Ex-Husband- Dicorce-Bitcoin

[MeGuessWhat]

Hi guys
I am a foreigner living in Berlin. I married a German person who did really evil to me and now I need help. Before we left my country I gave him money and he bought 10 bitcoins for me. He said I should keep it for the future.
Time passed and after 11 months after the marriage he asked for the divorce. By that time I was still unamployed learning the language. He left the house one month later saying he would still pay the rent and assist me. I continue trying to look for a job. He was oblyged by law to give me the assistance for that I still havent the job to pay my bills.
What he did: stopped paying the rent and the bills and did not let me know, only comunicate dmy lawyers when I had a debt of almost 2.000 euros. He hid his income and give me an assitance of something like 400 euros. What I earn makes 500 euros. He doesnt want to help anymore, I have the rent, all the bills to pay, and I am trying to find a roomate asap.
I am thinking of sueing him, but he says he shouldnt even be helping me in the first place because I have 10 bitcoins that now might count like 10.000 euros and I should just use them.
But I didnt made this investiment for this. I never made a trade (Im a Holder) so I would like to know what to do in this case. Can my bitcoins count against me?
Thank you

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[darkangel11]

What you owned before the marriage is yours only. You sent him money before going to live with him in Germany, so if you can prove it (e.g. have a receipt) the coins belong to you. If you got no proof, he could actually sue you and say those bitcoins are his property, because he paid with his own money.
Whether you can act as a poor person is another matter. If you sue him, he will say that you have enough money to sustain yourself without his help, and he's acting in good faith (sending you €400).

[CryptoBry]

I am not so sure of this but if your country is already recognizing Bitcoin as a form of an asset then maybe he can use the Bitcoin. Now, if Bitcoin is not yet that recognized by the government, in my opinion, Bitcoin just means nothing as far as the law is concerned. Please check with people who know more about the divorce law.

[Bitware]

Hi guys
I am a foreigner living in Berlin. I married a German person who did really evil to me and now I need help. Before we left my country I gave him money and he bought 10 bitcoins for me. He said I should keep it for the future.
Time passed and after 11 months after the marriage he asked for the divorce. By that time I was still unamployed learning the language. He left the house one month later saying he would still pay the rent and assist me. I continue trying to look for a job. He was oblyged by law to give me the assistance for that I still havent the job to pay my bills.
What he did: stopped paying the rent and the bills and did not let me know, only comunicate dmy lawyers when I had a debt of almost 2.000 euros. He hid his income and give me an assitance of something like 400 euros. What I earn makes 500 euros. He doesnt want to help anymore, I have the rent, all the bills to pay, and I am trying to find a roomate asap.
I am thinking of sueing him, but he says he shouldnt even be helping me in the first place because I have 10 bitcoins that now might count like 10.000 euros and I should just use them.
But I didnt made this investiment for this. I never made a trade (Im a Holder) so I would like to know what to do in this case.

Go get a job or a couple jobs. Any jobs. You should work any and every job until you find the right job.

If you cannot afford your bills, then lower your quality of life, move to a cheaper apartment and cut all expenses not needed for your survival.

He has no obligation to pay for pussy he no longer has-or-wants access to.

You are a independent, strong and empowered woman and you are equal under the law, so start acting like it and go earn your way.

If you still cannot manage to work hard enough to pay for your survival and quality of life, then spend your Bitcoins as needed.

Why should a man pay for you when you have 10.000 euros in Bitcoins?

The man owes you nothing. Go take care of yourself.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

Yes

[NeuroticFish]

Hi guys
I am a foreigner living in Berlin. I married a German person who did really evil to me and now I need help. Before we left my country I gave him money and he bought 10 bitcoins for me. He said I should keep it for the future.
Time passed and after 11 months after the marriage he asked for the divorce. By that time I was still unamployed learning the language. He left the house one month later saying he would still pay the rent and assist me. I continue trying to look for a job. He was oblyged by law to give me the assistance for that I still havent the job to pay my bills.
What he did: stopped paying the rent and the bills and did not let me know, only comunicate dmy lawyers when I had a debt of almost 2.000 euros. He hid his income and give me an assitance of something like 400 euros. What I earn makes 500 euros. He doesnt want to help anymore, I have the rent, all the bills to pay, and I am trying to find a roomate asap.
I am thinking of sueing him, but he says he shouldnt even be helping me in the first place because I have 10 bitcoins that now might count like 10.000 euros and I should just use them.
But I didnt made this investiment for this. I never made a trade (Im a Holder) so I would like to know what to do in this case. Can my bitcoins count against me?
Thank you

1. Keep your private safe, make sure nobody has access to it (and never had). If it's the case, better move them somewhere safer (new wallet).
2. Get a job and start earning money. You just want to make others' life more miserable for selfish reasons? If he didn't spend your Bitcoin yet, he was not that evil. Get your life on track, think on the future and move on. It'll be best for everybody, really.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

The times are changing. The laws are changing. A lawsuit takes time. So there's no good answer for this.


