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February 16, 2014, 01:27:24 PM
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How do I resend a transaction with extra fee?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thing waiting 48-72 hours is sometimes not necessary.
If you send transaction with very low or no fees it will not propagate in the network very well. It might even get stuck after being announced to a few nodes. If you send coins again with the fee and use only the nodes that has not received your first low-fee transaction then you do not have to wait more than several minutes. Using only uninformed nodes should not be difficult as this will be majority of network (your low-fee transaction is stuck only on several nodes.)

I think you are right but i really want to know how to use nodes that has not received your first low-fee transaction because i sent 0.01btc from blockcain.info with 0 fee and it wasn't refunding those coins after 24hours so i decided to double-spend on my bitcoin qt 0.8.6 while it was synchronizing(about 20hours behind or so) and no active conections to the network i sent those coins and then i checked the tranasctions id on blockchain.info/tx and other blockchain explorers it sayed that tranasction dose not exist what could be wrong and why and why does this happens?

It is difficult to choose nodes manually. I think it is actually possible with some low-level approach. (Probing nodes by IP, accumulating more nodes addresses, requesting specific txids form nodes, connecting selectively to such nodes that do not know about previous transaction.) But I do not know if you have to modify and recompile your client or if it can be done by RPC calls. It is quite difficult both ways.
What I actually meant was not to try this manually, but hope that your low-fee transaction is either:
- too low fee and thus unpropagated and thus it is only matter of time and trying to double spend
- reasonable fee and thus well propagated and it is only matter of time when someone will include it
(so it should work automatically)

Unfortunately in this case, blockchain.info has some very well connected nodes and it sends transaction to big part of the network. So you can not double spend, because low-fee transaction is both of above :-/. Both well propagated (due to blockchain.info initial propagation is always well) and too low fee (that is why it does not propagate further and why it is not included by miner). When you try to double-spend, all nodes you connect to probably already know about prior low-fee transactions.

I think, you can only wait and if AFTER rescan you will not see your previous (unconfirmed) transaction, you have chance to double spend. Or maybe the transaction will get included in low-fee variant after all. But, again, you have to wait :-/.
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February 26, 2014, 01:54:12 PM
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I tought transactions are allmost instant and there is no fee. That was reasons i bolieved btc is better than plastic. Who get that Bitcoins from fees anyway?
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March 03, 2014, 09:24:16 PM
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Im having a small problem with the blockchain today. Its been close to 3 hours and no confirmations....even though my QT wallet says 11 confirmations. I paid the recommended fees and checked the propagation and shows network at 26% with about 700 nodes connected....so will this transaction go through or do I have to rebroadcast or reload backup wallet?

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March 03, 2014, 10:24:29 PM
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All set guys....blockchain was extremely slow today

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May 29, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
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What is transactions, how these works, how to buy bitcoin, how to earn?

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June 15, 2014, 11:24:08 PM
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What is transactions, how these works, how to buy bitcoin, how to earn?

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Start here: http://www.coindesk.com/information/

Then look up bitcoin on wikipedia
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June 23, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
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I was just going to ask about this because I'm getting a lot of those type of messages in my error log as well transaction already spent? I just sent some money in exchange for paypal, and I don't want to come across as untrustworthy, I'm keeping in contact with the seller but I really want to know if there's some way to fix this? I feel really bad that this isn't work out faster or better for me and him but I have no idea why it's not working faster.

For reference I have the 64 bit bitcoin-qt and I'm on semi slow internet. It wasn't a large amount (about 50 bucks worth) so it really shouldn't take this long right? I sent it over an hour or so ago, it should have at least one confirmed but it's not.

What else could I say?
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June 24, 2014, 12:07:23 AM
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I was just going to ask about this because I'm getting a lot of those type of messages in my error log as well transaction already spent? I just sent some money in exchange for paypal, and I don't want to come across as untrustworthy, I'm keeping in contact with the seller but I really want to know if there's some way to fix this? I feel really bad that this isn't work out faster or better for me and him but I have no idea why it's not working faster.

For reference I have the 64 bit bitcoin-qt and I'm on semi slow internet. It wasn't a large amount (about 50 bucks worth) so it really shouldn't take this long right? I sent it over an hour or so ago, it should have at least one confirmed but it's not.

