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Author Topic: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest  (Read 442939 times)
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June 23, 2014, 10:21:45 PM
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Does Just-Dice "deal in virtual currency"? Since the new law doesn't define what that means, I'm erring on the side of caution.
But shouldn't it be irrelevant as long as the website isn't actually hosted on a Canadian server?
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June 23, 2014, 10:23:13 PM
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I'm just wondering why didn't you just hit the "send them to the emergency withdrawal address" button, instead?
Is your emergency withdrawal address up to date? How mad would you be if you put an old address you don't have anymore in there?
Of course it is, I would be pretty stupid otherwise.
What if there was an actual emergency, where he couldn't just wait for the people to calmly withdraw?


Then he will have to go with the emergency withdrawal addresses. Thankfully he didn't have to get there.

After about a week if someone still didn't withdraw their coins, he will have to start investigating where to send the rest of the coins.

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June 23, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
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It feels like dooglus is just confused.  The government is concerned about exchanges where a CAD/BTC exchange would be involved.  They didn't stab their flag into Bitcoin and say "WE DECLARE THIS MONEY AFTER ALL!".
The ones getting effected the most by this would be localbitcoins.com and canadianbitcoins.com (they send cash in the mail, lol) and of course ATMs.  Anything that is an isolated business within Bitcoin and has nothing to do with CAD (Canadian Dollars) would not be affected by this bill.





i think so too, and i think just-dice is very cautious (overly maybe)

but on the other hand i do agree with the "better safe than sorry" approach.

Let's just wait this one out and when dust settles things can hopefully return to business again.
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June 23, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
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Site is good enough to trust them, but be carefull what you write on chat-box. I got banned for 1 hour by site owner (Dooglus) for asking if someone has bitcointalk forum account to sell (i guess chat-box is there only for dooglus-ass-lickers and mods in general). And i wagered 140+ BTC till that moment on that site and have been very active there for 1 month. Now i'm gonne, no more bets from my side.

I have never banned anyone for asking to buy a forum account. I'm not sure why you're saying I did.

I've never banned anyone for being critical of the site either. I often argue with people who have views opposed to mine, and never mute them for disagreeing with me. I do mute obvious scammers and people who are just spamming the chat with junk or advertisements. If you just keep saying "the site is rigged" but aren't willing to expand on your reasoning then I'll mute you too. I don't think any of that is unreasonable.

If you tell me what account you were on I can look at the logs and see what happened if you like.

It may be that one of the chat moderators muted you without a good reason. I'd like to look into it.

I will keep myself uncovered, but if you were a bit more interested in finding out you would allready figure it out, but as i said, you give no fuck about your players, and that includes having mods that dont give a fuck about players (they are just doing by the orders you give them).

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June 23, 2014, 10:54:19 PM
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Site is good enough to trust them, but be carefull what you write on chat-box. I got banned for 1 hour by site owner (Dooglus) for asking if someone has bitcointalk forum account to sell (i guess chat-box is there only for dooglus-ass-lickers and mods in general). And i wagered 140+ BTC till that moment on that site and have been very active there for 1 month. Now i'm gonne, no more bets from my side.

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00:48:40 (393) <@DeCiB3l> "Site is good enough to trust them, but be carefull what you write on chat-box. I got banned for 1 hour by site owner (Dooglus) for asking if someone has bitcointalk forum account to sell (i guess chat-box is there only for dooglus-ass-lickers and mods in
00:48:44 (393) <@DeCiB3l> lol
00:48:55 (678506) <tRicky> LOL
00:49:03 (273771) <Mikey> lol
00:49:45 (605159) <GamblingBad> where did u find that?
00:50:05 (840556) <Dorkeye> Sounds like that fuck sandi.
00:50:05 (836587) <nyla> just give it a try, has someone btctalk forum account to sell ? :D
00:50:06 (4281) <Arrogant> i'll give you .8 klye
00:50:16 (291109) <@MacBeth> @tiff if it's regulated, other laws might apply which make this site illegal to operate
00:50:17 (840556) <Dorkeye> Hello fish
00:50:25 (137298) <brad1121> @Deb how long do you expect to be down
00:50:34 (294707) <tiffany> ah
00:50:33 (4281) <Arrogant> ./ignore 840556
00:50:42 (840556) <Dorkeye> huh?
03:09:58 <system> (291109) <@MacBeth> muted (836587) <nyla> for 60 seconds

