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December 21, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
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I think eeh raises a good point. If mainstream writers have support to get over any biases against free culture licenses, there's the potential for a ton of great writers to port a lot of great content to devtome. Because they don't get paid right now (or get paid very little) for creating, and devtome exists expressly to pay creators. So maybe (again, not informed enough to have a real opinion, but this is just a possibility) what devtome needs is more writers putting in 100k words, rather than a lower max word count. Advertising has been plugged a lot in this thread as the way to do that, but I think in conjunction with that, devtome needs to look safe and reliable to a non-hacker audience. Right now that's hard for a layperson to judge because of the visuals of devtome, the variability in quality, and the bias in language of a lot of the main pages toward people who understand the code of all this.

The two most immediate solutions I see are to continue to improve the quality control system and be in open communication about it (which seems like an active, on-going process as this discussion demonstrates), and to get a page up written for the layperson about earnings (which I'm drafting).

It is not a max number of words really, just a max number that get paid out in one "round" of payouts.

One of the underlying limitations is that there only 4000 "blocks" (on the "blockchain") per "round", and our code only supports fifths of a share granularity, meaning only five people can get paid in any one "block".

Thus even if each person to be paid only gets paid one fifth of a share, we can currently only pay 5 * 4000 = 20000 people per "round".

Thus in essence each 1/5 of a share you get is 1/5 of a share someone else isn't getting, and we can only support a max of 20000 recipients per round with our current code.

20000 recipients sounds like a lot, but even supposing we only had 200 recipients, for any one of them to get more than 100 * 1/5 of a share (20 shares) would require at least one other of them not to be able to get that many shares.

So the code/capability in place already prevents us from issuing all 200 people in such a scenario any more than at least a full 20 shares each. For someone to get 80 shares, three others of the 200 people would have to get none, or 60 others of them only get 19, etc.

TL;DR there are only ever 4000 shares total in a round, maximum. (Thus up to 20,000 1/5ths of a share.)

-MarkM-


So Devcoin would have to increase quite a bit in value to support up to 20,000 shares and have it be worth it to individual contributors. Which I guess helps explain more why have a maximum per round and roll the rest over.
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December 21, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
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request at unocoin (Indian btc site) to add DVC
https://www.unocoin.com/contact.php

Done.  Everyone please do this!
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December 21, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
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Applied to earn devcoins by developing, e-mailed metazilla 10 days ago. Should I keep waiting or assume that I don't fully qualify?

develCuy's posts at steemitDevcoin on Telegram  |  Devcoin - from the many, one. From one, the source
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December 21, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
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Hi all, I am happy to report that I have finished the devcoin.org site redesign:

http://devcoin.org/

Thanks to Weisoq for his wiki page and whoever created the Devcoin press release that went out a couple of weeks ago - really saved me a lot of time compiling the content.

Let me know what you guys think - I will be sticking around as the new Devcoin web guy so I can certainly make edits and additions going forward.
Awesome work! Love it! Cheesy

Nice, looks realy good!! Is there going to be a forum on devcoin.org ?
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December 21, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
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request at unocoin (Indian btc site) to add DVC
https://www.unocoin.com/contact.php

Done.  Everyone please do this!

Done, also send a request to http://bex.io
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December 21, 2013, 06:53:24 PM
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I just looked at the round 31 account file to check my wordcount and noticed under "Devtome Earnings" that the line with my username, address, and wordcount has been deleted. I recently put subheadings on my user page on devtome because I had seen some other users do that and I abhor a long list without them, but could that be messing with the script that does the wordcount?

Yes it does mess with devtome.py, because a heading looks like the end of the invoice section. Only put simple text in the invoice, not headings.


How can I run the scripts to get an up-to-date version of devtome.py, with new analytics, word counts, etc.?

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December 21, 2013, 08:05:33 PM
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congratulations to the new design of devcoin.org

That's what I wanted to see...

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December 21, 2013, 08:23:55 PM
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Congrats!!! The new Devtome looks great. I was wondering what's going on with the site.
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December 21, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
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I only joined Devtome a couple of days ago but already have articles up on the Devtome page. Do the articles have to be added to the link tree of the topics section by admin before they will be counted by the script?
No the script only 'reads' your page, but it's very helpful to include a category at the base of your articles and then add them to 'Most Recent'. It can take a while between doing that and then adding to the link tree. With hits and popularity now also a (smaller) factor in earnings, doing that also increases your earnings potential.
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December 21, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
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I only joined Devtome a couple of days ago but already have articles up on the Devtome page. Do the articles have to be added to the link tree of the topics section by admin before they will be counted by the script?
No the script only 'reads' your page, but it's very helpful to include a category at the base of your articles and then add them to 'Most Recent'. It can take a while between doing that and then adding to the link tree. With hits and popularity now also a (smaller) factor in earnings, doing that also increases your earnings potential.
Is there a way to run the script to get an updated earnings multiplier?

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December 21, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
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request at unocoin (Indian btc site) to add DVC
https://www.unocoin.com/contact.php

Done.  Everyone please do this!

Done, also send a request to http://bex.io

I had a reply from http://bex.io i send him a link of the new website http://devcoin.org/get-devcoin.html


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No immediately, but we will be adding Alt Coins in 2014

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Love what Dev Coin is trying to accomplish, lots of possibilities between the crypto currency and quantified self movements.

Thanks for the mention

Jesse

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So that was a verry cool reply from Jesse to all you guys , who are making this happen.

