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 Author Topic: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest  (Read 444441 times)
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 July 15, 2013, 02:05:13 AM

Next question:

When the socket returns a "result," what is the value of stats.luck supposed to represent?

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 July 15, 2013, 02:13:06 AM

Next question:

When the socket returns a "result," what is the value of stats.luck supposed to represent?

It's the overall luck of all players, which is number of bets they've won as a fraction of the number they are expected to have won, given the chances they've been playing at, multiplied by the number of bets that have been placed.  If you divide it by the total number of bets placed and multiply by 100, you get the site luck as displayed on the page.

Ugly, I know, but it serves you right for peeking!

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 July 15, 2013, 02:17:01 AM

The bankroll of this site scares me.

EDIT: Dynamic image with the site's bankroll. Maybe add to OP?

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 July 15, 2013, 02:40:45 AM

The big player is back again, if anyone's interested:

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 July 15, 2013, 02:59:39 AM

The big player is back again, if anyone's interested:

Always fun to watch someone bet thousands of BTC!

I divested at the bottom today, as I needed to get some BTC to BTCT, but I did manage to win back my investing losses from the house

I'm still invested, somewhat, through my investment in DMS.SELLING, however, so I'm still watching!
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 July 15, 2013, 03:40:03 AM

Hey Dooglus, I know your busy with lots of crazy stuff with the site, but can I suggest some stuff?

• A problem you may develop far in the future is that you might have a lot of lost coins sitting in user accounts. I suggest that every user is forced to add a withdraw address so they can be credited if the account has not been used for 10 years or until the site closes. Also this is good for emergencies.
• If I want to watch two users in two windows I open private browsing and filter them by user ID. But then when I close I never access those accounts again. I suspect you will eventually have millions of accounts that were one use and have never even had a balance. I suggest accounts that have been used once with no login and no balance be terminated and removed internally to save database space. Perhaps re-enter the user ID back into the pool of ID's for new users.
• Could you please allow API access to the data located at https://just-dice.com/roll/1 so users can download everything (or even have a torrent of the data updated weekly) This will allow analysis over the data and put to rest any allegations that owners or whales have found weaknesses in the system and are taking advantage.

Thanks Dooglus, I really like the site and the entertainment over the past few days has been incredible.
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 July 15, 2013, 04:32:15 AM

Site will be down for 5 minutes.
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 July 15, 2013, 05:17:32 AMLast edit: July 15, 2013, 05:50:45 AM by FreeMoney

I enjoyed my beating today. The max profit is set much lower now. I see in the chat it is temporary. But in case the future of that parameter may not be 1%, I'd like to cast my unofficial vote that be 1% or higher.

edit: I see it is set to normal! Now I can get back to betting the max, ha, kidding.

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 July 15, 2013, 07:40:15 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

It is not accurate 100% of the time, however it is enough to offset the 1% edge. I have personally made more than 80 BTC from this.

You will need to ssh in the server, as the code for this project is highly secret. To get access you will need to send me your public key and I will add you for 5 BTC.

Special offer: I am offering 3 free sessions with hero members. Play 200 rolls and let everyone follow your results.

I'd like to try a free session.
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 July 15, 2013, 07:44:41 AM

PM me your public key and I will add it to the system and give you the IP. You can play 200 rolls in the next 24 hours. You must leave feedback after you play and post the results.

Just do this: ssh justdice@[IP address] and you'll be in. If you generate a new hash you'll have to exit out of the terminal session and reconnect.
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 July 15, 2013, 07:47:13 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

It is not accurate 100% of the time, however it is enough to offset the 1% edge. I have personally made more than 80 BTC from this.

That's interesting. I understand you want to keep the basics secret, but could you give some hint what your predictor is doing?

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 July 15, 2013, 07:50:38 AM

Sorry but then it would be much easier to fix.

Happy to give you a free session. Just PM me your ssh key.
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 July 15, 2013, 08:02:57 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

It is not accurate 100% of the time, however it is enough to offset the 1% edge. I have personally made more than 80 BTC from this.

You will need to ssh in the server, as the code for this project is highly secret. To get access you will need to send me your public key and I will add you for 5 BTC.

Special offer: I am offering 3 free sessions with hero members. Play 200 rolls and let everyone follow your results.

If you actually had a predictor why would you sell it? You could go make 80 bitcoins 100x over by yourself.
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 July 15, 2013, 08:07:48 AM

What a load of rubbish lol. Why would someone be sellign something like that
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 July 15, 2013, 08:08:32 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

It is not accurate 100% of the time, however it is enough to offset the 1% edge. I have personally made more than 80 BTC from this.

You will need to ssh in the server, as the code for this project is highly secret. To get access you will need to send me your public key and I will add you for 5 BTC.

Special offer: I am offering 3 free sessions with hero members. Play 200 rolls and let everyone follow your results.

If you actually had a predictor why would you sell it? You could go make 80 bitcoins 100x over by yourself.

This.

Note that the same poster selling the 'predictor' is also trying to sell shares to a terribly vague mining operation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256531.0).

I'm not buying it.
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 July 15, 2013, 09:04:37 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

I cannot stress this strongly enough - this is a complete fabrication.  There is no way to predict the results of an HMAC without knowing the key being used.  The goal of 'God9394' is to take your bitcoins, this is how he intends to make profit.  There is a lot of variance in just-dice (as we have seen with the -2000 profit!) so he will claim that any 'positive results' is because of his algorithm and not just because of luck - this is why he is asking for testers!

The relative security of HMAC-SHA-256+ when used in either case is dependent on the distribution scope and unpredictability of the associated secret key.[source]

Do not give this guy any bitcoins!  That is the only way he will make money out of this scam.

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 July 15, 2013, 09:29:46 AM

I am selling a hmac-sha512 predictor. After usually 4 bets, the predictor will tell you if you should bet low or bet high (for 50%)

It is not accurate 100% of the time, however it is enough to offset the 1% edge. I have personally made more than 80 BTC from this.

You will need to ssh in the server, as the code for this project is highly secret. To get access you will need to send me your public key and I will add you for 5 BTC.

Special offer: I am offering 3 free sessions with hero members. Play 200 rolls and let everyone follow your results.

Show a live video of you using it and maybe someone would even believe it works and isn't just random.

BEEP BEP
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 July 15, 2013, 10:23:09 AM

I cannot stress this strongly enough - this is a complete fabrication.  There is no way to predict the results of an HMAC without knowing the key being used.  The goal of 'God9394' is to take your bitcoins, this is how he intends to make profit.  There is a lot of variance in just-dice (as we have seen with the -2000 profit!) so he will claim that any 'positive results' is because of his algorithm and not just because of luck - this is why he is asking for testers!

The relative security of HMAC-SHA-256+ when used in either case is dependent on the distribution scope and unpredictability of the associated secret key.[source]

Do not give this guy any bitcoins!  That is the only way he will make money out of this scam.

Will

This isn't that far fetched if Just Dice uses a predictable way of generating random numbers. For example, if the server seed was a PRNG seeded by time then...

Of course, I think dooglus is smart enough to use a cryptographically secure PRNG to seed.
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 July 15, 2013, 10:35:31 AM

Hey doog,

How do I access the websocket from localhost/other domain? It always says
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Origin null is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin

Help is appreciated.
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 July 15, 2013, 10:35:57 AM

You'll need to do some JS hackery. I'll post the code I'm using for tfbot.
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