As I said. Move on. Think on the future. Get your life (and job) in order and, if you'll have the Bitcoins safe, they'll be a great bonus.

Edit: and 10BTC is around 20000 EUR right now, just to be correct on the numbers; just careful, if you want to cash in, you may have to declare that and pay some income tax on them.

[tiggytomb]

Why not use some of your 10 bitcoins to keep you going until you can find a job and get yourself back on your feet, like you said they are worth in excess of €10k I don't see any reason for you to be struggling when you have access to these funds.

[BTCwoker]

actually, I am confused about it. if bitcoin has worth in that country as an asset then he has the option to use bitcoin.

[veleten]

if the coins he bought for you had been yours before the marriage and you can prove it
then you have nothing to worry about
besides there is no law regulating cryptocurrency usage in Germany as far as I know
ten coins is around 27.000 euros now,by the way
you could sell one and hire a divorce lawyer

[olushakes]

In my own opinion, I think the reason why he avoid the responsibility is because of the fact that he knows the value of the btc you have with you which to me is enough to start a living. I don't know the cost of living in Germany, because over here its enough to start a new life in which I suggest you should got through with and avoid the legal battle so far you have access to cash out those coins then go for it. Maybe part sale because you invest for the future and this is the future in which you investment could bail you out.

[lukew]

Go get a job or a couple jobs. Any jobs. You should work any and every job until you find the right job.

If you cannot afford your bills, then lower your quality of life, move to a cheaper apartment and cut all expenses not needed for your survival.

He has no obligation to pay for pussy he no longer has-or-wants access to.

You are a independent, strong and empowered woman and you are equal under the law, so start acting like it and go earn your way.

If you still cannot manage to work hard enough to pay for your survival and quality of life, then spend your Bitcoins as needed.

Why should a man pay for you when you have 10.000 euros in Bitcoins?

The man owes you nothing. Go take care of yourself.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

Yes

What a cunt you are. Why indeed should a man not adhere to the binding agreement that is marriage. It's not like he agreed to it or anything.

"No obligation to pay for pussy", says a lot about you really.

[botany]

Hi guys
I am a foreigner living in Berlin. I married a German person who did really evil to me and now I need help. Before we left my country I gave him money and he bought 10 bitcoins for me. He said I should keep it for the future.
Time passed and after 11 months after the marriage he asked for the divorce. By that time I was still unamployed learning the language. He left the house one month later saying he would still pay the rent and assist me. I continue trying to look for a job. He was oblyged by law to give me the assistance for that I still havent the job to pay my bills.
What he did: stopped paying the rent and the bills and did not let me know, only comunicate dmy lawyers when I had a debt of almost 2.000 euros. He hid his income and give me an assitance of something like 400 euros. What I earn makes 500 euros. He doesnt want to help anymore, I have the rent, all the bills to pay, and I am trying to find a roomate asap.
I am thinking of sueing him, but he says he shouldnt even be helping me in the first place because I have 10 bitcoins that now might count like 10.000 euros and I should just use them.
But I didnt made this investiment for this. I never made a trade (Im a Holder) so I would like to know what to do in this case. Can my bitcoins count against me?
Thank you

If he was obliged by law to give you assistance for rent, it might make sense to sue him on that count first. That is far easier than showing that you gave him money with which he bought bitcoins and has absconded with them.

[jpoker272727]

The best is, you need to consult a lawyer who is well versed in the laws of German divorce.
As you are not from Germany basically and it appears you have not yet got citizenship yet, you can contact your country's embassy; they might guide you to proper legal aid.

[Bitware]

Go get a job or a couple jobs. Any jobs. You should work any and every job until you find the right job.

If you cannot afford your bills, then lower your quality of life, move to a cheaper apartment and cut all expenses not needed for your survival.

He has no obligation to pay for pussy he no longer has-or-wants access to.

You are a independent, strong and empowered woman and you are equal under the law, so start acting like it and go earn your way.

