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November 01, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
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The signature is just missing the '=', so here's the actual full signed message w/o any unwanted characters enclosed in quotes:
Now I see it. Thanks. I usually look for errors in the message.

Address: "14PzFeS53AoERv5MiWEAeWxDCvZZMT37Jf"
Message: "Fuck ognasty from eoakland"
Signature: "INvEoeCw408t6NKmCfXgx8U6qLjXpN6gIjjsSC4YmE8hN9eKv8nXFf79n5vmcGyLpnYHhQterdRBNpC z4FnpGz4="
This does indeed verify. However, signing a text like that is not exactly what you want to be doing if you want the negative rating to go away.

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The signature is just missing the '=', so here's the actual full signed message w/o any unwanted characters enclosed in quotes:
Now I see it. Thanks. I usually look for errors in the message.

Address: "14PzFeS53AoERv5MiWEAeWxDCvZZMT37Jf"
Message: "Fuck ognasty from eoakland"
Signature: "INvEoeCw408t6NKmCfXgx8U6qLjXpN6gIjjsSC4YmE8hN9eKv8nXFf79n5vmcGyLpnYHhQterdRBNpC z4FnpGz4="
This does indeed verify. However, signing a text like that is not exactly what you want to be doing if you want the negative rating to go away.

I never deserved it to begin with. I started out polite enough and explained myself to nasty when i really had no reason to do so.  He has gotten his rocks off on it.  What exactly did he neg me for....changing my PW, taking a break from the forum?   Now he added some bs about me trolling.  The dude (nasty) is a flat out bully.  

What exactly is the infraction that was committed to warrant a neg ?  The guy is acting like a forum narc and barked up the wrong tree.  He abused his rank to ruin my account, and yet he claims i am attempting to ruin his name and projects he is involved in, when in fact he did this to me. The dude's wiring is off.  

This is as much a black-eye on his face as it is on mine (if not more).  So when i signed the message "fuck ognasty" i meant it and still do, fuck that puto.  

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November 01, 2017, 04:44:07 PM
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I never deserved it to begin with. I started out poite enough and explained myself to nasty when i really had no reason to do so.  He has gotten his rocks off on it.  What exactly did he neg me for....changing my PW, taking a break from the forum?   Now he added some bs about me trolling.  The dude (nasty) is a flat out bully.  
Well, your name randomly popping up in that scam accusation against OgNasty was strange to me as well. I did look into your account, but wasn't too sure about tagging you.

What exactly is the infraction that was committed to warrant a neg ?  
Well, people interpret stuff differently and thus also respond differently.

He abused his rank to ruin my account, and yet he claims i am attempting to ruin his name and projects he is involved in, when in fact he did this to me.
Did you? I either have missed out on that or you did not. I thought your first comment about OgNasty was supportive, but now I can't seem to find it.

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I never deserved it to begin with. I started out poite enough and explained myself to nasty when i really had no reason to do so.  He has gotten his rocks off on it.  What exactly did he neg me for....changing my PW, taking a break from the forum?   Now he added some bs about me trolling.  The dude (nasty) is a flat out bully.  
Well, your name randomly popping up in that scam accusation against OgNasty was strange to me as well. I did look into your account, but wasn't too sure about tagging you.

What exactly is the infraction that was committed to warrant a neg ?  
Well, people interpret stuff differently and thus also respond differently.

He abused his rank to ruin my account, and yet he claims i am attempting to ruin his name and projects he is involved in, when in fact he did this to me.
Did you? I either have missed out on that or you did not. I thought your first comment about OgNasty was supportive, but now I can't seem to find it.

Yep, my initial post was supportive. He negged my account for posting a supportive comment on an open forum thread.  It's not like i drudged up a super old thread, prior post was 1 or 2 days prior to my own.  The dude is a bully point-blank.  Even after all of his points to neg my account were proven false he has doubled down on his losing bet. 

As Conor McGregor would say "fook him"

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November 01, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
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Give people just a little bit more authority than everyone else and it all goes to their head, from tagging people they simply don't like to extorting "criminals". Meanwhile people that should be tagged run the most blatant scams over and over again. Great trust system we got there.

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November 02, 2017, 12:00:05 AM
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his neg trust got me booted from a signature campaign and it will keep me out of any future campaigns.

This is exactly why i was so pissed.  I preserved my account in good standing for several years only to have this butt head ruin it and any possible btc i would have made by participating in forum campaigns.  This ain't right at all. 

