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June 07, 2013, 08:06:04 PM
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why are sock puppets allowed with the current iteration of the trust system?

allows for gaming the system, lets people turn busywork into reputation that looks real on the surface.

imo these system are incompatible. we either need to remove the trust system (which i think is really great), or work harder to prevent sockpuppets and multi accounts. this will also require more moderators to destroy scum that is becoming ever more common.


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June 07, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
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I believe the votes have weight, meaning, a more established member will have a bigger say in a person's rep than a sock puppet.  I could be wrong tho.

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June 07, 2013, 11:53:29 PM
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People who are not in your trust network has zero weighting for the numbers.
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June 08, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
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People who are not in your trust network has zero weighting for the numbers.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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Read about the trust system before calling it out, too many people just say shit with having no idea how it works [like you].
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June 08, 2013, 09:32:06 AM
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tysat is a world class d-bag

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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June 08, 2013, 09:35:30 AM
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tysat is a world class d-bag

Sure thing boss... or I just call out people for being ignorant.
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June 08, 2013, 09:40:31 AM
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tysat is a world class d-bag

Sure thing boss... or I just call out people for being ignorant.

and you also make false scam accusations without proper investigation

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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June 08, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2013, 09:37:04 PM by pheaonix
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People who are not in your trust network has zero weighting for the numbers.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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Read about the trust system before calling it out, too many people just say shit with having no idea how it works [like you].


apologies

this system is very new, and i have yet to even add anyone to my trust network, as i am sure most have not

if my understanding is correct, then most transactions will still show up under "untrusted feedback" which is the current norm

even with widespread adoption it will take months to be able to be able to differentiate false claims with real transactions /on the surface/ which is about as far as most will go

"de5troy3r" or whatever is a perfect example of this problem in the reverse

here is just another example

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229445.0

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June 09, 2013, 12:39:11 AM
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another thing

why are sockpuppets allowed when we have an auction forum?

if it is allowed to do, what stops people from shill bidding?

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June 11, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
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another thing

why are sockpuppets allowed when we have an auction forum?

if it is allowed to do, what stops people from shill bidding?

Shill bidding is dishonest and most people are generally honest, so they don't do things like that?

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June 12, 2013, 05:09:20 PM
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How do you add someone to your "Trust Network"?
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June 12, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
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How do you add someone to your "Trust Network"?

Got to your profile, then click on "Trust" (just below "local time" and "language"), then click on "Trust Settings" (near the top of the page). You should see a text box. Type user names into the box, one user per line, then click the "update" button to add them to your trust network.

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June 12, 2013, 08:31:09 PM
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Remember, trust no one

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June 12, 2013, 08:54:23 PM
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Remember, trust no one
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Every trust system is based on actions in the past. That doesn't mean people couldn't change their mind and start scamming. See them as hints, not as a foolprove replacement for your brain.

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June 14, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
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^^ the trust system is designed as a reference not as the end all be all of reputation. If you get scammed because you automatically believe that someone with a lot of positive feedback from random people is trustworthy that is your bad, not the systems.


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June 14, 2013, 08:51:39 PM
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^^ the trust system is designed as a reference not as the end all be all of reputation. If you get scammed because you automatically believe that someone with a lot of positive feedback from random people is trustworthy that is your bad, not the systems.

That is a good way to word it, might have to quote you in the newbie trust sticky.
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