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November 02, 2017, 10:23:49 AM
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Account farming and now lying, because you did use them for abusing a giveaway. Do not PM me again.
Sent you a negative feedback for giving everyone in this board negative trust because he sell account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=234.0

There's no reason to give me negative trust because, I own a lot of accounts in the past.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254871.0 giveaway have no rule that forbid posting in their thread with multi accounts.
Its not like other giveaways

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November 02, 2017, 10:26:37 AM
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Sent you a negative feedback for giving everyone in this board negative trust because he sell account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=234.0
Accuses me of trust abuse, and yet you do this. That sweet irony. Cheesy

There's no reason to give me negative trust because, I own a lot of accounts in the past.
Yup, like Waves doesn't have a ton of farmed accounts in there. A lot of those are likely owned by you. Roll Eyes

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November 02, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
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Sent you a negative feedback for giving everyone in this board negative trust because he sell account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=234.0
Accuses me of trust abuse, and yet you do this. That sweet irony. Cheesy

There's no reason to give me negative trust because, I own a lot of accounts in the past.
Yup, like Waves doesn't have a ton of farmed accounts in there. A lot of those are likely owned by you. Roll Eyes
I managed waves for months, They sent me bitcoin on my own wallet, same as coinsbank they sent me hundreds of thousands dollars on my bitcoin address during their campaigns,
Never stole their BTC nor I farmed.

Its a slander to say that I famed in waves without a proof watch-out !
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November 02, 2017, 10:33:17 AM
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I managed waves for months, They sent me bitcoin on my own wallet, same as coinsbank they sent me hundreds of thousands dollars on my bitcoin address during their campaigns,
You aren't competent enough to manage a campaign with 10 accounts, let alone one the size of the Waves campaign. Thus, those also indicators of some shady, behind the scene, deals especially given that the campaign literally had every kind of shitposter in it.

Never stole their BTC nor I farmed.
Cheesy

Its a slander to say that I famed in waves without a proof watch-out !
Open a dictionary, go to the letter 'L' and find the definition of the word 'likely'. Nice threat, by the way.

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November 02, 2017, 10:36:51 AM
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I managed waves for months, They sent me bitcoin on my own wallet, same as coinsbank they sent me hundreds of thousands dollars on my bitcoin address during their campaigns,
You aren't competent enough to manage a campaign with 10 accounts, let alone one the size of the Waves campaign. Thus, those also indicators of some shady, behind the scene, deals especially given that the campaign literally had every kind of shitposter in it.

Never stole their BTC nor I farmed.
Cheesy

Its a slander to say that I famed in waves without a proof watch-out !
Open a dictionary, go to the letter 'L' and find the definition of the word 'likely'. Nice threat, by the way.
You're bumping this thread with your imaginations and defaming me without proofs
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November 02, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
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You're bumping this thread with your imaginations and defaming me without proofs
No. I'm waiting for your remaining army of alts to start attacking me soon. I 'member you privately asking for a spot in my campaign. Roll Eyes

Thanks hilariousetc for the reveal, and OP for self-admitting your mischief.

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November 02, 2017, 10:44:57 AM
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You're bumping this thread with your imaginations and defaming me without proofs
No. I'm waiting for your remaining army of alts to start attacking me soon. I 'member you privately asking for a spot in my campaign. Roll Eyes

Thanks hilariousetc for the reveal, and OP for self-admitting your mischief.
Another slander without proof.
I let everyone talking freely, but don't bullish this thread with lies.

About this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1938190
You set a definition for your self as a trustworthy user that can perform escrow, ridiculous!
My respect to blazed and other members in the thread.
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November 02, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
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Administrator can check their IP and compare it with mine, I bet I'm the only one who have bitcointalk.org account in my country.
I could deny that those accounts are mine, because he have no proof I'm their owner, but I didn't because the admin can easily check from which IP their created
with. I'm challenging him to give me any proof that I control those accounts.

I somehow doubt you're the only user on here from whatever country you're in, but I'm sure you used proxies so IPs are irrelevant. And yes, you could have denied them being yours so I'll give you that, but there is proof that they belong to you:

Now, what connects them to Bitcoin_BOy$. If you check their first posts they all have a very distinct posting style and were posting one after the other including Bitcoin_BOy$:

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Again, can you answer why you created this thread? Why are you concerned about the issue if it apparently doesn't directly effect you? You may or may not have been directly involved with selling them, but your concern in the op has me suspicious.

Maybe members should be limited to one personal account and one business account.
The discussion board is unusable at the moment because of new accounts posting low value replies in all the tired old threads.

I wouldn't be against limiting accounts to one per IP even though it can easily be bypassed, but it would stop half of these idiots kids who have 100 accounts on one IP and couldn't even work out how to use a proxy. Personally, I think a better solution would be for signatures to be removed from ranks completely and to have one you have to donate to the forum. This would instantly stop all this nonsense with shitposting account farming and account sales almost 100%. The forum can't continue as it is because it's now just a place for south east Asians just to shitpost or copy and paste using their half a dozen accounts each.