Great job everyone! Respect

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December 21, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
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Yeah, I think an FAQ is a great idea. The short answers can be listed traditional FAQ style, and links can go to more detailed articles.
I've started a general FAQ page - just notes and potential links for devcoin.org. Think it would be helpful if as many people as possible suggest questions and answers - particularly in areas they know most about (or areas they don't understand so more info would be useful for) http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_faq

Smeagol - There are instructions http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin#generating_the_files but I don't know if this updates multiplier before end of round.
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December 21, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
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Hi all, I am happy to report that I have finished the devcoin.org site redesign:

http://devcoin.org/

Thanks to Weisoq for his wiki page and whoever created the Devcoin press release that went out a couple of weeks ago - really saved me a lot of time compiling the content.

Let me know what you guys think - I will be sticking around as the new Devcoin web guy so I can certainly make edits and additions going forward.
Great work hypersire. I really like the clean, snapshot look, so this feedback is only minor things really:

*Front page:
Scrolls a bit too quickly?
Step 2: 'Devcoins can be merge mined with Bitcoin, earned by developing, writing or completing tasks known as bounties, or purchased on various exchanges'.
Painters – can a painting be open source?
Open Source Outer Space - Start with 'Bounties are funded in line with market capitalization. When the...' just so context is clearer

*How it works - Purpose:
maybe at the end add a couple of current projects/people with ongoing funding (eg Open Transactions/Bitcoin QT)

-Specifications:
‘Retarget every day’ - does joe average know what this means?
Instead of '21 billion total coins', 'Coin supply is constant'.
Link on that page to more detail on devtome for those more technically minded, inc later maybe FAQ with more easy to understand explanations for non techs

*Get DVC - Earn Devcoins:
Think UTB changed that to msg metazilla on 'earn devcoins by developing' page? Might want to check with him how proposals are assessed.
Also link future bounties?

*Spend dvc:
Start with something like 'The primary use of Devcoins is in project funding' to underscore general ethos?
Add http://altcoincards.com/
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To add later

'Community' (eg Devcoin Forum, Reddit Devcoin, Devcoin IRC channel, Twitter, Facebook, this thread)
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December 21, 2013, 10:49:25 PM
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The Win32 devcoin QT and devcoind are not available for testing.. this is based on bitcoin 0.8.5 so a brand new wallet GUI was built. This needs testing. There were many features added to the UI including sending to multiple addresses at once, built in testnet UI from the QT application, and new RPC commands that didn't exist in devcoin before.

All of these things need testing on your machine(s)... so please head on over to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310280 to download the binaries or look at the source code!

Any feedback is welcome.

Anyone who can build on the different platforms outlined in the OP will help tremendously.

I think getting this out along with the new site is a good kickstart, and then my PR im going to do will bring in some solid investors looking for a stable platform.

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December 21, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
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I can be able to the qt images, which need to be replaced?

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December 21, 2013, 11:24:22 PM
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Hi all, I am happy to report that I have finished the devcoin.org site redesign:

http://devcoin.org/

Thanks to Weisoq for his wiki page and whoever created the Devcoin press release that went out a couple of weeks ago - really saved me a lot of time compiling the content.

Let me know what you guys think - I will be sticking around as the new Devcoin web guy so I can certainly make edits and additions going forward.

I like the new website so much.
I would like to make a german translation for this site. (and continue to update the translation as the website grows)

Where can I sign up for that?

Can I do this as my first job earning dvc?

Please explain how I should proceed.

I am sure a german translation will help
a) rank the site better within google
b) bring devcoin to the german speaking people of germany, austria and swiss. (all big fans of cryptocoins and opensource)



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December 21, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
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I can be able to the qt images, which need to be replaced?

Plz see the update thread
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December 21, 2013, 11:51:41 PM
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Here the first page as a test translation into german. It has some errors, I just wanted to show a first impression.
It would be great to have country flags at the bottom of the site.

It has some problems with the upper menu buttons, since german needs a little more longer words there, that's what made the layout burst.

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December 22, 2013, 01:51:28 AM
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Here the first page as a test translation into german. It has some errors, I just wanted to show a first impression.
It would be great to have country flags at the bottom of the site.

It has some problems with the upper menu buttons, since german needs a little more longer words there, that's what made the layout burst.

An issue is that devtome is only in English, so writers whose English is not good enough can not earn devcoins. I don't think a German translation is worth doing now. In the future, if devcoin value increases, we'll make a hardware site, and then it would be worth making a German translation for that site.

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December 22, 2013, 02:31:31 AM
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Here the first page as a test translation into german. It has some errors, I just wanted to show a first impression.
It would be great to have country flags at the bottom of the site.

It has some problems with the upper menu buttons, since german needs a little more longer words there, that's what made the layout burst.

An issue is that devtome is only in English, so writers whose English is not good enough can not earn devcoins. I don't think a German translation is worth doing now. In the future, if devcoin value increases, we'll make a hardware site, and then it would be worth making a German translation for that site.


I think it's still worth it. English is required curriculum in Germany and many other countries. I know quite a few people from Germany, Sweden, and Finland who speak better English than native English speakers, and that's just what they learned in school, not because their job required it or anything. English is also one of the lingua franca of Europe, so there's a lot of English discourse on the internet. Countries such as those also have a lot higher percentage of population that is into things like opensource and p2p.

Even though that audience would by default be able to read the page in English, including it in other languages is evidence of openness. Eventually that could lead to Devtome being a multi-lingual project. For now a writing sample could be required to see if their English meets standard.
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