User Generated Mk III] - Known alts of anyone Mk III

Still unmoderated - still hunting scammers and their alts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0

I am sure, no conection between jemes and xetsr.
 As for jemes activity, he continue regularly texted me with the same promise, and bullshit, two week ago he claimed that already purchased 2 BTC(as part of amount) and just need collect it...recently he said major obstacle to return loan , this scam accusation thread...because does not sell  anyone btc to  him (for cash)...absurdity..

Closing in on $20k per BitCoin, I can't see it happening myself.

[zazarb]

It's been almost a month, when I do not hear anything from him...

[zazarb]

Stopped communicating completely(via whatsapp),
 I'll not surprised if he is already have other account here...

[zazarb]

Just bump topic, if someone have news about him (no communication  since New Year)

[JeromeTash]

I came to this thread because I started seeing james.lent's tags under trusted feedback. I am not sure who in my circles of trusted members has him in their custom trust list. This members may want to review their custom lists just in case they are not aware of James.lent's loan default. Meanwhile, I am distrusting him.

james.lent's judgement is Trusted by:
1. mnightwaffle (Trust: +10 / =3 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Cryptology (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Fakhoury (Trust: +6 / =0 / -2) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Kiritsugu (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (41 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Zeroxal (Trust: +26 / =1 / -0) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. mexxer-3 was chosen (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.

[Timelord2067]

@JeromeTash - even now, zazarb does not distrust james.lent

Make of that what you will.

[zazarb]

@JeromeTash - even now, zazarb does not distrust james.lent

Make of that what you will.

Corrected