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November 01, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
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Hello this is Bill from pangolinminer team.

Today i accidentally find out there were some negative comment about Pangolinminer and Whatsminer.
(We didn't show up earlier because we are too busy at selling those new miner)

In this case, i would like to clarify things and tell more about whatsminer. 

You guys can ask anything about the whatsminer, i will try to answer about it.

Also we are planning to make a streaming for showing the miner, and if its necessary we will send miner to Members of this forum for evaluating the miner and make review. (May not be free, and we want some people who can give us credit in this forum)

However, some topics will not be talk about

1. Any events related with BITMAIN

2. Detail about product development (new tapeout etc..)

3. Specified Person inside the company.


Before i start, i would like to clarify few points.

1. Whatsminer is not Antminer. But the engineer is come from BITMAIN.

2. Pangolinminer is Shareholder of Whatsminer Company. Who in charge of overseas sales.
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November 01, 2017, 04:58:29 PM
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It's a bit late in china now, i will come back tomorrow.

If you guys have any question, please let me know. I will check it and try to answer you tomorrow

BTW, for those new to this topic. You can go to www.pangolinminer.com for finding out more about Whatsminer.

Briefly, the specs will be like below

Hashpower : 11.5~12.0th/s

Power Consumption : 1800~2100W

Price is around 1k USD.



And it look very similar to Antminer. You can see below the video from us.

https://youtu.be/M4of-rFbptA
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November 01, 2017, 06:08:07 PM
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I'd be happy to buy one and do a thorough review.

I sent you e-mail to sales@pangolinminer.com    Smiley

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Would love to take you up on that offer. But I'll need a 110v power supply.
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November 03, 2017, 02:05:46 PM
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@ Pangolinminer: One person here I highly recommend as a reviewer is philipma1957. He has done several high-quality reviews, has exceeding good Trust and would be an excellent person to contact.

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Yeah, it would be great if Phil is also interested in making a review.

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Yes, many of us would trust a review from philipma1957 and/or HaggsFin.
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November 04, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
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We sealed the deal today with Pangolinminer and one Whatsminer 11.5 Th/s miner with power supply is on the way.

Should take about a week for it to arrive here in Finland.

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We sealed the deal today with Pangolinminer and one Whatsminer 11.5 Th/s miner with power supply is on the way.

Should take about a week for it to arrive here in Finland.

Can wait for your review. Please keep us posted on the progress.
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November 06, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
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We sealed the deal today with Pangolinminer and one Whatsminer 11.5 Th/s miner with power supply is on the way.

Should take about a week for it to arrive here in Finland.
Keep us updated, love to hear about new miners and more obscure miners too. Price looks very good, would consider buying one if things look smooth. Glad to hear you guys at Pangolin actually gave out a review sample instead of just posting a buy link like most vaporware companies.














 

 

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November 06, 2017, 02:59:53 AM
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Hello Guys,

We will also invite philipma1957 for evaluating our products.

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November 06, 2017, 03:17:16 AM
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Hello Guys,

We will also invite philipma1957 for evaluating our products.



Thank you I just got a pm.

I will send you  my address in  moment or two.  I would like to read the thread.

Read the thread.  Lots of good names here.

I will review it.

I did a few videos on youtube for other gear.

I would be happy to add yours.

On this site and on youtube.

This is the youtube it shows how to build a soundproof setup to mine with an avalon
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-K1Sokgy3-4CdV_uZF8ubw?view_as=subscriber


I will put this miner in the same sound proof tunnel and discuss pros and cons of it.

Plus post a thread here.

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November 06, 2017, 04:07:12 PM
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This is great! Thank you Phil for joining, two reviews are better than one.

I just got today the tracking number for DHL, so it should be about a week and I have the miner.

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November 06, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
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@ Pangolinminer,

Some of us are interested in your GPU miner too:

http://pangolinminer.com/index_eth.html

What motherboard does it use?
Could you send one for review by philipma1957 or HaggsFin or other trusted members?
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November 06, 2017, 04:58:03 PM
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@ Pangolinminer,

Some of us are interested in your GPU miner too:

http://pangolinminer.com/index_eth.html

What motherboard does it use?
Could you send one for review by philipma1957 or HaggsFin or other trusted members?

I did do a review on the original panda miner  about jan of 2018.

I am now reviewing some empty motherboards .

I would not mind reviewing your complete solution for gpu mining.

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November 06, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
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Sounds like double fun  Cheesy

Would be great.