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I somehow doubt you're the only user on here from whatever country you're in, but I'm sure you used proxies so IPs are irrelevant. And yes, you could have denied them being yours so I'll give you that, but there is proof that they belong to you:
All of those accounts had same IP as mine, where is your proof that I used proxies ?
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November 02, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
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About this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1938190
You set a definition for your self as a trustworthy user that can perform escrow, ridiculous!
My respect to blazed and other members in the thread.


I wouldn't be against limiting accounts to one per IP even though it can easily be bypassed, but it would stop half of these idiots kids who have 100 accounts on one IP and couldn't even work out how to use a proxy.
This forum needs to stop with the "If we can't stop all possible cases of something, let's not try stopping it at all" mentality, thus naturally I agree with you.

Personally, I think a better solution would be for signatures to be removed from ranks completely and to have one you have to donate to the forum. This would instantly stop all this nonsense with shitposting account farming and account sales almost 100%.
This remains a distant dream while theymos sits on several millions.

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November 02, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
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I somehow doubt you're the only user on here from whatever country you're in, but I'm sure you used proxies so IPs are irrelevant. And yes, you could have denied them being yours so I'll give you that, but there is proof that they belong to you:
All of those accounts have same IP as mine, where is your proof that I used proxies ?

I don't have any and only admins have access to that info, but it's irrelevant. If you sold the accounts then of course they will be using different IPs. Again, why are you avoiding the question of why you created this thread? You're obviously hiding something. Why are you concerned about the rules and etiquette of feedback on sold/bought accounts.

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I somehow doubt you're the only user on here from whatever country you're in, but I'm sure you used proxies so IPs are irrelevant. And yes, you could have denied them being yours so I'll give you that, but there is proof that they belong to you:
All of those accounts have same IP as mine, where is your proof that I used proxies ?

I don't have any and only admins have access to that info, but it's irrelevant. If you sold the accounts then of course they will be using different IPs. Again, why are you avoiding the question of why you created this thread? You're obviously hiding something. Why are you concerned about the rules and etiquette of feedback on sold/bought accounts.
I described in the thread, That the goal is to know simply: account selling is allowed or not allowed.
I saw Lauda giving users in invites and accounts board negative trust like rain, So I opened this thread. And I mentioned to that we should treat any trust system abusing,
in the first post I wrote. So I think you know now why I created this thread, Just because of the negative trust being sending by Lauda without solid reason.
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November 02, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
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That sounds like bullshit to me. I suspect it's very likely you're only concerned because someone has given an account you are involved with negative for such practice. Anyway, this thread has served it's purpose and you have got your answer: Yes, technically account sales are not disallowed as per forum rules, but also yes, the community usually looks down upon such business and many users will leave negative feedback if caught (which is not against the rules either nor will they be removed by admins). You have been caught and admitted farming accounts with bots which have then gone on to be used to scam or facilitate scams whether or not you are in fact directly involved with said scams or the sale of the accounts.

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November 02, 2017, 11:20:43 AM
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That sounds like bullshit to me. I suspect it's very likely you're only concerned because someone has given an account you are involved with negative for such practice. Anyway, this thread has served it's purpose and you have got your answer: Yes, technically account sales are not disallowed as per forum rules, but also yes, the community usually looks down upon such business and many users will leave negative feedback if caught (which is not against the rules either nor will they be removed by admins). You have been caught and admitted farming accounts with bots which have then gone on to be used to scam or facilitate scams whether or not you are in fact directly involved with said scams or the sale of the accounts.
Laud Negative trust still don't have a SOLID reason, I'm not involved in accounts trading, and 777coin giveaway not prohibiting people to post in their thread.
I owned multiple accounts and that's legal. I asked for a clarification about account selling and that's legal too.
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November 02, 2017, 11:27:36 AM
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That sounds like bullshit to me. I suspect it's very likely you're only concerned because someone has given an account you are involved with negative for such practice. Anyway, this thread has served it's purpose and you have got your answer: Yes, technically account sales are not disallowed as per forum rules, but also yes, the community usually looks down upon such business and many users will leave negative feedback if caught (which is not against the rules either nor will they be removed by admins). You have been caught and admitted farming accounts with bots which have then gone on to be used to scam or facilitate scams whether or not you are in fact directly involved with said scams or the sale of the accounts.
Laud Negative trust still don't have a SOLID reason, I'm not involved in accounts trading, and 777coin giveaway not prohibiting people to post in their thread.
I owned multiple accounts and that's legal. I asked for a clarification about account selling and that's legal too.

I really don't buy or believe your concern is limited to lauda just leaving bought/sold accounts negative feedback that have nothing to do with you and you just wanted a quick rule check. I think you are involved in some way hence the concern. Anyway, as I've said above, account sales aren't against the rules but neither is scamming, but many users see it as nefarious activity and they are free to leave feedback as they wish.

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November 02, 2017, 11:32:15 AM
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Laud Negative trust still don't have a SOLID reason, I'm not involved in accounts trading, and 777coin giveaway not prohibiting people to post in their thread.
I owned multiple accounts and that's legal. I asked for a clarification about account selling and that's legal too.

