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December 21, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
Last edit: December 22, 2017, 12:06:56 AM by weisoq
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Have tidied up stuff on devtome. Contacts for any future access problems are here. If interested in keeping it going understand hosting could still do with contributions. Wikipedia have reinstated my devcoin article if anyone wants to keep content updated.

Was good to find this project at a difficult personal time, for constructive interaction with some similar-minded ideals. Things haven't turned out as I probably naively hoped, and using up btc for dvc support a hindsight bad error. But live and learn, and trust some of that made a positive difference to others. Hope you all agree on a way forward with the right incentive structures - growing big government and big business means new approaches to support OS development and open licensing are needed ever more. Good luck.
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I think Steemit is a good model to look at as far as the getting paid for writing concept goes. Participate in it (I know you already do, develcuy), study it, figure out a way to do it better, and then compete...

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Hi people, I'm Qtera, aka Cpsilent aka Silentwriter.  I'm responsible in the last couple of months for contacting the Open Source Projects to which we donate (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Donation-accepting_organizations_and_projects#Open_source), and as Unthinkingbit says in here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg22703497#msg22703497 the strategy is to fund them even more than we already do.

From all forty of those projects only seventeen entered in the share list. The method of contact them varied among projects: most of the time I used the good-old-and-faithful e-mail just fine, but I also got responses using forums and github.  The other ways to contact projects like reddit, twitter or gitlabs weren't successful at all.

From that list, there are five discontinued projects and possibly another one:  ArkOS, the Bluetile WM project, The FreeHal, TOR Chat and The PirateLinux distro. But in case of PirateLinux and Tor Chat, they are kind of special cases. Although the Piratelinux is halted, the developer would like to continue in the future and he even gave me his bitcoin address.(https://github.com/piratelinux/Pirate-Linux/issues/3) In case of the TOR Chat, the former developer told me that the project isn't currently maintained but that the address in there was his and it's active, and he only wants to get donations "...if you want to generally say thanks to me in general, not for this specific project.". In case of these two specific projects they are getting a year of donations to see if they resume their work, if not, the donations will stop.

Another case of posible discontinuance is OpenElec. They have no working email to contact them, but their forums seem active, at least until June 2017. I even logged into their irc channel and a user told me the project was dead. As it didn't seem something official or couldn't find its death clearly posted anywhere else, I opened a forum thread asking about it (http://openelec.tv/forum/23-feedback/84579-bitcoin-address-for-donations) and there are no answers so far.

Unthinkingbit and I agreed in giving the one-year grace period only to those projects which cared to answer back. However, I'm still waiting for an answer in this case.


The second category is for projects that don't receive bitcoin donations anymore. At the moment it's only OpenGameArt.org:

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A third category are the projects managed by external foundations, like FSF or GNOME Foundation for instance. In this case, fits MediaGoblin, GIMP and Replicant. Those are active projects, but fiscalized by sponsor organizations. For this reason they are still funded by us.

The projects that use a service like BitPay and Coinbase are RaspBMC (now OSMC, the project changed their name), TOR, Piwik (https://github.com/piwik/piwik/issues/12232#issuecomment-342360943), LibreOffice, Haiku OS, FreeBSD and Etherpad Foundation (https://groups.google.com/d/topic/etherpad-lite-dev/X4ostzJOlnc/discussion). In these cases they A) didn't want to switch, B) didn't provide an alternate bitcoin address or C) they simply didn't reply back. Their reasons are wide-ranging, but in most cases they stick to these services just for the simplicity and convenience.

Finally, the projects that use their own wallets and replied to my enquiry promptly are: Apache, DokuWiki, DosBox, Duplicati(https://forum.duplicati.com/t/bitcoin-donation-address-question/1106), Farmbot, Loomio, MegaGlest, OpenStreetMap, OsmAnd, TOR Servers, VideoLAN, and WikiSpeed.

So, counting the projects from category three, four and the two special cases, there will be founding for 17 projects from that original list. You can check the current complete share list for OS projects in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cpsilent/devcoinstuff/master/devcoinshare.html

Well, I think it's everything for now. Happy Holidays everybody!!!



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December 24, 2017, 05:39:40 PM
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I found the reason why the wallet was not synchronized.

I outlined the problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg25874905#msg25874905, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26546800#msg26546800, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26606174#msg26606174, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26608073#msg26608073, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26642100#msg26642100

I took the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ - the synchronization was stopped on block 303999
Similarly, with receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv from https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity - there is no synchronization

Today I installed a wallet for Windows and it has downloaded receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv. Their size and content differed from the one I downloaded earlier.
I found that receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv allowing to synchronize above block 303999 can be downloaded here
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/
http://d.evco.in/receiver/
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/
Thus, the contents of these files in different sources differ

In the left panel on the screenshot, the sizes of the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files with which the synchronization does not stop.
Those on the right are from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ and https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity and they do not allow synchronizing the blockchain above block 303999
Because of this, my DVC wallets could not work for quite a long time. Who should I thank for this?

