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January 21, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
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The wallet page of Devcoin.org does not yet show the Android Wallet.
http://www.devcoin.org/devcoin-wallet.html

Is more testing of the Android Wallet needed?
Are other things holding up official release of this wallet?
Will it go into the Google playstore?
Anything I can do at this stage?
I updated translations did you see that? We need to wait until new client is released.

Yes, I confirmed this for Dutch.

So much has happened the last few month for this coin. With some proper PR, something good must come out of this.

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January 21, 2014, 05:50:10 PM
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Yay! Look at the current price per devcoin! https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=dvc&base=btc&locale=en
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January 21, 2014, 06:00:51 PM
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This Exchange just got a banking partner and can do wire transfers (soon) we should try to get them to take DevCoin as well.

http://www.coindesk.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-coinmkt-announces-us-banking-partner/

https://coinmkt.com/#/all_cryptocurrencies

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January 21, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
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Yay! Look at the current price per devcoin! https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=dvc&base=btc&locale=en
-AM
Indeed, nice jump. Last price 103 satoshis. Perhaps a DOGE-style shot to the moon is in order.  Smiley

This could also be due to DVC / BTC now trading on Cryptsy too! My petition was not in vain Wink

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Last edit: January 21, 2014, 07:24:32 PM by Bittzy78
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Yay! Look at the current price per devcoin! https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=dvc&base=btc&locale=en
-AM

It's the volume that is amazing me. Will it get to 100 Bitcoins on just Vircurex?


~ Ninja Edit ~

I just checked the volume again and it is 65 Bitcoin at Vircurex and 51 at Crypsy. If you sprinkle in the Litecoin trading, we are certainly headed in the right direction as far as liquidity goes.

Heck, just being the #2 traded coin on Vircurex for a couple of days in a row might get people really talking about it.

If this volume holds, I would expect to see wild price swings as the market tries to settle on what Devcoin is worth.




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January 21, 2014, 06:25:24 PM
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Hi all,

Is anyone working on an update to the Mac OS X GUI wallet client?

I recall FuzzyBear mentioning something about it in December.

I would be more than happy to help test it out.

The latest version dated August 2013 only works one time before you need to reinstall it.

thank you,

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January 21, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
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Yay! Look at the current price per devcoin! https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=dvc&base=btc&locale=en
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Indeed, nice jump. Last price 103 satoshis. Perhaps a DOGE-style shot to the moon is in order.  Smiley

This could also be due to DVC / BTC now trading on Cryptsy too! My petition was not in vain Wink

+1! Nice job psybits! I had no doubt that the LTC/DVC only pair on Cryptsy was holding it back.

Now we've got the BTC pair on Cryptsy, the new web site, a new web installer coming up... can't wait to see what happens when you launch the new press release!

It's been my feeling for a long time now that there is going to be a flood of money coming into cryptocurrencies and a full blown stampede of people pouring into a number of good ones. When I see the trading volumes for DOGE I start to think that the stampede is starting. Devcoin is definitely in the top tier of cryptocurrencies and has such a great philosophy behind it that I am constantly recommending it to all my friends and family  Smiley
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Collecting bounty:

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Also, 48 shares plus six million devcoins for the option for the Original Poster to add moderators.

coinzen.org now supports the OP of a thread adding their own moderators - including themselves, to their posts.

When you create a new post you will have an option below your name in your posts "Set Thread Moderators"

After clicking it you'll be able to add & remove moderators for your topics.

I tested it and it worked perfectly, the Adding Moderators bounty is awarded to Tenthirtyone. The adding moderators bounty is finished. I sent him my pledge of 6 million devcoins. Smeagol, please add him to the bounty list at:
devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_32.csv

I was able as Unthinkingbit to moderate a thread where I was added as a moderator:
http://coinzen.org/index.php?topic=4.msg45#msg45

I was able to add Llama as a moderator on an Unthinkingbit thread, and as Llama I could edit posts:
http://coinzen.org/index.php?topic=3.msg3#msg3

I was not able to moderate on threads were I was not added as a moderator.

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Hello, are all key feature of coinzen finished? I am eager to see that we have officially moved to the new forum Smiley

Enough features have been finished, the only thing lacking before I move over is to make subforums for other coins. Even though devcoin is funding the forum, the forum is meant for all coins. I want the subforums to be made before we move, because some subforums could be eliminated when stuff is moved around.


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I propose a 48 share bounty for whoever creates a devcoin wallet similar to that of the TREZOR Bitcoin wallet (http://www.bitcointrezor.com/).
Does anybody object to this?

Thanks,
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I tested it and it worked perfectly, the Adding Moderators bounty is awarded to Tenthirtyone. The adding moderators bounty is finished. I sent him my pledge of 6 million devcoins. Smeagol, please add him to the bounty list.

