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November 14, 2017, 05:47:10 PM
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I've been on the fence about stepping in the NVidia game from my AMD rigs. I only have two 20A circuits though and so can't really add more than two 6-8A rigs (in addition to my 13 RX 470/570)s

So that would be like 4 1070 TIs, right?

Can 4 1070s run on one 750W psu (if I have a smaller psu for the MOBO/access)?
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November 14, 2017, 10:41:42 PM
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4 GTX 1070 ti run at the OPTIMAL EFFICIENCY ballpark of 106 watts (give or take about 4 in my recent testing) should be comfortable on a good-quality 750 watt PS like a Seasonic X-750 Gold or EVGA G2 750 with enough left over to run the rest of the system.
 If you run them at full 180 watt TDP though, that's 720 watts average draw which is NOT going to run reliably on a single 750.

5 of them at 110 watt TDP are quite comfortable running on a single 850 - which pulls very close to 6 amps at the wall with a Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 and a FX-8350E based AM3+ system (CPU makes up for it's higher power draw vs an Intel G4600/4560 type system by mining Monero at about 320 hash/s).

5 of them on a low-power system would probably be close to 5.5 amps (might want to push TDP down to 106 or so to get to 5.3-5.4 range) - which is a comfortable fit on a 20 amp circuit for 3 such rigs.


 And yes, if you have not maxed out your available power and that power is cheap enough, it makes sense to run them at higher TDP levels for the extra hashrate - part of the reason I showed so many TDP power points in my testing.

 If you ARE pushing the limits of your available power, though, it CAN make sense to aim for better efficiency so you can run more cards and get more overall hashrate even if your power is FREE.


 Also, the more efficient points tend to let the card run cooler and with less fan speed, for better longevity.



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November 15, 2017, 12:24:14 AM
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Ended up buying 4 Vega 56s instead! Bring on the headaches!
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November 15, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
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4 GTX 1070 ti run at the OPTIMAL EFFICIENCY ballpark of 106 watts (give or take about 4 in my recent testing) should be comfortable on a good-quality 750 watt PS like a Seasonic X-750 Gold or EVGA G2 750 with enough left over to run the rest of the system.
 If you run them at full 180 watt TDP though, that's 720 watts average draw which is NOT going to run reliably on a single 750.

5 of them at 110 watt TDP are quite comfortable running on a single 850 - which pulls very close to 6 amps at the wall with a Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 and a FX-8350E based AM3+ system (CPU makes up for it's higher power draw vs an Intel G4600/4560 type system by mining Monero at about 320 hash/s).

5 of them on a low-power system would probably be close to 5.5 amps (might want to push TDP down to 106 or so to get to 5.3-5.4 range) - which is a comfortable fit on a 20 amp circuit for 3 such rigs.


 And yes, if you have not maxed out your available power and that power is cheap enough, it makes sense to run them at higher TDP levels for the extra hashrate - part of the reason I showed so many TDP power points in my testing.

 If you ARE pushing the limits of your available power, though, it CAN make sense to aim for better efficiency so you can run more cards and get more overall hashrate even if your power is FREE.


 Also, the more efficient points tend to let the card run cooler and with less fan speed, for better longevity.



along with this train of that thats why I chase efficiency, I have 100 amps, that's it lol so a max efficiency setup will give me most hash per watt + as you said a point I feel people dont often discuss is helping the longevity of the card


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November 15, 2017, 10:12:18 PM
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Testing out the Zotac 1070 TI Mini, pretty sweet for only $50 more give or take on that figure, same price as the non TI used to be during the massive price gouge era

When you going to build a 4 card VEGA rig and put a vid? Smiley
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November 15, 2017, 10:24:27 PM
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You`re hooked man, no escaping now from the minning addiction lol! Anyway, i like your videos, like your passion and dedication. Keep up the faith and the riches shall come!  Cool
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November 15, 2017, 11:24:14 PM
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Is there any degrade in hash performance with the mini's 1070ti vs standard 1070ti?  Is their degrade in cooling?  I am getting my 1070 ti msi titantiums this friday, can't wait to give it a spin.
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Is there any degrade in hash performance with the mini's 1070ti vs standard 1070ti?  Is their degrade in cooling?  I am getting my 1070 ti msi titantiums this friday, can't wait to give it a spin.

 The 1080 mini was a hair marginal on cooling if you pushed it anywhere close to it's default 180 watt TDP, but if you run it lower for better efficiency it should stay pretty cool.
 1070 ti mini has the same default TDP so it should have the same cooling "curve" as the 1080.

 I don't have a 1070 ti Zotac Mini yet but I DO have a couple of their 1070 and one of their 1080 models.


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November 16, 2017, 01:52:07 AM
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4 GTX 1070 ti run at the OPTIMAL EFFICIENCY ballpark of 106 watts (give or take about 4 in my recent testing) should be comfortable on a good-quality 750 watt PS like a Seasonic X-750 Gold or EVGA G2 750 with enough left over to run the rest of the system.
 If you run them at full 180 watt TDP though, that's 720 watts average draw which is NOT going to run reliably on a single 750.

