1070 Ti benchmarked in Eth & Zec

[otto_diesel]

nice test thank you

but i dont get why 1070 ti worse than 1070 ? because gtc ti gpu's are better than normal gtx, it just    30-32MH/s   450-465 Sol/s. the difference is very little. it makes 1070 ti worse than 1070  if compared  the price/performance criterion.

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[Estomid]

Slightly disappointing unfortunately.  I think people should be sticking to the 1080ti for ETH and ZEC.  The 1070ti just isn't cutting it, apparently

 The 1080ti is a BAD choice for ETH, but a decent one for ZEC.
 WAY too expen$ive for the 35ish Mhash it can manage on ETH, when AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards can pull more than DOUBLE the hash/$ at recent pricing.

 1070ti is a GOOD ZEC card, in my testing of various cards it achieves THE highest efficiency (by a little) of any card in existance - though you can't build rigs as DENSE as you can with the 1080 ti.

 

I agree the 1080Ti is still the best for ZEC mining if you consider the total rig cost.

[jimlite]

lunobird,
If all you are mining is ZEC and your electric cost is very low, then maybe 1080 ti makes more sense then 1070 ti.
But for ETH the 1070ti is same speed due to lower latency memory which eth likes. And if you are going to be mining many different algos, the 1070ti is the most efficient and diverse card. I own a couple 1070, 1080 and 1080ti cards and know that 1080 sucks for eth due to its memory, the 1070 is faster at eth. The biggest issue is the 1080ti is about $250 more than a 1070ti for the almost the same performance in every algo but zec, or a little slower, but faster at eth. The HUGE issue is that any of these 3 gpus will make you about $1.50-$2.50/day, then subtract energy costs of $.50-$1/day and you get a profit of $1-$1.50/day per gpu. So it would take 200 to 250 days to make up the difference in cost between the 1070ti and 1080ti, that is why I hardly think a 1080ti is a good choice unless you are slot or motherboard limited. A 1080ti is going to take over a year just to ROI itself.

[umine]

According the results GTX1080 seems better than GTX1070Ti for core based algos like Equihash. The price of both a practically the same, power consumption also the same. Now my choise is GTX1080 not 1070Ti

[jimlite]

But 1070ti will be better at memory based algos like ETH / dagger than 1080. So the 1070ti is still the best all around every algo card for the price and watts. Yes if you are ONLY mining ETH go for 1070 or 1070ti, if you are only mining zec go for 1080 or 1080ti, but if you are mining many different algos over the next few years, 1070ti seems the best bet and value.

[Bulletdodger]

But 1070ti will be better at memory based algos like ETH / dagger than 1080. So the 1070ti is still the best all around every algo card for the price and watts. Yes if you are ONLY mining ETH go for 1070 or 1070ti, if you are only mining zec go for 1080 or 1080ti, but if you are mining many different algos over the next few years, 1070ti seems the best bet and value.

I think the improvement over the regular version is marginal.
Not an important car IMHO.

I'm sticking with 1080tis.

[QuintLeo]

tune a 1080ti the right way and it makes these cards look dumb. Doesn't make sense to me, it's like pissing in the wind..

 I like my 1080 ti cards but show me ONE that can manage better than 4.2 efficiency - and the settings to get there.

 1080 ti is the hashrate king hands down (unless you want to spend crazy money for a Titan or a Tesla) but it's NOT the effciency king.

 Hash/$ at the SYSTEM level it's pretty close either way between the 1070, 1070 ti , 1080, and 1080 ti - unless NVidia decides it NEEDS to answer the recent Vega price drop and drops the 1070/1070ti/1080 prices to stay competative.

[sundownz]

I currently have 1060s, 1070s, 1080s, and one 1080Ti.

I pre-ordered a few 1070-Ti.

I mine on ZPOOL on profit switching so... I think I will make a sheet showing the ZPOOL algos on each card vs. the cost... for my own reasons of course but I will share it when complete.

It may have a few specialties... for example the 1080s are great on a ton of algos where most folks don't consider them since they are bad at ETH.

Hey guys,

I did some cost vs. hash power analysis of all my system types...

4x 1060
3x 1070
3x 1070 Ti (currently just one installed... I multiplied it out for the total system cost / production)
3x 1080

I do have one system with a single 1080 Ti that I'll throw in the mix later (it's at home so I don't have the data in front of me).

This is JUST *cost* per "work unit" (whatever that is per algo) -- not factoring in power cost (I'll add that in later when I have time).

Basically... the 1060 systems clean house EVEN when I figure in the cost of the computer itself in nearly every category in terms of up-front costs per work unit.