Did you pay a fee?  What was the transaction?  (This should probably not be in the FAQ section though).
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June 26, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
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Hello!
Thanks! This post is really helpful! I was going to start a new topic but this post solved my answers. I found a site all about confirmation :- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Confirmation . Maybe it will help some.  Smiley
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June 28, 2014, 04:48:51 AM
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Hello am new here pls i have some problem ad i need u guyz to help me out, i sed some bitcoin ad up to now i have not see the fun

http://https://blockchain.info/tx/d879aec8e7923ae55224d2288e7e03e379b3d1cfcc4aa338b548dad367d67c66

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June 28, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
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I couldn't understand what is your problem. I saw your photos but still confusing.
Can't you send btc to other address? Is that your problem? Can you explain?

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August 06, 2014, 05:03:08 AM
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One thing that worked for me is spending the change from my no-fee transaction with a fee high enough to cover both. It still took longer than usual but they were both confirmed within an hour or two.

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August 09, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Last edit: August 09, 2014, 02:19:22 PM by dpoigjql
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Well ok,

I've had two transaction unconfirmed (sent by blockchain), definitely don't have any HD space nor connexion allowing me to install btc qt, etc...

https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/da08920045d17cbb983bd4079760ef5446a717fc8742d4128a3319e3048d4957

https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/0081fad7a9fa9524ae735b3bddb85473e655d56bd868de3d529d9025fbf4f3c2

I promise a bounty to whoever manages to help me -help hem go through?- with that (0.016 or so...).
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August 09, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
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Well ok,

I've had two transaction unconfirmed (sent by blockchain), definitely don't have any HD space nor connexion allowing me to install btc qt, etc...

https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/da08920045d17cbb983bd4079760ef5446a717fc8742d4128a3319e3048d4957

https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/0081fad7a9fa9524ae735b3bddb85473e655d56bd868de3d529d9025fbf4f3c2

I promise a bounty to whoever manages to help me -help hem go through?- with that (0.016 or so...).

One already got 6 confirmations but the other will take some time. It is stated that it has medium priority. So Wait for 1 day, it will be done, IMO.

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September 04, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
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http://blockchain.info/nl/tx/ae6cd73bd91431086a62ac6347c94b7143c57250ce314e2cc0d8cf3c92846577

Does someone know why this is still unconfirmed Huh

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September 04, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
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It isnt, but according to the link you paid no fee. This usually leads to your TX waiting for a long time till a miner finally takes a heart* and confirmes it.

* thats not techincally acurate.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 04, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
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It isnt, but according to the link you paid no fee. This usually leads to your TX waiting for a long time till a miner finally takes a heart* and confirmes it.

* thats not techincally acurate.

it's already confirmed after renewing the QT.

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September 07, 2014, 11:54:48 AM
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And I expect a payment 11Btc a week and seems to have been stolen from a node in this p2pool http://203.86.204.25:9332/-gce9e5a2 13.4-40 25.2259 783 258 0314 9.87 NZ WELLINGTON, WELLINGTON 

May I ask you why you are posting here? Smiley it isn't the correct section. Please start a new thread to get most help from others. Good Luck! Smiley

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September 17, 2014, 02:47:06 AM
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  • Do nothing, it should confirm itself within a week.
A week? Seriously???
Within a week. I stated this because confirmation time varies wildly. Don't want people getting upset their transaction didn't get confirmed within the average confirmation time. Worst case scenario IMO is a 0 fee transaction that normally would require a fee. Last time I sent such a transaction, it was confirmed overnight.

that's more like it, a week is really too long for me.
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December 24, 2014, 09:17:04 AM
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I was just going to ask about this because I'm getting a lot of those type of messages in my error log as well transaction already spent? I just sent some money in exchange for paypal, and I don't want to come across as untrustworthy, I'm keeping in contact with the seller but I really want to know if there's some way to fix this? I feel really bad that this isn't work out faster or better for me and him but I have no idea why it's not working faster.

For reference I have the 64 bit bitcoin-qt and I'm on semi slow internet. It wasn't a large amount (about 50 bucks worth) so it really shouldn't take this long right? I sent it over an hour or so ago, it should have at least one confirmed but it's not.
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