Done, to see the awarded shares visit
http://devticker.pw/business_bounty/business_bounty_32.csv

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January 21, 2014, 11:09:52 PM
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Hi all,

Is anyone working on an update to the Mac OS X GUI wallet client?

I recall FuzzyBear mentioning something about it in December.

I would be more than happy to help test it out.

The latest version dated August 2013 only works one time before you need to reinstall it.

thank you,

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Updates are being worked done for all clients. Apologies that's still going on - assumed it had been resolved.

Is anyone else having this problem with a mac?
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January 21, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
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I propose a 48 share bounty for whoever creates a devcoin wallet similar to that of the TREZOR Bitcoin wallet (http://www.bitcointrezor.com/).
Does anybody object to this?

Thanks,
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Yeah probably. What is it? What's the rationale? What steps would be required? etc
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I propose a 48 share bounty for whoever creates a devcoin wallet similar to that of the TREZOR Bitcoin wallet (http://www.bitcointrezor.com/).
Does anybody object to this?

Thanks,
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Yeah probably. What is it? What's the rationale? What steps would be required? etc

I'm against this as well right now. We have a lot of work to do before a hardware wallet is really needed. I could see this being something for the future though.
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Yay! Look at the current price per devcoin! https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=dvc&base=btc&locale=en
-AM
Indeed, nice jump. Last price 103 satoshis. Perhaps a DOGE-style shot to the moon is in order.  Smiley

This could also be due to DVC / BTC now trading on Cryptsy too! My petition was not in vain Wink

+1! Nice job psybits! I had no doubt that the LTC/DVC only pair on Cryptsy was holding it back.

Now we've got the BTC pair on Cryptsy, the new web site, a new web installer coming up... can't wait to see what happens when you launch the new press release!

It's been my feeling for a long time now that there is going to be a flood of money coming into cryptocurrencies and a full blown stampede of people pouring into a number of good ones. When I see the trading volumes for DOGE I start to think that the stampede is starting. Devcoin is definitely in the top tier of cryptocurrencies and has such a great philosophy behind it that I am constantly recommending it to all my friends and family  Smiley

Yea i said this in the dogecoin thread yesterday that the institutional investor era has now begun, they lookin for cheap coins to pump... and probably dump but we should see level stepping upwards on the long term charts. Funny that the very next day devcoin takes a leap.
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I agree that 50 would be good if it were done correctly, 100 - 150 would be better if it were done correctly. The thing is that through all the talking about it, the only thing that really stuck out was the idea was brought up and the first thing people wanted to talk about about was the name of the site. Really?! What about legal, the business rules / document, the data requirements, the security requirements, the payment processing and tax implications on the business. These are just a few of the things that have to be thought about. Is it going to be developed as an open source project and then let out in the wild for others to implement with their business rules? Was it going to be a business venture? There was no discussion about any of that, just really how the auctions would be held (which can't compete with Quibids, period) and about the name of the site. Can't see that being worth 50 shares when it was done. There would be too many problems with it. That is just that one particular project.

If there is a good project planned and put into action, I don't have a problem with giving them 200-500 shares if it is done correctly and shown that it will be maintained in the best interest of Devcoin. If iti s a piece of crap thrown together to get a bounty, then that isn't going to be in the best interest of the community in any way what so ever. It will just show that the community is out to make money at any cost (and I believe that 80-90% of the contributors are in this category) and the quality and effectiveness will suffer greatly.

Would it be better to then assign an admin (or team of) on a project management payroll, and have them build the project? They would serve as the connection to devcoin, and maybe have an allocation of shares per month or so to create bounties for work snippets. Devcoin bounties are great for getting snippets of code done, but not projects. All projects need some sort of project management to work well.
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Would it be better to then assign an admin (or team of) on a project management payroll, and have them build the project? They would serve as the connection to devcoin, and maybe have an allocation of shares per month or so to create bounties for work snippets. Devcoin bounties are great for getting snippets of code done, but not projects. All projects need some sort of project management to work well.

This may be doable. Depends on the group of admins chosen or who step forward I guess.

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::raises hand:: I have project management experience
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Also, 48 shares plus six million devcoins for the option for the Original Poster to add moderators.

coinzen.org now supports the OP of a thread adding their own moderators - including themselves, to their posts.

When you create a new post you will have an option below your name in your posts "Set Thread Moderators"

After clicking it you'll be able to add & remove moderators for your topics.


Cool,

a question about moderators - is anyone able to add anyone as a moderator? or just themselves? or just from a list of official forum mods?

I made one and put myself as moderator, seemed to work fine, but is that the intended design? Just curious how it's going to work.