It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, both account farming and abusing giveaways are frowned upon by the community. The trust system is also not moderated, therefore anyone can leave trust for whatever they consider justified. It's quite obvious that you made those accounts to solely abuse the giveaway thread, and was caught.

Now, what did you think was going to happen with this thread? You are a known account farmer, we know that you've abused giveaways. Therefore, I believe you've likely tried to abuse signature campaigns as well. You are also asking a question about selling accounts, when we know that you've farmed accounts in the past, if they have been stolen then why would you be asking this question?

I find it hard to believe that you would be concerned about newbies getting negative trust for selling accounts if you had nothing to do with it.

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November 02, 2017, 11:33:51 AM
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That sounds like bullshit to me. I suspect it's very likely you're only concerned because someone has given an account you are involved with negative for such practice. Anyway, this thread has served it's purpose and you have got your answer: Yes, technically account sales are not disallowed as per forum rules, but also yes, the community usually looks down upon such business and many users will leave negative feedback if caught (which is not against the rules either nor will they be removed by admins). You have been caught and admitted farming accounts with bots which have then gone on to be used to scam or facilitate scams whether or not you are in fact directly involved with said scams or the sale of the accounts.
Laud Negative trust still don't have a SOLID reason, I'm not involved in accounts trading, and 777coin giveaway not prohibiting people to post in their thread.
I owned multiple accounts and that's legal. I asked for a clarification about account selling and that's legal too.

I really don't buy or believe your concern is limited to lauda just leaving bought/sold accounts negative feedback that have nothing to do with you. Anyway, as I've said above, account sales aren't against the rules but neither is scamming, but many users see it as nefarious activity and they are free to leave feedback as they wish.
Look the forum is not you and Lauda, just because he see that its illegal, he gave me negative trust, contrary to forum rules, which don't disallow it.
At the time I created this thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.msg23914040#new
I sent Theymos a vulnerability that may keep bots away. At least I'm helping in this forum.
I'm not asking anyone to believe that I don't have any account now except this one, and I'm not an account seller. anyone who have a proof he shall gave it, or its better for him
to talk about something that may help this forum.

Trust system abusing, can lead this community to corrupt.
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November 02, 2017, 11:46:39 AM
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Look the forum is not you and Lauda, just because he see that its illegal, he gave me negative trust, contrary to forum rules, which don't disallow it.
The forum rules have almost nothing to do with the trust system, otherwise we wouldn't be tagging scammers either. If you had spent more time learning about the forum, rather than farming and shitposting from those accounts you would have known this.

At the time I created this thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.msg23914040#new
I sent Theymos a vulnerability that may keep bots away. At least I'm helping in this forum.
That doesn't erase your previous (or current) actions.

Trust system abusing, can lead this community to corrupt.
Who are you to decide what is and what isn't abuse?

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Look the forum is not you and Lauda, just because he see that its illegal, he gave me negative trust, contrary to forum rules, which don't disallow it.
At the time I created this thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.msg23914040#new
I sent Theymos a vulnerability that may keep bots away. At least I'm helping in this forum.
I'm not asking anyone to believe that I don't have any account now except this one, and I'm not an account seller. anyone who have a proof he shall gave it, or its better for him
to talk about something that may help this forum.

It wasn't contrary to the rules, there are no rules that prohibit users from leaving feedback against account sellers or farmers. I personally don't think the forum should allow accounts to be sold here anymore because it just facilitates scams and other such nefarious activity. If we disallowed account sales and removed signatures from ranks this whole shitshow would be stopped almost completely. And what does PMing theymos have to do with anything? Also, it's right after you've just been exposed for farming. What have you told him? Way's he can stop account farming via the way you did?

Trust system abusing, can lead this community to corrupt.

Yeah, and so can farming/selling accounts, which is what has happened to the ones you at least farmed, hence why you've got the feedback.

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November 02, 2017, 11:53:11 AM
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Look the forum is not you and Lauda, just because he see that its illegal, he gave me negative trust, contrary to forum rules, which don't disallow it.
At the time I created this thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.msg23914040#new
I sent Theymos a vulnerability that may keep bots away. At least I'm helping in this forum.
I'm not asking anyone to believe that I don't have any account now except this one, and I'm not an account seller. anyone who have a proof he shall gave it, or its better for him
to talk about something that may help this forum.

It wasn't contrary to the rules, there are no rules that prohibit users from leaving feedback against account sellers or farmers. I personally don't think the forum should allow accounts to be sold here anymore because it just facilitates scams and other such nefarious activity. If we disallowed account sales and removed signatures from ranks this whole shitshow would be stopped almost completely. And what does PMing theymos have to do with anything? Also, it's right after you've just been exposed for farming. What have you told him? Way's he can stop account farming via the way you did?

Trust system abusing, can lead this community to corrupt.

Yeah, and so can farming/selling accounts, which is what has happened to the ones you at least farmed, hence why you've got the feedback.
I created this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.msg23914040#new) before anyone mentioned I have multiple accounts in the past (which is my right as I think!). I'm with that account farming then doing spamming signatures with them or selling them to scammers is bad. Still no clear reason why I get the feedback, just because someone think that having multiple accounts is bad!

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