If you still cannot manage to work hard enough to pay for your survival and quality of life, then spend your Bitcoins as needed.

Why should a man pay for you when you have 10.000 euros in Bitcoins?

The man owes you nothing. Go take care of yourself.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

Yes

What a cunt you are. Why indeed should a man not adhere to the binding agreement that is marriage. It's not like he agreed to it or anything.

"No obligation to pay for pussy", says a lot about you really.

Marriage is not a binding agreement anylonger. The agreement used to be to stick together through all, "in sickness and in health, through good time and bad, for richer and poorer, to love, honor and obey; until death do they part."

It's no longer that binding agreement. It has transformed into a juicy deal for women and a shitty deal for men. Men have absolutely no benefits from marriage anymore. Legal state-sanctioned marriage is a loaded gun pointed at every mans head... all the wife needs is the whimsy and emotion to pull the trigger, and they routinely pull those triggers at rated exponential to those of men to take everything he has every worked for and love away from him to benefit the State and women.

You sound like you believe that men solely exist to give women money and whatever else they want and to serve their every need and desire regardless of his own. I am correcting the fallacy.

[lukew]

Marriage is not a binding agreement anylonger. The agreement used to be to stick together through all, "in sickness and in health, through good time and bad, for richer and poorer, to love, honor and obey; until death do they part."

It's no longer that binding agreement. It has transformed into a juicy deal for women and a shitty deal for men. Men have absolutely no benefits from marriage anymore. Legal state-sanctioned marriage is a loaded gun pointed at every mans head... all the wife needs is the whimsy and emotion to pull the trigger, and they routinely pull those triggers at rated exponential to those of men to take everything he has every worked for and love away from him to benefit the State and women.

You sound like you believe that men solely exist to give women money and whatever else they want and to serve their every need and desire regardless of his own. I am correcting the fallacy.

You sound like you believe that women are nothing but "pussy" that men pay for. Enough said.

[GreenBits]

Marriage is not a binding agreement anylonger. The agreement used to be to stick together through all, "in sickness and in health, through good time and bad, for richer and poorer, to love, honor and obey; until death do they part."

It's no longer that binding agreement. It has transformed into a juicy deal for women and a shitty deal for men. Men have absolutely no benefits from marriage anymore. Legal state-sanctioned marriage is a loaded gun pointed at every mans head... all the wife needs is the whimsy and emotion to pull the trigger, and they routinely pull those triggers at rated exponential to those of men to take everything he has every worked for and love away from him to benefit the State and women.

You sound like you believe that men solely exist to give women money and whatever else they want and to serve their every need and desire regardless of his own. I am correcting the fallacy.

You sound like you believe that women are nothing but "pussy" that men pay for. Enough said.

its an odd vibe on this forum toward females ill say that and move on...

Hi guys
I am a foreigner living in Berlin. I married a German person who did really evil to me and now I need help. Before we left my country I gave him money and he bought 10 bitcoins for me. He said I should keep it for the future.
Time passed and after 11 months after the marriage he asked for the divorce. By that time I was still unamployed learning the language. He left the house one month later saying he would still pay the rent and assist me. I continue trying to look for a job. He was oblyged by law to give me the assistance for that I still havent the job to pay my bills.
What he did: stopped paying the rent and the bills and did not let me know, only comunicate dmy lawyers when I had a debt of almost 2.000 euros. He hid his income and give me an assitance of something like 400 euros. What I earn makes 500 euros. He doesnt want to help anymore, I have the rent, all the bills to pay, and I am trying to find a roomate asap.
I am thinking of sueing him, but he says he shouldnt even be helping me in the first place because I have 10 bitcoins that now might count like 10.000 euros and I should just use them.
But I didnt made this investiment for this. I never made a trade (Im a Holder) so I would like to know what to do in this case. Can my bitcoins count against me?
Thank you

convert your bitcoin to fiat, if you are going to be living off of your coin, better to escape the volatility. you wont be able to make long term budgetary plans with bitcoin given how the price changes, and you arent a trader or speculator. convert the value to something you can use.

go to your embassy, if you can, and tell them how your situation has changed. someone should assist you, or point you in the right direction.

Bring down your expenses to an absolute minimum. you dont know how long you need to last with no income til you land a job

and finally, take a deep breath you are gonna be cool, just be smart. you have a basis of savings; if you play this right you can win this game.

Good luck and God bless!

[CryptoBoomers]

Go get a job or a couple jobs. Any jobs. You should work any and every job until you find the right job.