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I found that receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv allowing to synchronize above block 303999 can be downloaded here
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/
http://d.evco.in/receiver/
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/

Uhmm I'm seeing the size of receiver_77.csv in all those three URLs the same as in http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ and https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity (6333), and the wallet doesn't let me synchronize above block 303999 yet. However, the size of receiver_76.csv is indeed different in those addresses.

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December 25, 2017, 12:19:49 AM
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I found that receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv allowing to synchronize above block 303999 can be downloaded here
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/
http://d.evco.in/receiver/
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/

Uhmm I'm seeing the size of receiver_77.csv in all those three URLs the same as in http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ and https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity (6333)

I did not find where the DVC wallet for Windows took the receiver_77.csv file for download.
But my receiver_77.csv downloaded from sources known to me differs in size from the receiver_77.csv downloaded through the wallet under Windows

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I found the reason why the wallet was not synchronized.

I outlined the problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg25874905#msg25874905, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26546800#msg26546800, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26606174#msg26606174, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26608073#msg26608073, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26642100#msg26642100

I took the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ - the synchronization was stopped on block 303999
Similarly, with receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv from https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity - there is no synchronization

Today I installed a wallet for Windows and it has downloaded receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv. Their size and content differed from the one I downloaded earlier.
I found that receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv allowing to synchronize above block 303999 can be downloaded here
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/
http://d.evco.in/receiver/
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/
Thus, the contents of these files in different sources differ

In the left panel on the screenshot, the sizes of the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files with which the synchronization does not stop.
Those on the right are from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ and https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity and they do not allow synchronizing the blockchain above block 303999
Because of this, my DVC wallets could not work for quite a long time. Who should I thank for this?
You are correct, thats now fixed (on devcoin.darkgamex.ch).

@Unthinkingbit: please revert the changes of receiver_76/77 in those files (git), since that broke everything. Then you are also back in sync. Meanwhile i've switching away from your repo to markm's files.

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December 27, 2017, 06:45:42 PM
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I found the reason why the wallet was not synchronized.

I outlined the problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg25874905#msg25874905, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26546800#msg26546800, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26606174#msg26606174, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26608073#msg26608073, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg26642100#msg26642100

I took the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ - the synchronization was stopped on block 303999
Similarly, with receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv from https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity - there is no synchronization

Today I installed a wallet for Windows and it has downloaded receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv. Their size and content differed from the one I downloaded earlier.
I found that receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv allowing to synchronize above block 303999 can be downloaded here
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/
http://d.evco.in/receiver/
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/
Thus, the contents of these files in different sources differ
http://crypto.office-on-the.net/img/dvc_303999_1.png
In the left panel on the screenshot, the sizes of the receiver_76.csv and receiver_77.csv files with which the synchronization does not stop.
Those on the right are from http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/ and https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity and they do not allow synchronizing the blockchain above block 303999
Because of this, my DVC wallets could not work for quite a long time. Who should I thank for this?

Hello everyone where can I exchange my coins???

@Unthinkingbit: please revert the changes of receiver_76/77 in those files (git), since that broke everything. Then you are also back in sync. Meanwhile i've switching away from your repo to markm's files.
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Hello
who knows where i can trade this coin???

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We need an exchange for devcoin, and the more exchanges the better. I suggest a 60 share bounty for the first person(s) to get devcoin on another exchange, 40 shares for the next person on another exchange, and 20 shares for the next. Any objections?

The proposal got four agreements, there were no objections, and four days have passed, so it is officially in force.

I looked over the list of cryptos charted on cryptocoincharts:
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/info

and went through the list and found that the following traded high numbers of altcoins:
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/abucoins
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/bittrex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/bleutrade
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/c-cex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/coinexchange
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/cryptopia
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/etherdelta
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/exmoney
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/exx
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/gateio
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/hitbtc
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/kucoin
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/liqui
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/livecoin
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/poloniex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/quoine
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/tidex

Also, Guido mentioned:
http://coinsmarkets.com/support.php

Please get devcoin on any exchange you can. The listed exchanges are just places to look, devcoin on any exchange would get the bounty.

who is the devcoin developer?
if he just fills in form they will add. or better still email them, they got back right away to me when i discussed another coin but I don't know all the specs.
so if dev can identify himself and fill form or email them we can finally have an exchange
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We need an exchange for devcoin, and the more exchanges the better. I suggest a 60 share bounty for the first person(s) to get devcoin on another exchange, 40 shares for the next person on another exchange, and 20 shares for the next. Any objections?

The proposal got four agreements, there were no objections, and four days have passed, so it is officially in force.