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June 23, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
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Muted for 60 seconds might be a joke. It's not the first time i have seen someone being muted/kicked as a joke (on other chatrooms, not on just-dice).
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June 23, 2014, 10:59:33 PM
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Sorry the Canada ruling, which I would have thought would be a good thing for bitcoin, has forced you to suspend action on just dice and doge dice.  However, I think that is exactly the right call, you've gone above and beyond to be clear with investors and players and I'm inclined to trust your judgement in this case.  I hope you get the servers moved to a place you can operate confidently and maybe even the "play coin" site will be fun.

Good Luck!

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June 23, 2014, 11:07:18 PM
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Cloudflare claims JD is down by the way... Undecided

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June 24, 2014, 12:08:50 AM
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What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

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June 24, 2014, 12:18:27 AM
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I noticed that investments are going down with a crazy speed, i guess something is fishy here, lucky i did withdraw what i had left there on time.

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June 24, 2014, 12:31:13 AM
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Today has been a sad day.. Thanks for everything Doog! Can't wait for you to re open Smiley

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June 24, 2014, 01:19:28 AM
Last edit: June 24, 2014, 01:31:17 AM by freedomno1
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Better safe than sorry it seems. The sums of money involved here are huge, and all credit to doog taking the cautious approach. Once the dust settles and things turn out not to be as bad as first thought I'm sure people will re-invest and betting will resume.

Same I appreciate the caution and am glad my coins are returned safely and not seized my trust is well placed
I hope the legal dust settles and re-investing and betting will resume sooner than later
Back to the vault for now
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June 24, 2014, 01:45:01 AM
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What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

The myth that where your servers are has fuck all to do with how your business is regulated by your home country needs to die. Server location is not relevant in any way.
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June 24, 2014, 02:11:07 AM
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What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

The myth that where your servers are has fuck all to do with how your business is regulated by your home country needs to die. Server location is not relevant in any way.

So.... what's the issue?

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June 24, 2014, 02:13:11 AM
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I think you need to read the last few pages BetMoose.
tl;dr: canada, regulations, btc not longer playmoney
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June 24, 2014, 03:44:06 AM
Last edit: June 24, 2014, 05:28:56 AM by Swordsoffreedom
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The end of an era for now in safe bitcoin gambling
Kudos to Dooglus and Just-Dice and Deb at Doge-Dice
For their transparency and good betting system Smiley
Even with a 1% house edge it still made a killing and its as close as you could get to a truly honest and fair casino
No higher edge / Building costs like a normal casino

Let the phoenix of Bitcoin gambling rise up again sooner than later
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June 24, 2014, 05:12:12 AM
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I read the whole thing. I'm pretty certain the new law applies to fiat <-> BTC 'dealings' only. You're jumping into panic mode thinking one nation can govern the world wide web, and currencies outside of their control. JD was not hosted in canada and was not 'targeting' Canadians, what's the logic for applying this to all of bitcoin everywhere in the world?

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June 24, 2014, 05:12:38 AM
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The end of an era

Gonna stop you right there and cross my fingers. Nowhere did doog say "I'm quitting the business forever and shutting down the site." It's just a hiatus.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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June 24, 2014, 05:28:12 AM
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The end of an era

Gonna stop you right there and cross my fingers. Nowhere did doog say "I'm quitting the business forever and shutting down the site." It's just a hiatus.

Alright the end of an era FOR NOW Smiley
Till another day when just-dice rises from the ashes and comes back to life
Let this be a short hiatus then hopefully less than one or two seasons
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June 24, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
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Kinda a bummer... When I first heard about Just-Dice having to shut it's doors, I thought "oh great, now I won't get my investment back."
Well that wasn't true. After sending a quick email to the support team and a quick withdraw, everything went smooth.

It's nice to see a Bitcoin gambling related site with so much honesty & sincerity. The community needs more like them!

Good luck guys!
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