::raises hand:: I have project management experience

Awesome, although should we see if someone who's not already an admin is willing to step up to the role? There is the factotum title too, for the extra staff behind a project...I don't know...Unthinkingbit? What's the deal with this? Is this a feasible idea to prototype a devcoin-managed business?
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January 22, 2014, 03:29:44 AM
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I agree that 50 would be good if it were done correctly, 100 - 150 would be better if it were done correctly. The thing is that through all the talking about it, the only thing that really stuck out was the idea was brought up and the first thing people wanted to talk about about was the name of the site. Really?! What about legal, the business rules / document, the data requirements, the security requirements, the payment processing and tax implications on the business. These are just a few of the things that have to be thought about. Is it going to be developed as an open source project and then let out in the wild for others to implement with their business rules? Was it going to be a business venture? There was no discussion about any of that, just really how the auctions would be held (which can't compete with Quibids, period) and about the name of the site. Can't see that being worth 50 shares when it was done. There would be too many problems with it. That is just that one particular project.

If there is a good project planned and put into action, I don't have a problem with giving them 200-500 shares if it is done correctly and shown that it will be maintained in the best interest of Devcoin. If iti s a piece of crap thrown together to get a bounty, then that isn't going to be in the best interest of the community in any way what so ever. It will just show that the community is out to make money at any cost (and I believe that 80-90% of the contributors are in this category) and the quality and effectiveness will suffer greatly.

Would it be better to then assign an admin (or team of) on a project management payroll, and have them build the project? They would serve as the connection to devcoin, and maybe have an allocation of shares per month or so to create bounties for work snippets. Devcoin bounties are great for getting snippets of code done, but not projects. All projects need some sort of project management to work well.

If the project is the creation of free open source software, fine, like bitcoin and Open Transactions it can, if it is mission-critical to Devcoin's mission, have some of its key developers receiving a share every round. (I am still not convinced it is mission-critical in any way though, quite the contrary I think it is a foolishly wasteful idea, that the publicity effort it would need to get anywhere would be far far better spent on trying to convince existing established auction sites to accept cryptocoins.)

If though you are still thinking of doing an auction site startup, probably the most important thing is how many hundreds of thousands of interested parties you have on your mailing list, how good your capture pages are at getting people onto your mailing list in the first place, how good your autoresponder series (the series of messages people on the mailing list automatically get sent in sequence once they are on the list) at eventually "converting" them and at getting them to come back to buy more stuff, what the retention rate is (how long before they unsubscribe/quit), and the average amount of money you end up extracting from each person before they unsubscribe/quit.

Advertising, aka "customer acquisition" is horribly expensive, often dollars per customer. Heck even just getting a visitor costs dollars per visitor in some fields, presumably someone will have already looked up how much e.g. Adwords charges per visitor for keywords related to auctions? Care to let us in on that little secret?

So you need someone very very experienced at getting hundreds of thousands of people to sign up for mailing lists and websites and at keeping them on the list and getting them back regularly to the website and extracting money from them while they are there.

I bought my house with money made from websites but that was back before the adult entertainment industry started buying up search engines and turning them into pay per click traffic engines. Nowadays it is really hard to get "natural" (as in "gratis") search engine traffic in any field that is commonly known to involve some nice amounts of money. Heck even "the long tail" is probably heavily congested, all kinds of obscure search phrases less and less obviously relating to auctions are probably being "worked" heavily already.

It would quite likely be much more effective to focus all that effort into "converting" existing sites into accepting Devcoin than to try to go up against them on their own keywords, their own field, their own years of search engine optimisation, their own years of A/B testing of capture pages and auto-responder sequences and so on and so on.

Probably a heck of a lot cheaper too.

We don't need more holes in the net to throw money into. Its not like we have more moeny than we can spend so need to come up with far fetched ideas like "lets try to go head to head against e-bay or quibids" to find ways to throw our money away.

The very fact that no one thinks it a good enough idea to "just do it" but instead keeps trying to get us to throw money at it kind of stinks. If it had an reasonable chance of being profitable someone would do it. Evidently only people who are imagining someone else's money being thorwn away instead of their own seem keen on the idea.

So how about instead come up with an idea you are so sure will be profitable that you are willign to pay for it yourself?

Or that you can so convincingly prove the profitability of that some Angel Investors will get on board and help you through to your first 'A' round of venture capital investment?

By the way, has everyone forgotten we already have quite a few websites on our road-map, domains already secured for a number of them, but that our market cap is not yet high enough for us to afford to start any of them yet?

I wonder if we will be able to start on one of them if this current exchange rate doesn't collapse too darn far too darn fast? Or are we also going to wait until we have Devtome at least covering its own cost before moving on to the next planned website?

Or is the forum going to be eating quite a bit of the website-subsidy budget?

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January 22, 2014, 03:41:38 AM
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@Hunterbunter, I set the BTC I wanted to put up as 0 in the shotgun bot and put DVC in as my entire balance, but when it placed the BTC/DVC buy orders, the bot cmd window closed.

Is that normal?

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