5 of them at 110 watt TDP are quite comfortable running on a single 850 - which pulls very close to 6 amps at the wall with a Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 and a FX-8350E based AM3+ system (CPU makes up for it's higher power draw vs an Intel G4600/4560 type system by mining Monero at about 320 hash/s).

5 of them on a low-power system would probably be close to 5.5 amps (might want to push TDP down to 106 or so to get to 5.3-5.4 range) - which is a comfortable fit on a 20 amp circuit for 3 such rigs.


 And yes, if you have not maxed out your available power and that power is cheap enough, it makes sense to run them at higher TDP levels for the extra hashrate - part of the reason I showed so many TDP power points in my testing.

 If you ARE pushing the limits of your available power, though, it CAN make sense to aim for better efficiency so you can run more cards and get more overall hashrate even if your power is FREE.


 Also, the more efficient points tend to let the card run cooler and with less fan speed, for better longevity.




a 1200-1300w platinum or titanium rated PSU will push the efficiency a bit more, because typically PSUs efficiency curve peaks at round 50% of max load capacity
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November 16, 2017, 01:57:41 AM
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I still think its better to buy 1080 ti instead , you might be giving up some /little efficency for the density but in the end you are going for long yerm benefit , because these will still stand there fround against next gen gpus and hence price fall wont be that much for resale and 1080 ti just sounds much cooler than a 1070ti :p , But yeah this. Efficency is a good step Smiley
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I still think its better to buy 1080 ti instead , you might be giving up some /little efficency for the density but in the end you are going for long yerm benefit , because these will still stand there fround against next gen gpus and hence price fall wont be that much for resale and 1080 ti just sounds much cooler than a 1070ti :p , But yeah this. Efficency is a good step Smiley

1070 ti is gddr5

1080/1080 ti is gddr5x ---> this generation or memory may bring future advantages

regarding density 1070 ti is not very far from 1080 ti, 1060 is ...

anyway density is efficiency too..lets say a 5x 1080 ti rig is ~3500 sols that is a 7x 1070 ti rig, the point is if your motherboards is 5x pcie, you need another board/system to put the 2x 1070 ti, additional system power consumption reduces overall efficiency.

assuming space is not a problem, but for home based miners with a room/basement allocated to mining (limited space) density is a must.
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November 16, 2017, 02:38:33 AM
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I'm paying 15 cent summer rates and 22 cents winter rates for electricity.  I need all the efficiency I can get with these high California electrical rates and still maintain my hobby.  All my power supply's are evga t2 titantium efficiency with 220 volt so it runs at 96 percent efficiency.

I have 9x 1080 ti's so looking forward for the  4x 1070 ti'.  Hoping to complete my 3 rig's,  got a few more slots to fill

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November 16, 2017, 10:42:46 PM
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I have been buying 1060's for their efficiency and lower price point. I might try to do a new rig soon with the 1070Ti's as I value power efficiency over raw hash rate after reading through these results.

Anyone manage to tweak their 1070 TI to the point of a 5 sols per watts efficiency level yet?

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Great post, This is definitely the card's i will end up with once i expand my mining a bit.

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November 17, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
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I have been buying 1060's for their efficiency and lower price point. I might try to do a new rig soon with the 1070Ti's as I value power efficiency over raw hash rate after reading through these results.

Anyone manage to tweak their 1070 TI to the point of a 5 sols per watts efficiency level yet?

 Not me - seems like the peak efficiency point is VERY VERY close to that 60% point I came up with (and others have also independently determined).

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November 17, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
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I have been buying 1060's for their efficiency and lower price point. I might try to do a new rig soon with the 1070Ti's as I value power efficiency over raw hash rate after reading through these results.

Anyone manage to tweak their 1070 TI to the point of a 5 sols per watts efficiency level yet?

 Not me - seems like the peak efficiency point is VERY VERY close to that 60% point I came up with (and others have also independently determined).


And it seems to depend on the card type. My G1 Gaming is doing good but not that great unfortunately. If I see another good deal for a 1070 Ti I will try with another brand/model.

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November 18, 2017, 12:58:49 AM
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Might need to tweek the core clock and memory settings for other models/brands.

 My next planned buy is a Zotac 1070ti mini, due to a "physical fit" issue with the new shelf setup I'm building.


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I just built a 7 Card - EVGA GTX 1070 ti - rig.  What settings did you use from quint? 

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Hello Vosk
don't you have an overheating issue because your card a really close one to each other?
actually it is not quite good, in my build I leave space about 3-4 sm between cards so there will be better air circulation
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November 19, 2017, 02:32:06 PM
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I have been buying 1060's for their efficiency and lower price point. I might try to do a new rig soon with the 1070Ti's as I value power efficiency over raw hash rate after reading through these results.

Anyone manage to tweak their 1070 TI to the point of a 5 sols per watts efficiency level yet?
6gb or 3gb and are you mining eth / ethash with them?
What settings and brand // what memory are in your cards

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