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November 01, 2017, 10:35:36 AM
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Sure - you can try to hit them with standard fraud charges/lawsuit like any other Internet site that defrauds folks - but proof is a lot more difficult when "the net" in involved.


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If you can find a private investigator or someone who can get information on people, there's a chance you can track them down. Kevin Mitnick who is known to be one of the "most experienced" hackers in history worked as a PI for a time.

There is a question of whether information acquired without going through the legal process can be used in a court of law. Depending on how much was stolen, the best method could be to offer a bounty on a percentage of funds that are recovered. Like say if someone steals $20,000. A bounty could be offered for 10% of whatever is recovered. If $20,000 is recovered the person might be paid $2,000 of that. If nothing is recovered they don't get paid anything.

Lawyers work on that basis sometimes with financial cases where a good amount of money is at stake with no guarantee of it being retrieved. Its a good format to ensure that the only people who take the job are the ones who are confident they will be successful.

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November 02, 2017, 02:56:39 AM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..
Scammers are committing a crime so they are liable to be charged in almost any jurisdiction, the problem is going to be to put an identity behind the crimes, you will need to make a research and try to find clues yourself, while there is probably a cyber crime unit in your country most of the time they concentrate in crimes that can harm people, like drugs, so you may not find a lot of support from them if the only thing you lost was some money.
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November 02, 2017, 05:17:12 AM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..

Yes but it’s hard than any ordinary cases in a real word regarding scamming as the user might used anonymity tools to hide or used other bitcoin users information to be the pawn. But it’s better to asked legal experts that I’ve even know that they’re are making threads on Legal Section that you asked for advices at this matter.

This might not sounds good “prevention is better than cure”, so take necessary step to avoid this kind of unfortunate crimes and to be careful.
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November 02, 2017, 05:18:59 AM
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Scamming is illegal thing that has a law for that people who commit a scam/crime some other people but its hard to distinguish who are beyond of the site who are do scamming specially here in bitcoin all information the users was hide or private. But there are some online transaction was getting caught and they are punished by the law hoping that in the future illegal things like scamming will be gone to make all people are being happy transacting online.
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November 02, 2017, 05:30:39 AM
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There's a way but it's not going to be an easy journey finding out the real identity of those scammers. Are you referring to those HYIP's, doublers? You can use whois them and find the real identity of the people behind their domain. And once you find it out, you can suit them with any illegal charges and if you are lucky that they are living in a country that supports or does have law against cyber scams they'll be in jail.

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I would say that this stuff would really be nearly impossible since scammers are using bitcoin we cant directly point out whose the one behind on that wallet address.If you are really serious on tracing them then hire your own investigator just like been said above and do the job on tracing but i would bet that he would really have a hard time on tracing out.This is why bitcoin is the best way to scam people because of its anonymity feature.

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It is somewhat possible to track the information of scam website owners by checking whois reports or taking legal actions agains them so that legal parties can contact their domain registrars.
However, cheators do not put their real info, neither they user real ip at registrations.
May be there is still a way for experts to read their background info using smart techniques.

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November 02, 2017, 07:21:30 AM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..

You can sue them up if you find on who are the person behind on those scam programs, but I don't see anyone has been sued yet since its near to impossible to track them up since bitcoins are anonymous and people can hide their identity easily on online scene.

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November 02, 2017, 12:09:53 PM
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If you want to file charges to those who you suspects cheating in the bitcoin industry then you should backed it up with evidence. I think they can be categorize under the cyber crime since the activities were done in the internet or online. But it would be difficult to track them since they would think ahead of it and already planned some countermeasures before they do such things.


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November 02, 2017, 01:09:59 PM
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May be there is still a way for experts to read their background info using smart techniques.