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November 02, 2017, 10:31:00 AM
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Yep, my initial post was supportive. He negged my account for posting a supportive comment on an open forum thread. 
This is what surprised me the most though. I would have expected him to neg. rate you, given the indicators of a sold/hacked accounts, if you had posted a comment supporting TMAN's accusation. However, you did the exact opposite.

his neg trust got me booted from a signature campaign and it will keep me out of any future campaigns.
Yeah. It is not likely that you're going to get enrolled anywhere.

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November 02, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
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OGNasty proven scammer at this point!
"Proven", "scammer", really? Roll Eyes

Your account suddenly got really active / spammy. Also, there's a posting gap between 2015 and 2017. Some things are obvious.

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OGNasty proven scammer at this point!

I can't verify/vouch the proven scammer part, but definitely abuses his rank--that is 100% certain.

And what's with folks getting irritated with accounts that take a break from the forum; when exactly did that become a frowned upon ?

This forum has changed night and day from the time i initially joined.  When Donators neg accounts for posting supportive opinions on an open thread you know things need to change. Just read the bogus neg i got.  Not once in those several PMs did he ask me for a signed msg to prove my ID.  He was too busy getting off on his "power trip" .  Now both the butthead's account and my own sport that same retarded negative trust.  The trust/reputation rating is definitely compromised and broken. Things need to change.

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November 02, 2017, 10:40:54 PM
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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
The Trust system works fairly well if the self policing works.

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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
The Trust system works fairly well if the self policing works.


Good looking out; Thanks!

i didnt even know that was possible.  I will see if i can find info within the forums search function to find out how to do so.  Enjoy your day boss

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November 03, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
Two DT1 exclusions won't kick out another DT1 member. What would that accomplish?

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November 03, 2017, 11:16:53 AM
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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
Two DT1 exclusions won't kick out another DT1 member. What would that accomplish?

Where did you get the 2 exclusions from? You would have to get more than 2.

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November 03, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
Two DT1 exclusions won't kick out another DT1 member. What would that accomplish?

Where did you get the 2 exclusions from? You would have to get more than 2.
I figured that since: 1 DT1 inclusion is *disabled* by 2 DT1 exclusions (which is what temporarily happened to me) once, that the same goes for higher up.

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November 03, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
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The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
Two DT1 exclusions won't kick out another DT1 member. What would that accomplish?

Where did you get the 2 exclusions from? You would have to get more than 2.
I figured that since: 1 DT1 inclusion is *disabled* by 2 DT1 exclusions (which is what temporarily happened to me) once, that the same goes for higher up.

Good point, maybe we need Cyrus or Theymos to clarify this.

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Good point, maybe we need Cyrus or Theymos to clarify this.
There was a exclusion test once, but I don't want to say who was participating in it, and 2 DT1 exclusions of another DT1 member did absolutely nothing. Therefore, it was always my belief that DT1 members can never kick out another DT1 member. IMO ask theymos.

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Good point, maybe we need Cyrus or Theymos to clarify this.
There was a exclusion test once, but I don't want to say who was participating in it, and 2 DT1 exclusions of another DT1 member did absolutely nothing. Therefore, it was always my belief that DT1 members can never kick out another DT1 member. IMO ask theymos.

Then that would kill off the "self policing" theory and toss it back to Theymos.

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I can confirm that OGNasty abused his rank to give me a blatant lie negative feedback about my account in good standing.

I gave him a negative feedback for promoting the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam and thereafter he extorted me to remove this feedback or otherwise he will give me the negative feedback that my account is an alt of TwitchySeal:

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Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service

Hole story with proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg16251261#msg16251261



 
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I can confirm that OGNasty abused his rank to give me a blatant lie negative feedback about my account in good standing.

I gave him a negative feedback for promoting the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam and thereafter he extorted me to remove this feedback or otherwise he will give me the negative feedback that my account is an alt of TwitchySeal:

Quote from: OGNasty
Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service

Hole story with proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg16251261#msg16251261



 

It appears this is not an isolated instance.  There seems to be a pattern that has formed with rank abuse and "painting accounts red".

I was always under the impression you neg someone for scams and for cheating someone on a transaction...since when do we neg on unproven suspicion...then double down on the losing bet when it is proven the suspicion is incorrect ? This is blatant abuse no way around it. 
Anyone reading the PMs between me and the butthead can see he was getting off on being a dick and ego tripping.  I wonder how ballsy that person is in real life when dealing with someone face to face...my money is on not very, fetal position all day every day for that person.  🤣😂



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Msgs have been sent, no update.  Perhaps nothing can be done--just does not seem right.  Blatant abuse.

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