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[bible_pay]

If anyone is wondering how to become a Christian healer, or wondering if all these diary entries about healing people are true:
I can assure they are all 100% true.  You can search for 'Tom Loud miracle healing' videos on youtube; he is basically the second (internet) person I learned this from (after meeting Torbens group and going out with them at his kickstart), and Tom's style seems to work for me the best.

Tom Loud is *exactly* the way I approach people, pray for people, and I see the exact same results as him.

He has a logical and methodical approach, and that seems to be compatible with my personality.  Other people might like Todd White, if you are a Marine, or Torben Sondergaard if you have that European approach, etc.

We grew someone's leg out last week.

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[jsheets1970]

Anyone know if leopool is down??

[sunk818]

Rob and anyone else reading --

I've been pondering for a few weeks and I'm convicted to help poor children in the two charities CameroonONE and Kairos with holiday gifts & toys. I'm sure the kids need food & rice, but what kid wouldn't want to be shown they matter and being doted over by strangers? How can we reach the BBP community and/or general crypto community to act? I emailed Todd @ CameroonOne and Andrew @ Kairos and they are both open to the idea. They already do some sort gift giving, but I think we can be involved to enhance the giving. They can take proceeds and from their respective countries purchase gifts from the local businesses.

I wanted to include a "card", but seeing how we are from all over the world, does a digital card makes more sense? Perhaps a note in donator's native language, translation into English, and destination country.

What do you think? Comments? Thoughts? Suggestions for action items, or next steps?

Since they are primarily in Africa and the Philipines the only idea I have is asking Todd and Andy if they can ask the local pastor if they will buy Christmas cards and let us give them a native currency gift in cash - like a $10 gift for example for the card.  The local pastor might be able to sign them for us and stuff them.

Im willing to chip in for at least 20 kids.

I spoke to Todd @ C1 and Andrew @ Kairos.

CameroonONE: 49 kids @ $5-10 each for the holiday gift/toy/party. $245 to $490

Kairos: 20 kids @ $7 each. So far they've raised $20, so need $120 to reach the target. That's for gifts and a fun party.

Total to raise is $365 USD. At current BBP prices, that is about 1.7M BBP.

[bible_pay]

Rob and anyone else reading --

I've been pondering for a few weeks and I'm convicted to help poor children in the two charities CameroonONE and Kairos with holiday gifts & toys. I'm sure the kids need food & rice, but what kid wouldn't want to be shown they matter and being doted over by strangers? How can we reach the BBP community and/or general crypto community to act? I emailed Todd @ CameroonOne and Andrew @ Kairos and they are both open to the idea. They already do some sort gift giving, but I think we can be involved to enhance the giving. They can take proceeds and from their respective countries purchase gifts from the local businesses.

I wanted to include a "card", but seeing how we are from all over the world, does a digital card makes more sense? Perhaps a note in donator's native language, translation into English, and destination country.

What do you think? Comments? Thoughts? Suggestions for action items, or next steps?

Since they are primarily in Africa and the Philipines the only idea I have is asking Todd and Andy if they can ask the local pastor if they will buy Christmas cards and let us give them a native currency gift in cash - like a $10 gift for example for the card.  The local pastor might be able to sign them for us and stuff them.

Im willing to chip in for at least 20 kids.

I spoke to Todd @ C1 and Andrew @ Kairos.

CameroonONE: 49 kids @ $5-10 each for the holiday gift/toy/party. $245 to $490

Kairos: 20 kids @ $7 each. So far they've raised $20, so need $120 to reach the target. That's for gifts and a fun party.

Total to raise is $365 USD. At current BBP prices, that is about 1.7M BBP.

I'll put in 1.1 million!

[sunk818]

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41764_offset,0#613511

we missed the thor challenge 2019 for BOINC crunchers.

OByte and Gridcoin were the two top crunchers.

When BiblePay was involved, 616 did a great job crunching. It was very difficult to match the work units processed by OByte team. Still, it was good marketing for BiblePay to be in the top 5.

[shorty34]

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41764_offset,0#613511

we missed the thor challenge 2019 for BOINC crunchers.

OByte and Gridcoin were the two top crunchers.

When BiblePay was involved, 616 did a great job crunching. It was very difficult to match the work units processed by OByte team. Still, it was good marketing for BiblePay to be in the top 5.