Even if so, it will still be a near-impossible task to actually make the scammer pay for its malicious deeds. If you report anything having to do with being scammed on internet (doesn't even need to be crypto related), it's most of the times a waste of time since police departments don't tend to take anything seriously, the government itself is severely lagging behind in terms of IT, etc. It's not for nothing that internet scammers till this day still have more or less enough free space to operate in. It has even gone so far, that people don't even tend to report anything anymore when it comes to relatively smaller amounts, because it results most of the times in absolutely nothing. It's sad if you think about it, but that's the reality unfortunately.

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November 02, 2017, 02:47:27 PM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..
Yes, you can report scam sites to FBI and maybe they can do something about it but it is long shot.
Or if you have information about who they are you can put legal charges against them, and frankly that is impossible in most cases because you probably won't find any information about them.


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In some countries it's illegal to invest in HYIP and Ponzi schemes, everyone can be arrested: investors, owners, promoters... If you have enough proof about someone you can tell the authorities. Anyway it's a hard task as scammers use fake names, addresses and even countries. In other situations the criminals find gaps on the laws that help them to avoid the punishment, like saying these scam schemes are mutual donation programs.

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Its a cyber crime.I think that its very hard to take actions against such internet scammers since its very hard to find their identity.Even bitcoin which is pseudo anonymous has made it more difficult to find scammers.

We even recently saw Wannacry ramsomware issue,but still now the culprit has not been identified or punished.

Bitcoin not legalized or regulated in many countries would make it much more difficult to solve this issue.

Bitcoin being a decentralized currency has no central authority to take actions against bitcoin cheaters.

Bitcoin users should be more careful about their wallets,new websites and new offers.

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Even there is a law against bitcoin cheaters or scammers, we can't take a legal action on it because it is hard to identify who is that person  since the information you can get is not real because scammer always use different identity. And it is also difficult to get an evidence to prove the allegations. We just be very careful so that we will not become a victim of those scammers.
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These scammers are most probably hiding behind proxies and using stolen Wi-Fi and registered domains with fake

documents. It is not easy to find them and even if you do, they might be operating on the other side of the world. I exposed

a scam in the Ukraine once and communicating with law enforcement on that side, were very difficult. {Language barrier}

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November 02, 2017, 03:59:49 PM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..

Yes you can file lawsuit against scammer. The problem is having a strong evidence to file against them because if not your filed case will be nothing. Scammers are hiding their identity using VPN and some app to become anonymous. Remember that we are in online and  bitcoin is for anonymity transaction. It is hard to determined who are the real scammers.

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November 02, 2017, 05:39:16 PM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..

Yes you can file lawsuit against scammer. The problem is having a strong evidence to file against them because if not your filed case will be nothing. Scammers are hiding their identity using VPN and some app to become anonymous. Remember that we are in online and  bitcoin is for anonymity transaction. It is hard to determined who are the real scammers.
This is how its just like to have some pointless actions if you did try to make such step because they wont really easily believe you if you don't have proper or enough evidence into a certain scammer which isn't know yet. You cant just give them a bitcoin address since it wont really be a valid thing.This is why bitcoin is a good vessel to scam people because of its untraceable behavior if you can able to trace out then your lucky but most of the time I do strongly believe and I'm 100% sure that you will surely fail. This is why once your coins are gone then don't hope that you would able to recover it back.


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November 02, 2017, 06:15:14 PM
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Is there any legal background against bit coin cheaters,who using scam sites for cheats people..

Yes you can file lawsuit against scammer. The problem is having a strong evidence to file against them because if not your filed case will be nothing. Scammers are hiding their identity using VPN and some app to become anonymous. Remember that we are in online and  bitcoin is for anonymity transaction. It is hard to determined who are the real scammers.

But where you can complain about the scammers who is cheating since bitcoin and all altcoins being a decentralized currencies to use we cannot do anything with the scammers and hackers who are attacking the wallet.
Since static IP address can tracked the network line with the DORA process. That is not a big matter to find the people who using it and find the real static IP. If you check the people who using vpn plugs that will some companies IP usually.

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