And a surprise... the 1070 Ti is a *better* value than the regular 1070 at current pricing on almost all algos (except Equihash). I listed the price I used per card which is the best I can find at this time per card type.

Now... I didn't agonize over optimized every card. I simply gave them all the same 85% power rate and some basic overclocking... I did this for my reference mostly as I wanted to be sure building with 1060s is what I wanted to keep doing (and it is).

[jimlite]

Nice work, but that's a lot of data without much explanation. Correct me if I am wrong but buying a 1060 3gb for $200 or a 1060 6Gb for $300 is pretty pointless. It will not even do ETH or get terrible speeds due to not enough memory for DAG. I am sure it will also struggle on other memory needed algos like Keccak, ect. And bottom line is Why pay $325 for a 1060 6gb when you can just pay $460 for a 1070 Ti 8Gb which will CLEARLY give you way more hash (>25% more hash and card costs 25% more)? Plus it is more future proof. The only reason the 1060 looks cheaper to run is because it is a lot slower and uses less electricity. But even if you are paying high electric rates, a 1070Ti at like 70% power is only gonna pull 100-125w and give you like double the hash of a 1060 that is pulling about 75w or so. So Please explain how a 1060 rig makes any sense?

P.S. The ONLY algo that is not 2 to 3 times slower than a 1070ti or 1080/ti is ETH on a 6gb 1060. But you could buy one 1080Ti or two 1060 6gb cards for the same price and the 1080ti will beat both of the 1060's combined in every algo except ETH, then when ETH dag need more than 6 gb the 1060 will be useless. Unless you have a ton of motherboards, psus, cpus, ect just lying around and only a little cash to buy cards, the 1060 is a horrible choice, unless all you care about is ETH for a few months.

[kittiewat]

nice test thank you

i think get 1070 in low price is better then?

[phuocduong]

i think better price/ speed than 1080

[sundownz]

Nice work, but that's a lot of data without much explanation. Correct me if I am wrong but buying a 1060 3gb for $200 or a 1060 6Gb for $300 is pretty pointless. It will not even do ETH or get terrible speeds due to not enough memory for DAG. I am sure it will also struggle on other memory needed algos like Keccak, ect. And bottom line is Why pay $325 for a 1060 6gb when you can just pay $460 for a 1070 Ti 8Gb which will CLEARLY give you way more hash (>25% more hash and card costs 25% more)? Plus it is more future proof. The only reason the 1060 looks cheaper to run is because it is a lot slower and uses less electricity. But even if you are paying high electric rates, a 1070Ti at like 70% power is only gonna pull 100-125w and give you like double the hash of a 1060 that is pulling about 75w or so. So Please explain how a 1060 rig makes any sense?

P.S. The ONLY algo that is not 2 to 3 times slower than a 1070ti or 1080/ti is ETH on a 6gb 1060. But you could buy one 1080Ti or two 1060 6gb cards for the same price and the 1080ti will beat both of the 1060's combined in every algo except ETH, then when ETH dag need more than 6 gb the 1060 will be useless. Unless you have a ton of motherboards, psus, cpus, ect just lying around and only a little cash to buy cards, the 1060 is a horrible choice, unless all you care about is ETH for a few months.

I don't mine ETH at all anymore -- so that's off the table. I also don't buy 6GB cards anymore for this same reason (I do have some that I got before price inflation). I also only buy 1060 3GB that are $189.99-$199.99 per card.

I will include power data too soon as well to really get to the bottom of it & dig deeper.

Just keep in mind I have no agenda here -- I make nothing based on sharing my data... I am building a mining farm and I am *actually* buying hardware based on my data. I assume others may want to see it. As I collect more data I'll put it all out there =)

[sundownz]

nice test thank you

i think get 1070 in low price is better then?

The 1070 would look way better at a regular cost... the 1070s I own I paid no more than $329 for them (the majority I paid $299). But it's impossible now to get that.

I would buy them again at $329 or less.

[VoskCoin]

Very early conclusion. Nvidia is screwing up lately with all these new drivers, wait until they produce a good driver like in the old days and I am pretty sure the GTX 1070 ti can go over 520 sol/s easily and I expect it to reach about 35 Mhash in Ethereum. All those that canceled their pre order just because of "some test" made an error according to my opinion.

I canceled my 1070 ti pre order.  No regrets at all the 1070 ti is a big let down.  Getting the big mac daddy 1080 ti.  "Proven" to get the most hash per dollar spent with least amount of electricity used and less overall components(risers) to get the desired hashrate.

This might partially change your mind? 4.7 sols per watt O_o
https://youtu.be/jtp4plChU9Y

[pfft]

should i buy 1070ti or 1080 ? same price in my country ?

