TerraHash Order Queue and info

[Vigil]

If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later

I know where to get some chips for BTC.1, but I don't know the date of their group buy. I know it is before the last 20k order from TH.

Edit: OK, nevermind, they are raising their price to BTC.2, but they are also working on boards which are going to be OCed to 350 MH/s chip supposedly. These dudes with the group buys are going to shoot themselves in the foot because they are going to be undercut by big board-makers. Then ASICMiner is coming out with their nextgen chips sometime in Oct./Nov.

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[Silvas]

If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later

I know where to get some chips for BTC.1, but I don't know the date of their group buy. I know it is before the last 20k order from TH.

At 0.1 per chip that would be pretty close to TH pricing anyways, so if you knew for sure you could get the chips significantly quicker, then yes it would probably be worth it imo.  Given that you've got additional shipping delays having chips shipped to you, then re-shipped to TH (unless you could get them shipped direct from your seller to TH and TH made aware of them being yours even though someone else was sending them), you'd need to be able to get them at least 2 weeks sooner to account for extra shipping time plus actually see some benefit (if the time difference in the end  is only a couple days, is it really worth the trouble to go through?)

[gill83]

If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later

Isn't it true that Avalon is getting a million chips manufactured in a bulk order from the foundry, and will be shipping them all together?

[Silvas]

If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later

Isn't it true that Avalon is getting a million chips manufactured in a bulk order from the foundry, and will be shipping them all together?

We don't really know that for sure.  TH said that Avalon told him that they were bulk ordering from the foundry and he expects his new order to not be more than a week or 2 after the original.  So that would somewhat indicate that they're not shipping them all together.  Plus, Avalon hasn't exactly been too good at timely delivery of products or being upfront with customers, so who knows.  They're certainly not as bad as BFL has been, but they're not good either.
Also, if they are waiting and doing these all in bulk and shipping at once, they'd be delaying all the early orders to coincide with the later ones.  Considering we're already around 6-8 weeks past the first of the chip buys, that could piss off a lot of people - not that I think they give a damn what their customers think. 
They've got this tech ideology thing going on where they just want to do cool stuff with tech and don't want to deal with customers and support and making people happy.  It's great for an engineer to have that attitude, not so much for a businessperson.

[Igor_Rast]

Probably some of the latst orders before they closed it

Hope I get them fast :p

Please update

Order # 1321  date :21-06-2013   2 x K-16 ; (Chipcount :32)  Payed with bitcoins

Thanks 

[Shimple]

Order #1230, I sent the money via wire transfer on Thursday, so this money it should be cleared. So? (Paid)

I ordered 3x 18GHs boards. 3x 64 chips if I'm not mistaken = 194 chips.

Order #1230, paid 192 chips

[Cryptoin]

So I've added a sheet where users can leave updates, questions and comments right in the order tracking workbook.  If you have any problems editing it let me know.  Also if you haven't submitted your order information via the submission form please do so as this database will be much better for long term tracking of orders and providing further analytics.

The form is linked below and in my sig.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fbmA05bCiiQlHJcO6m60Uk45Os5nyC3XOYTKRSRrfm8/viewform

I also will be generating a new topic that lays this process/information out a bit better and will be in the OP instead of spread all across this thread.

Cryptoin, you've done some amazing work for everyone who ordered from Terrahash.  If you post a BTC address I wouldn't mind sending you a little something for your efforts.  I encourage everyone else who ordered from Terrrahash and uses his spreadsheet to do the same.

Thanks all.  You can find my LTC and BTC addresses in my sig but it may be cut off on smaller screens.  The workbook is obviously still a work in progress so I apologize if you try to visit it and it isn't working at the time l (likely because I am editing it) and at the moment the database sheet has been a huge pain in the ass to get working properly but I think I have it figured out now.  Once I get that completely corrected and all of the latest data updated I will probably start to try to revamp the workbook so everything is feeding off the user submitted database.  The eventual goal here is not only have something that I don't really have to do much to maintain but also could be used as a template for order tracking on future orders from other companies as well.  I encourage anyone to save a copy themselves and review it.  Certainly if you find any issues or improvements let me know.

[Igor_Rast]

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my order date sould be 21-6 . could you correct for me

Thanks

Nice work by the way +1

[redmetal]

#537 : 1x K64   (paid)

I don't think I will be in the first 10k, but here to hoping

[Cryptoin]

So the sheet should be completely up to date for the moment.  That basically leaves us at a for sure cut off of the first 10,000 around order around order 500 best case scenario.  It is more likely in the 490s.  The 20,000 chip cut off will likely fall in the 630s or 640s.

[Cryptoin]

Also note that if you submit your order via the form it will show up at the bottom of the database list until I have a chance to come in and click the filter again.  I may create a script that will do this automatically but it is rather low on the priority list right now since I still have to manually input all the data on the chip sheet.

[Vigil]

How do we access just the list? I've already entered my data in there. I'm #1190 - trying to see how many chips are before me.

[Cryptoin]

How do we access just the list? I've already entered my data in there. I'm #1190 - trying to see how many chips are before me.

The chip list is on the second worksheet (the tabs at the bottom of the page)  It is called "Order Chip Counts".  At order # 1190 you are around the 40,000 chip mark by my estimates.

The workbook can be accessed via the link below or in my signature.  There is also a link to it when you submit the form.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing

[cad_cdn]

#827 is my only paid order. sorry, somehow #828 got on there.

delete #828 I believe. (It's Not mine anyway)

[gidi337]

i am sorry if this is not the correct location as i am not sure where to put it.

i bought 3x 64 boards.

i would like to sell them on for a good price (either all together or seperately).

my order number is 449 so its in batch one.

please pm me for offers

kind regards

[gnoll110]

#707
2 x k16 = 32 chips

For the allocation of the first 10K & 20K of chips, I think only the chips on K16 boards should be considered.

I think K64 development lag will be at least a month. Draft CAD/CAM printer circuit board (PCB) designs don't exist in BKKCoins github repo https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike/tree/master/kicad yet. His still actively refining the K16 prototype atm.

My two cents worth.

[pixl8tr]

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.

Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.

[klee]

Order: #1324
TerraHash DX Large
Number of Modules: 2 (36 GHash/sec), paid for hosting

[bebfoo]

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.

Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.

Yes, the site clearly lists the boards as different:

K-64: https://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/

Size: 20cm x 20cm
Number of chips: 64


K-16: https://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

Size: 10cm x 10cm
Number of chips: 16

Hoping there won't be a delay in the K64s.

[TheSwede75]

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.

Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.

Yes, the site clearly lists the boards as different:

K-64: https://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/

Size: 20cm x 20cm
Number of chips: 64


K-16: https://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

Size: 10cm x 10cm
Number of chips: 16

Hoping there won't be a delay in the K64s.

K-64 is simply 4x K-16 period. They even have connectors for this very purpose fitted onto the K-16 reference design.