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November 06, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
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Hopefully he replies to my pm.

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November 06, 2017, 11:55:58 PM
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Hopefully he replies to my pm.
Got a hunch they will. Since you also mine alts, query: Ballpark opinion on what their scrypt miner specs sound like vs DIY?
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I sent their sales team an email and have been waiting to hear back. I can attest to the quality of the M1 miner which seems to be the same miner as the M3. The efficiency is worse than an S9 but I suspect with availability and this lower price that you’d still do just fine with an M3.
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I sent their sales team an email and have been waiting to hear back. I can attest to the quality of the M1 miner which seems to be the same miner as the M3. The efficiency is worse than an S9 but I suspect with availability and this lower price that you’d still do just fine with an M3.
Considering the fact that the Pangolin miners are based off of the older 28nm process I'm actually quite surprised there's still room for improvement in ASICs. Of course efficiency's going to be lower than the S9 on an older node but if these guys deliver by chance it's going to be pretty nice. Hope 14nm is great from these guys too if their 28nm miner is actually legit.














 

 

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My review unit has already arrived in Helsinki, it should not be too long before I have my hands on it.  Smiley

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Hopefully he replies to my pm.

Hello,

Sorry for the delay, can you send us an email to sales@pangolinminer.com ?

We will process your sample unit ASAP
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Hopefully he replies to my pm.

Hello,

Sorry for the delay, can you send us an email to sales@pangolinminer.com ?

We will process your sample unit ASAP

Sure I will do that right now.


and  the email has been sent to you.

Thanks again.

Okay I got  a reply email today.




Re: Demo model
Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:42 AM
From:
"pangolinmier" <sales@pangolinminer.com>
To:
"PHILIP A......" <philipa......@y.hoo.com>
Hello Phil,

Thanks for contacting us, please let us know if you like to pay for the sample?

We will make it as 1...$+..$(PSU) + ..$ (DHL) for total.

Best Regard,

Laurent


2017-11-09 13:41 GMT+08:00 PHILIP A....... <philipa.......@yahoo.com>:
Hi  I am philipma1957 of bitcointalk.org

I am replying to your thread   on bitcointalk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345436.msg24269259# msg24269259


I would like to get the demo model for testing and reviewing.

My Address is

Philip A.......
1. ..... ....... ..
Howell,NJ 07731

USA

Phone :

(732)@@@-@@@@@@@

If you would ship it to me I would start the review  quickly.


Best regards,

Philip A.......



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Whatsapp:+86 1..........


So I am going to request a BTC address to pay them.

So I replied to the email and I am awaiting  a response.

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November 09, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
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I was billed and paid the bill


https://blockchain.info/tx/dff953819a44bf4a38fbd9f01506714a042733e7ac04cf4784943e4fd5797eb4


to all please wait till I get this and look at it. I will review it.

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I was billed and paid the bill


https://blockchain.info/tx/dff953819a44bf4a38fbd9f01506714a042733e7ac04cf4784943e4fd5797eb4


to all please wait till I get this and look at it. I will review it.

Since your from the US did they send you a 110V power supply or 220V?
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I was billed and paid the bill


https://blockchain.info/tx/dff953819a44bf4a38fbd9f01506714a042733e7ac04cf4784943e4fd5797eb4


to all please wait till I get this and look at it. I will review it.

Since your from the US did they send you a 110V power supply or 220V?

I have 220volts  I think it is their stock psu

this is my youtube channel I have a soundproof tunnel waiting for this miner along with a few other mining videos.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-K1Sokgy3-4CdV_uZF8ubw?view_as=subscriber

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Hello,

The PSU is 220v, we dont have 110v at this moment.

We may customize some when we have more order from US market,.
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Hello,

The PSU is 220v, we dont have 110v at this moment.
We may customize some when we have more order from US market,.
With the miners drawing between 1,800w and 2,000w do not even try designing the PSU to run on 110V.  Some uninformed customers may ask about it but they do not realize what trying to supply that much power using 110v line means.

In North America standard 110v receptacles are only rated 15A (1,650w). Running higher loads on 110v would require installation of a 25A 110v line and receptacle. If a new receptacle and line are needed, is just easier (and better) to have 220v service installed.

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November 10, 2017, 03:22:47 PM
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If somebody really needs 110V mains voltage power supplies, three pieces Dell 750W server psu with breakout board and cables should do the trick when there is one psu per one hash board.
And you would need two or more different circuit groups to do that.

