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February 06, 2018, 09:12:09 AM
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For example,if i post ICO Project in Altcoin Announcements my images will not displayed if i don't pay this little fee?

Almost the same question here. If I buy this status can I start ANN with images?

Well rather than me tell you the answer I'm going to quote the first paragraph of the OP and see if you can work it out.

By popular demand, newbies can now pay to have some of their restrictions lifted. If you pay the fee, you become a Copper Member, and you can post images. That's the main point of this: allowing newbies to post images.

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February 07, 2018, 10:29:58 AM
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Can I also post more than one priv msgs to other users? How it will increase my daily limit?
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February 07, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
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Can I also post more than one priv msgs to other users? How it will increase my daily limit?

Buying a Copper Membership means you will be whitelisted. PM limits increase with activity as per the table below.

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You are automatically whitelisted if you buy a copper membership. You don't need to wear the copper membership, just own it. You can also be whitelisted for free by any staff member and a few non-staff, but we're going to need some reason to think that you actually deserve it. Do not ask me for free whitelisting.

Whitelisting is a not a license to spam. You will be immediately banned if you're found spamming, even if you bought a copper membership (and you will not be refunded).

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February 10, 2018, 11:01:30 AM
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-snip-
- Your "you must wait ____ seconds between ___" counter is reduced by 75%. So if you're naturally of Newbie rank, you only have to wait 360-75% = 90 seconds.
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FYI, because I just ran into it: The 75% reduction does -sadly- not affect the hard limit of 4 seconds between certain actions (including posts and reports). No, its not an issue and I will not ask for a refund. Wink

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February 10, 2018, 12:07:09 PM
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FYI, because I just ran into it: The 75% reduction does -sadly- not affect the hard limit of 4 seconds between certain actions (including posts and reports). No, its not an issue and I will not ask for a refund. Wink
Nuts. I was actually contemplating buying Copper Membership solely to be able to report more than one post every 4 seconds. Now how am I supposed to keep up with the shitposters? Undecided

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February 10, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
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FYI, because I just ran into it: The 75% reduction does -sadly- not affect the hard limit of 4 seconds between certain actions (including posts and reports). No, its not an issue and I will not ask for a refund. Wink
Nuts. I was actually contemplating buying Copper Membership solely to be able to report more than one post every 4 seconds. Now how am I supposed to keep up with the shitposters? Undecided

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February 10, 2018, 02:33:46 PM
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This seems interesting. I suppose I can see the merits (pun not intended) of taking the chance to become a copper member. Will have to think about it.

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February 10, 2018, 11:15:09 PM
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I paid to receive the copper membership but it doesnt appear to be activated I paid yesterday

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February 11, 2018, 05:13:06 AM
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I paid to receive the copper membership but it doesnt appear to be activated I paid yesterday

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February 12, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2018, 03:07:54 PM by nullius
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[2018-03-11 edit:  Struck out/modified some of my suggestions; issued correction, q.v.]

@theymos

Has the potential been considered of allowing paid accounts to have avatars at low rank, via Copper Membership or otherwise?

It seems reasonable to expect that this would substantially enhance the draw of paid membership; I think it perhaps could even justify a moderate huge bump in price.  I speak from experience:  When I was a Newbie Copper Member, I myself would have paid extra to sport an avatar—say, the equivalent of $10 more.  (Now, I wouldn’t; I’m only about a month away from Full Member.)  Avatars are fairly basic forum self-styling functionality, and not really a good indicator of rank:  As it stands, you only need to be active for a bit over four months to get an avatar; and there are no further enhancements to avatars at higher ranks.

I did enjoy Copper Membership’s allowance of links in my signature (as it did at the time).  I used that to link to my PGP keys on keyservers, to my Bitcoin tip addresses, and later (as Jr. Member) to some open-source Bitcoin utilities I’ve written.  Of course, most important to me was the principal practical feature of Copper Membership:  The ability to post images, which improved the quality of many of my early posts.

I dislike the idea of possibly inviting more visual assaults from advertising, especially annoying ad APNGs.  On the other hand, who would pay enough for rented avatar space to make it worthwhile to risk buying paid membership for a spammy account?  I am not familiar with ad rates, but I do know:  An avatar is much smaller than a signature, and most importantly, it’s not clickable.  The avatar of a widely-respected Hero or Legendary might be worth something at market, if only for “branding”; but I doubt a newbie farmed/spammer account holder would find it worthwhile to pay a significant fee just for the avatar.

Apologies if this has already been discussed.


FYI, because I just ran into it: The 75% reduction does -sadly- not affect the hard limit of 4 seconds between certain actions (including posts and reports). No, its not an issue and I will not ask for a refund. ;)
Nuts. I was actually contemplating buying Copper Membership solely to be able to report more than one post every 4 seconds. Now how am I supposed to keep up with the shitposters? :-\

I’ve actually been bitten by that.  Actually.

My qualifications for whining humorously nitpicking:  “You have reported 257 posts with 100% accuracy” (within a total amount of forum time which currently gives me an 84 activity level).