If you cannot afford your bills, then lower your quality of life, move to a cheaper apartment and cut all expenses not needed for your survival.

He has no obligation to pay for pussy he no longer has-or-wants access to.

You are a independent, strong and empowered woman and you are equal under the law, so start acting like it and go earn your way.

If you still cannot manage to work hard enough to pay for your survival and quality of life, then spend your Bitcoins as needed.

Why should a man pay for you when you have 10.000 euros in Bitcoins?

The man owes you nothing. Go take care of yourself.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

Yes

What a cunt you are. Why indeed should a man not adhere to the binding agreement that is marriage. It's not like he agreed to it or anything.

"No obligation to pay for pussy", says a lot about you really.

Marriage is not a binding agreement anylonger. The agreement used to be to stick together through all, "in sickness and in health, through good time and bad, for richer and poorer, to love, honor and obey; until death do they part."

It's no longer that binding agreement. It has transformed into a juicy deal for women and a shitty deal for men. Men have absolutely no benefits from marriage anymore. Legal state-sanctioned marriage is a loaded gun pointed at every mans head... all the wife needs is the whimsy and emotion to pull the trigger, and they routinely pull those triggers at rated exponential to those of men to take everything he has every worked for and love away from him to benefit the State and women.

You sound like you believe that men solely exist to give women money and whatever else they want and to serve their every need and desire regardless of his own. I am correcting the fallacy.

Though it's harsh, this is the way most MGTOW think, and it's a response to 4th wave entitlement/feminism. Sounds like your ex free'd you by giving you life changing information vs making things rough, be humble and thankful imo, he could come after half your btc in a divorce.

[cpfreeplz]

Go get a job or a couple jobs. Any jobs. You should work any and every job until you find the right job.

If you cannot afford your bills, then lower your quality of life, move to a cheaper apartment and cut all expenses not needed for your survival.

He has no obligation to pay for pussy he no longer has-or-wants access to.

You are a independent, strong and empowered woman and you are equal under the law, so start acting like it and go earn your way.

If you still cannot manage to work hard enough to pay for your survival and quality of life, then spend your Bitcoins as needed.

Why should a man pay for you when you have 10.000 euros in Bitcoins?

The man owes you nothing. Go take care of yourself.

Can my bitcoins count against me?

Yes

What a cunt you are. Why indeed should a man not adhere to the binding agreement that is marriage. It's not like he agreed to it or anything.

"No obligation to pay for pussy", says a lot about you really.

Marriage is not a binding agreement anylonger. The agreement used to be to stick together through all, "in sickness and in health, through good time and bad, for richer and poorer, to love, honor and obey; until death do they part."

It's no longer that binding agreement. It has transformed into a juicy deal for women and a shitty deal for men. Men have absolutely no benefits from marriage anymore. Legal state-sanctioned marriage is a loaded gun pointed at every mans head... all the wife needs is the whimsy and emotion to pull the trigger, and they routinely pull those triggers at rated exponential to those of men to take everything he has every worked for and love away from him to benefit the State and women.

You sound like you believe that men solely exist to give women money and whatever else they want and to serve their every need and desire regardless of his own. I am correcting the fallacy.

You're assuming this is a woman typing because they have a husband, but what if it's a homosexual man? I bet you'd feel pretty stupid right? A big rant about why you hate your ex for nothing lol.

I'm not from Germany and don't have a clue of the laws but it would sound to me like he's entitled to 5 bitcoins. I'd just keep your mouth shut before you screw yourself over.

[Maheshkumar_Hrangkhawl]

I'm not from Germany and don't have a clue of the laws but it would sound to me like he's entitled to 5 bitcoins. I'd just keep your mouth shut before you screw yourself over.

The above user is 100% right. 10 Bitcoins are now worth over 22,000 Euros. If you go for a lawsuit, then you may have to give half of that amount to him. If I were in your place, I'd keep my mouth shut.

[Darklinkz]

I'm not from Germany and don't have a clue of the laws but it would sound to me like he's entitled to 5 bitcoins. I'd just keep your mouth shut before you screw yourself over.

The above user is 100% right. 10 Bitcoins are now worth over 22,000 Euros. If you go for a lawsuit, then you may have to give half of that amount to him. If I were in your place, I'd keep my mouth shut.

I'll do the same. Don't ever contact your ex-husband because what he gave you is more than enough to pay your rent and bills. You won't also have to worry if you haven't still find a job until today with that amount.