I agree it is good marketing, at least in the scientific community, when your team is among top 3.

I am not sure that would happen to BiblePay, if team Gridcoin is whitelisted under PoDC 2.0. Gridcoiners will simply stake to get BBP, and WCG points will go to team GRC.

[jsheets1970]

Leopool is down again. Stratum unable to connect.

[sunk818]

My pool (http://sunpool.whitewalr.us  http://5.135.183.202) had a payment issue last night and paid out over 500k BBP in two hours to various miners by mistake. The server hosting the redis memory database ran out of memory and kept sending the same payment repeatedly thinking it was not processed. I recognize it was my fault for having a bigger reserve than necessary and setting payment to go out so frequently. The wallet has been completely drained. There's nothing I can do other than plead for you to return the funds. If you could return it back to BLENRYgVPwzfsrJoJNbvC537qMHsCVyeFU payment, I would appreciate it.

Payment was made repeated to the following miners.

special thanks to apo2gen for pointing out the pool issue.

Start: 2019-11-22 10:50:55 , block 159037
End: 2019-11-22 12:52:24, block 159052

BEPRQRHbcHtmHR3YH1CVQiehxL1dy6Tuzv
B4xjCsHHGxCyBGTrmhx1z4s2iV66vx6NMS
BR4w1LoNYjQxsnvzdD1iYPeWbHYThP2pHq
BHymkLjpwAmJa51DKd716SHWvgpx5wondx
BT2RxPRcdYWAfbuLTMgQZLZFA26NwdXMjK
BHcugJRLBYoeYZK6wbhERHKvP5xdXY2Ay1

God Bless.

[sunk818]

Rob or anyone else knowledgeable about wallets...

 for the bounty proposal I made -- https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=464.0 -- I accidentally used a wallet address in main wallet. As I mentioned not wanting to co-mingle the funds, do you know how I can transfer the private key to a new wallet? (Delete in current, and import to a new wallet.dat). I'm worried I have all these CPK, CameroonONE, Healing, etc campaigns registered that if import all the privkeys besides what the bounty address, that would cause more issues than not.

Alternative would be to transfer funds to a new isolated wallet address, but I'd lose the bounty address I said I would use.

Thoughts?

[MIP]

Rob or anyone else knowledgeable about wallets...

 for the bounty proposal I made -- https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=464.0 -- I accidentally used a wallet address in main wallet. As I mentioned not wanting to co-mingle the funds, do you know how I can transfer the private key to a new wallet? (Delete in current, and import to a new wallet.dat). I'm worried I have all these CPK, CameroonONE, Healing, etc campaigns registered that if import all the privkeys besides what the bounty address, that would cause more issues than not.

Alternative would be to transfer funds to a new isolated wallet address, but I'd lose the bounty address I said I would use.

Thoughts?

Afaik you can't delete an address, but you can export a priv key and import it in a new wallet.

so basically a "wallet split" can only be made starting 2 new wallets, and move each address/privkey one by one from the old wallet to each of the 2 new ones.

[bible_pay]

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41764_offset,0#613511

we missed the thor challenge 2019 for BOINC crunchers.

OByte and Gridcoin were the two top crunchers.

When BiblePay was involved, 616 did a great job crunching. It was very difficult to match the work units processed by OByte team. Still, it was good marketing for BiblePay to be in the top 5.

I agree it is good marketing, at least in the scientific community, when your team is among top 3.

I am not sure that would happen to BiblePay, if team Gridcoin is whitelisted under PoDC 2.0. Gridcoiners will simply stake to get BBP, and WCG points will go to team GRC.

Thanks, then maybe the community should ultimately decide this.
I think we made a good decision in giving the unbanked the ability to mine in PODC 2.0 up to 250 rac, before posting collateral.  This also allows a newbie to build up some rewards, while only spending 1 bbp to get started (for the association fee).

However, I haven't heard back from Gridcoin, with any particular quid-pro-quo reward for BBP.  James mentioned that Gridcoin will be allowing any team to earn rewards. 
What would BBP get in return for whitelisting Gridcoin? 

I feel that we should put this up to a community vote soon.