I tend to batch things methodically.  If I find a clump of spam posts (as so oft occurs), I will open each one in a new tab, write my report texts in a text editor, then repeatedly iterate through the tabs clicking “Report to moderator”, copypasting, double-checking, and then sending the reports.  Call it the reporting machine-gun method.  By such means, it has occasionally happened that I tried to submit more than one report within 4 seconds.

(To be clear, I do not actually see this limit as a problem.)

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February 12, 2018, 08:56:42 PM
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For example,if i post ICO Project in Altcoin Announcements my images will not displayed if i don't pay this little fee?

Almost the same question here. If I buy this status can I start ANN with images?

Yes, I have it on my organization profile.  It works well for including images in posts.

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February 12, 2018, 09:51:00 PM
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Super useful for new users who sincerely want to contribute to the board and have been part of the community but didn't have BT accounts. I agree higher paid membership tiers whose proceeds go to charity or to developers would be valuable as well.

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February 13, 2018, 07:38:24 AM
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many people had benefitted from the forum and I think the forum should provide a way to give back to it, to service the forum and motivate the moderators. More should be demanded from high rank members also and ICO investors. I hope in the future, campaign will also require funding the forum not only to control the crowdsale but to limit use.

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February 27, 2018, 12:19:26 AM
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The gap between Member and full member is really huge in terms of merits. It takes ten times more effort to become a full member than it took to become a member. If a new paid membership with half full member benefits can be added, that would be awesome indeed.

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February 27, 2018, 12:47:28 PM
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@theymos

Has the potential been considered of allowing paid accounts to have avatars at low rank, via Copper Membership or otherwise?

This is one of the perks I suggested of one of the potential higher donator ranks. Maybe for a "Silver" one if additional ranks get implemented (though theymos has said there's no current plans to add any new ranks). I don't think it should be included with Copper though and that rank should essentially just be a bare bones one with only minimal benefits (essentially being an automatic whitelisting).

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February 27, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
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[2018-03-11 edit:  Struck out some of my suggestions; issued correction, q.v.]

@theymos

Has the potential been considered of allowing paid accounts to have avatars at low rank, via Copper Membership or otherwise?

This is one of the perks I suggested of one of the potential higher donator ranks. Maybe for a "Silver" one if additional ranks get implemented (though theymos has said there's no current plans to add any new ranks). I don't think it should be included with Copper though and that rank should essentially just be a bare bones one with only minimal benefits (essentially being an automatic whitelisting).

Thanks, hilarious.  I do think it’s reasonable to not include avatars in the current Copper Membership offering.  However, I don’t see why it would be required to add another paid membership level; that seems to unnecessarily complicate matters.  I suggest instead that avatars should be offered as an à la carte add-on for those who already buy Copper.

For personal use in an account expected to “rank up” normally within a few months, as I said in my post:

When I was a Newbie Copper Member, I myself would have paid extra to sport an avatar—say, the equivalent of $10 more.

The business use case could be different.  For example, consider a role account which functions as a fully disclosed alt, and mostly just does occasional announcements.  Such an account may never reach Full Member status—and it certainly shouldn’t play evil games to bump up posts/merit for that purpose!  At present, there exists no means at all for such an account to display a simple graphical business logo.

For that use case, I think a fair avatar add-on price would be 50–100% of the current price of Copper Membership (thus making the total price 150–200% of Copper’s current price).

Such an account would also need simple hyperlinks in its signature, which Copper already semi-unofficially provides.  I don’t see any reason why such an account could legitimately need a fancy signature—ever.

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March 03, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
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Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?
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March 03, 2018, 05:46:33 PM
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Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?
Don't worry you will be a newbie in few minutes after making 1 post.
Afaik, all ranks can buy copper member, it is not limited to newbies, for brand new it should be the same but it is wise to wait few minutes until the update occurs.

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Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?

Yes, you can buy Copper Membership and “wear” it when “Brand New”.  There is no reason to wait.  After you create your account, simply follow the instructions at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

I myself was already wearing my Copper Membership when I made my first post.

N.b. that this can substitute for paying the “evil IP” fee, if you created your account through Tor, a VPN, or a proxy.  If you want Copper Membership, ignore the “unproxyban” instructions; and follow the above link instead.  The Copper Membership fee is larger than the “evil IP” fee, and will absolve you of the evil.  For Tor, etc. users who intend to go Copper anyway, purchasing it when “Brand New” will save a transaction fee:  1 tx to buy Copper, rather than 2 tx for “evil IP” + Copper.  (I am a Tor user:  All Tor, all the time.)

@theymos, please consider adding a link to the “credit;promote” page on the “credit;unproxyban” page with a brief explanation.  That would help users who want Copper anyway, and probably sell more memberships.

(Of course, all the foregoing is irrelevant to you, Jonas_SONDER:  As of this writing; you already have made 4 posts; and I see you at “Newbie” status.  The foregoing information is provided for the benefit of others.)

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March 05, 2018, 08:07:46 AM
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Wanna be Copper member ASAP!! Any advice?

Go back to the opening post of this thread, open your eyes and read it, follow the instructions to become a Copper Member. Then stop making pointless posts like this to avoid getting banned for spamming.

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