[sundownz]

Nice work, but that's a lot of data without much explanation. Correct me if I am wrong but buying a 1060 3gb for $200 or a 1060 6Gb for $300 is pretty pointless. It will not even do ETH or get terrible speeds due to not enough memory for DAG. I am sure it will also struggle on other memory needed algos like Keccak, ect. And bottom line is Why pay $325 for a 1060 6gb when you can just pay $460 for a 1070 Ti 8Gb which will CLEARLY give you way more hash (>25% more hash and card costs 25% more)? Plus it is more future proof. The only reason the 1060 looks cheaper to run is because it is a lot slower and uses less electricity. But even if you are paying high electric rates, a 1070Ti at like 70% power is only gonna pull 100-125w and give you like double the hash of a 1060 that is pulling about 75w or so. So Please explain how a 1060 rig makes any sense?

P.S. The ONLY algo that is not 2 to 3 times slower than a 1070ti or 1080/ti is ETH on a 6gb 1060. But you could buy one 1080Ti or two 1060 6gb cards for the same price and the 1080ti will beat both of the 1060's combined in every algo except ETH, then when ETH dag need more than 6 gb the 1060 will be useless. Unless you have a ton of motherboards, psus, cpus, ect just lying around and only a little cash to buy cards, the 1060 is a horrible choice, unless all you care about is ETH for a few months.

I don't mine ETH at all anymore -- so that's off the table. I also don't buy 6GB cards anymore for this same reason (I do have some that I got before price inflation). I also only buy 1060 3GB that are $189.99-$199.99 per card.

I will include power data too soon as well to really get to the bottom of it & dig deeper.

Just keep in mind I have no agenda here -- I make nothing based on sharing my data... I am building a mining farm and I am *actually* buying hardware based on my data. I assume others may want to see it. As I collect more data I'll put it all out there =)

So I've started the power data.

4x 1060 setup uses ~425 watts on the highest draw algo (at the wall).
3x 1070 Ti setup uses ~500 watts on the highest draw algo (at the wall).

So using WhatToMine right now... let's use Xevan on BitSend for example (my systems do that Algo alot)...

GTX 1060 System = $1609.40 / Year - $259.15 (power) = $1350.25
GTX 1070Ti System = $2383.30 / Year - $306.60 (power) = $2076.70
System Cost Difference = $578.69
GTX 1070Ti Extra Profit = $726.45
Time for 1070Ti system to win in profit = 290 days

So the 1070Ti system is going to win out with power to production over time -- at least based on the figures I measured with my quick & dirty method.

So next I will need to fully tweak both setups for max production per watt and see what I come up with. For my table I simply set them all at 85% TDP with a basic 100 core / 200 memory overclock.

I plan to use / re-sell my cards on a 1-year cycle as well. So when I go to refresh I may, in fact, switch to the bigger cards in more systems.

I will convert the table into something a bit more "in depth" once I am done collecting all the data together =)

PS: Here is some data on how I build my systems:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1955358.0

[QuintLeo]

nice test thank you

i think get 1070 in low price is better then?

The 1070 would look way better at a regular cost... the 1070s I own I paid no more than $329 for them (the majority I paid $299). But it's impossible now to get that.

I would buy them again at $329 or less.

 Must be nice - I've NEVER seen 1070s in that kind of price range, I think the LOWEST I ever saw them at NEW was $369 or $379.

 Are you talking new cards or used?

[sundownz]

nice test thank you

i think get 1070 in low price is better then?

The 1070 would look way better at a regular cost... the 1070s I own I paid no more than $329 for them (the majority I paid $299). But it's impossible now to get that.

I would buy them again at $329 or less.

 Must be nice - I've NEVER seen 1070s in that kind of price range, I think the LOWEST I ever saw them at NEW was $369 or $379.

 Are you talking new cards or used?

Made a mistake above (checked my records).

The lowest period was $319.99 for refurb EVGA 1070 full length cards -- early June this year direct from EVGA.

The lowest new was $329.99 for ZOTAC 1070 Minis -- mid May this year from Newegg.

Really wish I had gotten more, hah!

[QuintLeo]

3x 1070 Ti setup uses ~500 watts on the highest draw algo (at the wall).

 You are running them at an inefficient operating point.

 Try +200 core +700 memory at 60% TDP (106 watts) for an EFFICIENT operating point on the GTX 1070 ti, then tweek around that starting point.
 

[QuintLeo]

The lowest new was $329.99 for ZOTAC 1070 Minis -- mid May this year from Newegg.

Really wish I had gotten more, hah!

 Makes me wish I'd been LOOKING at NVidia cards harder that far back - though even that price had to have been a short-lived sale price.