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December 06, 2018, 10:04:52 PM |
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Back in february, when there was still no proof of working units and still no dividends paid, it was pretty clear for me, that this project will fail or even was designed to fail. There was a lot of fuzz around envion and because of their failure we was able to convince several people to invest into their own mining farm instead, which we setup and manage for them with our inhouse software solution.
Compared to envion, their investment did generate money from day 1 after completion - they are considered "wise men" now (in comparison to envion investors) - needless to say, that their farms haven't paid off yet, but they do generate a decent amount of monthly income.
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Josey
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December 07, 2018, 11:11:04 AM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders).
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sluppy
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December 07, 2018, 04:44:26 PM |
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Back in february, when there was still no proof of working units and still no dividends paid, it was pretty clear for me, that this project will fail or even was designed to fail. There was a lot of fuzz around envion and because of their failure we was able to convince several people to invest into their own mining farm instead, which we setup and manage for them with our inhouse software solution.
Compared to envion, their investment did generate money from day 1 after completion - they are considered "wise men" now (in comparison to envion investors) - needless to say, that their farms haven't paid off yet, but they do generate a decent amount of monthly income.
"wise men" right your accounts first post november this year and the statements made in your posts dont really scream well informed at all. Care to Name this successfull mining operation? .. if your gonna say IRM your a clueless fool.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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MOAMiner
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December 07, 2018, 05:11:15 PM |
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well, you may know as well, that I have existed before I created the account, so the account age may not be a valid source of judgement. We also don't have any intention in naming our clients. But guess what, transactions on various coins are still getting confirmed, so that may give a hint, that there are still countless mining operations in duty.
Instead of attacking you may bring an argument? Envion promised a lot, their math was naiv in the first place (like they could convert investment into units instantly), they didn't show anything as promised in january and that non-showing kept until today - many individual mining operations which started at the same time DID work.
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sluppy
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December 07, 2018, 07:41:06 PM |
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well, you may know as well, that I have existed before I created the account, so the account age may not be a valid source of judgement. We also don't have any intention in naming our clients. But guess what, transactions on various coins are still getting confirmed, so that may give a hint, that there are still countless mining operations in duty.
Instead of attacking you may bring an argument? Envion promised a lot, their math was naiv in the first place (like they could convert investment into units instantly), they didn't show anything as promised in january and that non-showing kept until today - many individual mining operations which started at the same time DID work.
You come here and say how smart you are you knew in feb .. but you don't back that up with anything .. Your saying im so smart I knew back in feb it was nothing and everyone else was a idiot that still believed. Then your surprised I call you on that shit .. hmm k .
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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December 07, 2018, 09:34:17 PM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders). Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be?
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Smitty Werben Man Jensen
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December 07, 2018, 09:45:01 PM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders). Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be? I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely
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sluppy
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December 07, 2018, 10:50:07 PM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the official appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders). Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be? I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely I hope so 2 but my mainconcern atm is that I(we) get our invested money back whats left of it and making sure the Founders/MW are not claiming any of their tokens to steal our money. Im sure we wont get 100% back the missing funds i guess we can try and sue the Founders and MW for it seems like a lot of Mistakes where made on their side and probably some criminal acts but thats for the lawyers to decide. I personally will definatly look for legal ways to make them pay other then just giving whats left of the money they stole from us back if that compensation will be in money or jail time for them i dont care to much about.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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December 11, 2018, 03:20:12 AM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the officially appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders). Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be? I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team.
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December 11, 2018, 08:33:28 AM |
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I think we should at least expect that Envion team will return investments to their investors. But we shouldn't even expect that they can pay rewards for bounty hunters.
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Smitty Werben Man Jensen
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December 11, 2018, 10:35:30 AM |
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important update for all Envion investorswww.envion-konkurs.ch is the officially appointed liquidator. Please follow instructions and news from them. PS: It is now safe to leave all founder controlled social media channels (telegram, facebook, medium, twitter)and stop following their social media controlled by Founders). Is there any hope that these scammers will effectively end up in jail where they strongly deserve to be? I don't know for that matter either, but I hope the scammers can go to jail because of their actions that cannot be forgiven like cheating a lot of people and of course they can be scammers still roaming freely Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team. It's true that I personally support what you say because the team should announce its progress but until now there has been no announcement and I hope this problem can be resolved
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December 11, 2018, 01:22:09 PM |
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Yes, they raised more than 100 million and it is very bad to know that we don't see any special announcement from the team about their progress. I hope the government will take some legal action towards Envion team.
more than $ 100 million USD ?? means that this is a very successful ICO because it managed to collect that much money, but then ended up being a scam project? this is very crazy, they must be punished and return investors' funds
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December 11, 2018, 01:48:47 PM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
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December 11, 2018, 11:30:11 PM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO?
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December 11, 2018, 11:44:58 PM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO? you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year. but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good.
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December 12, 2018, 01:26:58 AM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO? you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year. but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good. Still, we don't have any news from team or from the concerned sources whether they are going to refund or not. There are many people lost hope on this envion team due to no repose from them or update from them.
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December 12, 2018, 07:12:56 AM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO? I suggest you read up some more in the relevant Telegram channels posted earlier.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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December 12, 2018, 07:23:33 AM |
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I also have seen this liquidator news and will see how things move ahead. People finally got rid of the so called founders and team. It still will remain to see how many people get refunded and how the whole process will be carried out. When everywhere is darkness a wave of light is always welcomed. Some people will get their money back at least if not all.
if people wants you get back their money they get only loss fro whom participated in the ICO through crypto investment when ico was going on in december 2017 then the price of eth and bitcoin was high and now everything in crypto fall down so crypto investors get back their money in crypto with almost 70% down price is it worth for get refunded from envion ICO? you are right if their is refunding to the investors then i think crypto investors should not thake back their money or if they refunded then they have to hodl them for atleast for one year. but still there is no clue that envion team will strict with the project or don't want to work on it right now iof they don't want to work on the project then refund is good. They didn't appeal its being liquidated there is no going on from here .. from here there will be liquidation and after that lawsuits for the founders&Laurent and MW.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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December 12, 2018, 04:01:57 PM |
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[...] we won't get any dividends from the Envion team because they scammed the people by showing fake promises to the investors.
Sorry to day that, but the promises from envion were wrong from the start one, the math was wrong. It was calculated as the units were produced instantly - which is impossible. The more money was given to them the lower (!!) the ROI in the first year would've been, because all that money has to be converted into units first. And they were so slow in the process, that they were unable to proof any running units after months have passed. The failure of envion was obvious in january '18 - at least IMO. Show me otherwise. It is incredible what happened with Envion. In the middle of Europe, Germany these guys has stolen more than 100 million dollars and there is no any outcome. It is unbelievable. I put a lot of efforts for the bounty and all efforts is just wasted and a lot of investor lost their hard earned money. That is modern organized crime. Incredible is the right word. Germany and Switzerland, where their company was registered, are supposed to be some of the most honest countries IN THE WORLD and the fact that thieves who have stolen over 100 million dollars are getting away with that instead of rotting now in some prison is simply untollerable. If the judicial system fails to actually deliver justice one cannot be surprised if and when victims end up looking for alternative ways to get justice.
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