I looked over the list of cryptos charted on cryptocoincharts:
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/info

and went through the list and found that the following traded high numbers of altcoins:
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/abucoins
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/bittrex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/bleutrade
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/c-cex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/coinexchange
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/cryptopia
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/etherdelta
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/exmoney
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/exx
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/gateio
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/hitbtc
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/kucoin
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/liqui
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/livecoin
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/poloniex
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/quoine
https://cryptocoincharts.info/markets/show/tidex

Also, Guido mentioned:
http://coinsmarkets.com/support.php

Please get devcoin on any exchange you can. The listed exchanges are just places to look, devcoin on any exchange would get the bounty.

who is the devcoin developer?
if he just fills in form they will add. or better still email them, they got back right away to me when i discussed another coin but I don't know all the specs.
so if dev can identify himself and fill form or email them we can finally have an exchange
cheers

I believe it's Unthinkingbit. You can DM him. It would sure be awesome to get listed on an exchange again Smiley

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If anyone is interested to write.. you can use STEEM and get paid...

Steemit.com has perked my interest, as well, Sidhujag (@novacadian). It seemed the natural extension of the DevTome idea... merged with blockchain technology.

The one thing that is still a bit unnerving about Steemit, to me, is that it does not seem, truly, decentralized. Perhaps DevCoin could take that Open Source code on as a project and remove all trace of .com from the equation so as to provide software that will deliver the blockchain from a configurable Nodes/Witnesses/Miner server for the user. From my understanding at the moment, if steemit.com were to be attacked the Network's delivery would, virtually, go down. The blockchain would be preserved by the Witness Nodes, yet something like a DDOS attack or the lack of Net Neutrality in the US could become weaknesses for such centralized delivery systems using the blockchain ledger.

That sounds like a huge problem to be solved in the Blockchained Open Sourced Community.  

Know where one could be found? Wink

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Devcoin started by funding software developers, then devtome was made. Most of those software developers ignored devcoin, as far as I know only develCuy and Emfox came to devcoin from software funding. Most administrators came from writers, because there were far more interested writers.

Devtome was supposed to make money from advertising, which would of payed for other projects, but the advertising revenues turned out to be insignificant. I expected advertisers to pay for many ads on devtome because there was so much content, but I was wrong.

Proud to have been part of a DevCoin project.  Still HODL my DVC reward. Wink

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=smf_incoming_email_capability

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I haven't been able to log onto my old account or retrieve my password.  This is the artist formerly known as papacrusher.... Grin

Are you the guy that dresses in Purple? Smiley

Hiya Papa!

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I haven't been able to log onto my old account or retrieve my password.  This is the artist formerly known as papacrusher.... Grin

Are you the guy that dresses in Purple? Smiley

Hiya Papa!

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Hey buddy!  I'm liking your ideas related to devtome and steemit.
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I haven't been able to log onto my old account or retrieve my password.  This is the artist formerly known as papacrusher.... Grin

Are you the guy that dresses in Purple? Smiley

Hiya Papa!

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Hey buddy!  I'm liking your ideas related to devtome and steemit.

That is the good news I want to tell everyone but it is delayed till the new version of STEEM blockchain. Stay tunned Wink

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That is the good news I want to tell everyone but it is delayed till the new version of STEEM blockchain. Stay tunned Wink

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January 05, 2018, 03:02:34 AM
 #7119

This is quite terrible for devcoin.

are the AI bots still running for devcoin?

This project has merit and worth but the presentation is all wrong... this project must survive.

Can an exchange be setup on devtome.com?
 can we migrate to a .org?

is there a hashing system to create signatures for users?

there is a lot that has to be changed for devcoin to survive.

Without people having access to devcoin the point of this project is mute. The technology we adopted is supporting an idea, helping to monetize it... and that idea is not being shared.
If people don't know, how are they going to support the writers, artists and programmers?

Who is sharing the best work of these writers and artists?


I believe this project has lost it's way/direction and it needs re-assess what matters most.

If you think my efforts are worth something; I'll keep on keeping on.
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January 05, 2018, 07:38:42 AM
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who is the devcoin developer?

Sidhujag made the latest version of devcoin.

The main problem is some exchanges require the developer to take full financial liability for any alleged code problems. I know this is boilerplate legal code, but it is still a problem. If Sidhujag wants to be the devcoin developer for coding purposes, he's got it. Otherwise, someone who is not worried about liability can be declared as the devcoin developer for coding purposes, and that person can hand off any coding questions if they arise to Sidhujag or other programmers on the thread. Since that person is solving our liability problem, they would get shares as a liability administrator.

Does that exchange say anything about the developer being liable for any alleged code problems?

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if he just fills in form they will add. or better still email them, they got back right away to me when i discussed another coin but I don't know all the specs.
so if dev can identify himself and fill form or email them we can finally have an exchange
cheers

For the rest of the questions, Fuuzybear answered below, and I agree with him:

So the requirements for a listing of devcoin on their site is as follows:

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If you are a developer or official representative of cryptocurrency asset, you can add this asset to Livecoin. We offer a few options to list a new asset, please contact us via email .

Don't forget to provide the following when you request listing:
1) link to an official git of your node
2) link to an official website
3) link to block chain which must working properly
4) name of asset and trading symbol
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answers to the questions would be as follows? please feel free to correct or update:

1) https://github.com/coinzen/devcoin ??
2) http://devcoin.org/
3) https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dvc/
4) Devcoin (DVC)

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