But really, 220V is the way to go.

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Hello,

The PSU is 220v, we dont have 110v at this moment.
We may customize some when we have more order from US market,.
With the miners drawing between 1,800w and 2,000w do not even try designing the PSU to run on 110V.  Some uninformed customers may ask about it but they do not realize what trying to supply that much power using 110v line means.

In North America standard 110v receptacles are only rated 15A (1,650w). Running higher loads on 110v would require installation of a 25A 110v line and receptacle. If a new receptacle and line are needed, is just easier (and better) to have 220v service installed.

It would need to be a 3 psu   or 2 psu setup on standard usa 110 volt sockets  and that brings you other issues.

Ie the psu's need 2 circuits to work at 110 volts.

When I get mine I will demo running it on 110/120 volts as I have places with multiple 120 volt circuits.

To all USA miners  getting a 30 amp 240 volt circuit and using a pdu is well worth it.

My video channel shows a 30 amp pdu  running at 240 volts.  I am using 13 -14 of those amps.

Note 30 amp pdu's fuse to 24 amps  to make sure you do not use too much power 24 x 240 = 5760 watts

my 220/240 volt setup runs at 239 to 243 volts

some places in the usa you could be as low as 217 volts  which is  24 x 217 = 5208 watts 

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What do you think in making a little miner?, like 400W or lower power

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What do you think in making a little miner?, like 400W or lower power
Um, already exist from several years ago -- called the Ant S3 series... They too used 28nm chips and while a respin of them to use string topo vs many Vcore bucks may give better specs I doubt would be worth it when so many of the now very cheap old Ants are to be found on eBay et al.

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I received the miner and power supply today evening, about half hour ago.  Smiley

Very fast delivery via DHL. In Tuesday it was in Hong Kong and in Friday it is in Finland.

I already inspected the miner and power supply visually, took a ton of pictures, made the connections ready.

Tomorrow I have good time to put it into operation, measure power and all kinds of stuff that will be part of the review.

Here is a teaser photo.



Stay tuned.  Wink

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waiting for the review Smiley
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I would love two things the review from Haggs

 and DHL tracking number for my unit Grin

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So Phil did you get a tracking number?
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So far no tracking.  So while Haggs got a unit. I do suggest  don't buy yet.  No tracking  for me  makes me nervous.

I went off my policy  for new companies   and it could be a screw up on my part.

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So far no tracking.  So while Haggs got a unit. I do suggest  don't buy yet.  No tracking  for me  makes me nervous.

I went off my policy  for new companies   and it could be a screw up on my part.
You got to give it more time Phil.

They first ship it from mainland China to Hong Kong.

Then from Hong Kong to the US, DHL is going to take care of the delivery.

As soon as DHL has it, you will get the tracking details for the shipment.

This is how it went in my case.

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What do you think in making a little miner?, like 400W or lower power
Um, already exist from several years ago -- called the Ant S3 series... They too used 28nm chips and while a respin of them to use string topo vs many Vcore bucks may give better specs I doubt would be worth it when so many of the now very cheap old Ants are to be found on eBay et al.
No in Europe the S3 goes from 200 to 300 euros, is really too high.

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So far no tracking.  So while Haggs got a unit. I do suggest  don't buy yet.  No tracking  for me  makes me nervous.

I went off my policy  for new companies   and it could be a screw up on my part.
You got to give it more time Phil.

They first ship it from mainland China to Hong Kong.

Then from Hong Kong to the US, DHL is going to take care of the delivery.

As soon as DHL has it, you will get the tracking details for the shipment.

This is how it went in my case.
I am on a secondary account on my cell phone I just got tracking from dhl it is due on the 14th
Did you get your gear running

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Hello Phil,

sorry for the delay on update, i have already sent you the DHL number by email.

Below is the event log, it will take around 1~2 days from Shenzhen to HONGKONG DHL.

For faster procedure, we may use DHL or Fedex in mainland for avoiding this transit, but price might get double.


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Latest Event -- 2017-11-11 20:27 HONG KONG - HONG KONG, Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG
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2017-11-11 20:27 HONG KONG - HONG KONG, Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG
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Looking forward to testing it.

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Looking forward to testing it.

Off topic but bcc/bch is now over 1000 usd.

This miner will mine that .  I have 3.3 bcc and 1.1 btc

So  either one is okay for me to mine

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back home and on primary account miner is on the way.

I wonder how hot and loud this miner will be?

if you mine bcc/bch  instead of btc this miner will roi pretty fast

as bcc/bch is better then btc at this moment.

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as bcc/bch is better then btc at this moment.
Hopefully that is as a last gasp now that the fork got dropped on the floor. Guess we need to wait until after Nov 23 to see if it gets picked up and used again... or becomes relegated to just another sha256 altcoin.

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as bcc/bch is better then btc at this moment.
Hopefully that is as a last gasp now that the fork got dropped on the floor. Guess we need to wait until after Nov 23 to see if it gets picked up and used again... or becomes relegated to just another sha256 altcoin.

well  we will have to see.

I have 18th  doing bcc/bch

coin has moved over 1300 usd  this is a 11th miner it would earn

11 x 0.00185 = 0.02035 bcc/bch a day   or 26.50 usd a day  in 70 days = 1855 usd  But  power  is high  say 1700 watts at the wall 41 k-watts per day

at 15 cents = 6.15 a day  x 70 =  430 usd in power   so 1855-430 = 1415  to the plus in 70 days.  gear cost was 1202   that is an roi under 70 days.

I am glad  I am all inclusive with every coin   until a coin fucks me via developer action.

PPC
ETH
ETC  are all on my hit list  as developers did moves that  were wrong and cost me money.

None of them offered to fix the issues so they are on the boycott list.

Since there are more then 1200 coins and I do not try to mine all of them  I feel pretty good in my method of not damming a coin until the developer does wrong. 

( by wrong a change in the rules that cost me money that was not done with fair warning)

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November 11, 2017, 08:57:19 PM
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Hello,

I am still waiting on confirmation on the forums it's working and in order before I buy myself, but I was wondering two things:

What payment methods do you accept?

Can you ship insantly?

Thanks in advance for your response,
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November 12, 2017, 01:18:14 AM
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I'm finally ready with the review thread and it is online.  Smiley

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390138

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I've been getting questions about if this miner can be monitored via Awesome Miner. Does this miner provide a Cgminer API that is similar to Antminers and other ASIC miners?

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I've been getting questions about if this miner can be monitored via Awesome Miner. Does this miner provide a Cgminer API that is similar to Antminers and other ASIC miners?


Yes, see my review for more info (link above).

I sent you my Cgminer API log via pm, if that is any help.  Smiley

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I've been getting questions about if this miner can be monitored via Awesome Miner. Does this miner provide a Cgminer API that is similar to Antminers and other ASIC miners?


Yes, see my review for more info (link above).

I sent you my Cgminer API log via pm, if that is any help.  Smiley
Perfect - many thanks!

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November 20, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
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Hello.

The pangolinminer website seems to not be working but I found this website selling Whatsminers.  Is this legitimate?

http://whatsminer.net/index.php/product/m3-11-5ths-whatsminer-220v-psu-pre-order-ships-jan-4-jan-25-2018/

Also the Florida address listed online is for a UPS PO Box-- very suspicious. 
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Hello.

The pangolinminer website seems to not be working but I found this website selling Whatsminers.  Is this legitimate?

http://whatsminer.net/index.php/product/m3-11-5ths-whatsminer-220v-psu-pre-order-ships-jan-4-jan-25-2018/

Also the Florida address listed online is for a UPS PO Box-- very suspicious. 

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@ Pangolinminer: One person here I highly recommend as a reviewer is philipma1957. He has done several high-quality reviews, has exceeding good Trust and would be an excellent person to contact.
Somewhy I'm sure that Phil can talk by himself.  Cool

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I'm in Myanmar.   Where should I buy the miner from.   Seems like Pangolinminer is set up for Western trades
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I'm in Myanmar.   Where should I buy the miner from.   Seems like Pangolinminer is set up for Western trades
Ask them for more information.

I don't see why they would not sell miners for guys in Myanmar.

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I'm in Myanmar.   Where should I buy the miner from.   Seems like Pangolinminer is set up for Western trades

Hey, we have updated the shipment options for your location.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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November 23, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
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Think I can get it cheaper, quicker from Alibaba
Still not certain about this as my first foray into mining.   Seems like there are an awful lot of these miners on order or being delivered atm.
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Be safe to make purchases from this supplier?
Do you ship to Brazil?
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I'm in Myanmar.   Where should I buy the miner from.   Seems like Pangolinminer is set up for Western trades

Hey, we have updated the shipment options for your location.

Sorry for the inconvenience.



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