[bible_pay]

Rob or anyone else knowledgeable about wallets...

 for the bounty proposal I made -- https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=464.0 -- I accidentally used a wallet address in main wallet. As I mentioned not wanting to co-mingle the funds, do you know how I can transfer the private key to a new wallet? (Delete in current, and import to a new wallet.dat). I'm worried I have all these CPK, CameroonONE, Healing, etc campaigns registered that if import all the privkeys besides what the bounty address, that would cause more issues than not.

Alternative would be to transfer funds to a new isolated wallet address, but I'd lose the bounty address I said I would use.

Thoughts?

Afaik you can't delete an address, but you can export a priv key and import it in a new wallet.

so basically a "wallet split" can only be made starting 2 new wallets, and move each address/privkey one by one from the old wallet to each of the 2 new ones.

Right, you can't delete a key out of your wallet, but you can start two brand new wallet.dats, then in Wallet A you type 'dumpprivkey public_key' (one time for each key you want to save).  Then type 'importprivkey priv_key' into wallet B, and for the other key into wallet C.  Then spend any addl funds in A to B & C.  Then delete the wallet.dat for wallet A.

Then start a new Wallet A.  Then send the funds back to yourself that are yours for wallet A.  

(Or if you dont want to send the funds temporarily from A you can send them to wallet D then D back to A). Etc.

[bible_pay]

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41764_offset,0#613511

we missed the thor challenge 2019 for BOINC crunchers.

OByte and Gridcoin were the two top crunchers.

When BiblePay was involved, 616 did a great job crunching. It was very difficult to match the work units processed by OByte team. Still, it was good marketing for BiblePay to be in the top 5.

I agree it is good marketing, at least in the scientific community, when your team is among top 3.

I am not sure that would happen to BiblePay, if team Gridcoin is whitelisted under PoDC 2.0. Gridcoiners will simply stake to get BBP, and WCG points will go to team GRC.

********************** TEAM REQUIREMENTS POLL **********************************

Everyone please vote!

https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=476.new#new


********************** TEAM REQUIREMENTS POLL **********************************

[sunk818]

What would BBP get in return for whitelisting Gridcoin? 

I feel that we should put this up to a community vote soon.

I look at the recent stats.

grcpool-1 240,013 RAC for WCG ^1.3 = 9869728.24683 BBP
grcpool-2 243,870 RAC for WCG ^1.3 = 10076411.4274 BBP
grcpool-3 310,788 RAC for WCG ^1.3 = 13810312.7629 BBP

33.7M BBP would need to be staked. I don't think it is a meaningful enough quantity to affect the exchange market either way.

I read GRC with their next mandatory (called FERN) will whitelist all teams.  I don't see any benefit to BBP whitelisting any teams then. Miners can decide if they want to join team BBP or join team OByte to double dip GRC. GRC is a good group with lots of BOINC projects. I think it makes sense for them to whitelist any team. BiblePay is more specific in its focus. I think we benefit by having more people on Team BiblePay and it is a sorely needed marketing angle.

[bible_pay]

(I've been told by Dash that BBP is struggling to find its identity)

Found it, I meant to follow up on this long ago

Yeah, that was Chris, but now that we have PODC and DSQL I think we have found most of our identity, but, I think we still need a community prayer room, Pay to preach, maybe a proof-of-preaching feature, unbanked cancer mining and tithing, and the video voting room etc.

But to expand on this, I do agree we still need to end up with an actual stable brand in the future.  The transition from DarkCoin to Dash, was actually missed by hackers (who didnt know much about business), but caught by marketing firms and the general public.  They went from launching as a clone of bitcoin with privacy then governance & masternodes bolted on (but clearly to appeal to the original hacking flavors of litecoin, bitcoin, and 'dark'coin) and found their identity when they decided they would be 'digital cash', with a catchier name of Dash, and created a 'brand'.  (Their use case is now digital-cash, widely accepted form of payment that is fast to receive).

I agree that to do that with BiblePay, we need to find a (different) and very solid use case and create a boilerplate message, be known for that use case, and launch that particular brand.  The problem with us right now is we cant really call ourselves 'the go-to wallet for Christians' because a Dash clone does not really offer anyone an alternative to Dash, or to bitcoin.  We are a 'cool novelty toy' for hackers who want to experiment with PODC, and for those lost souls who dont know what sin is (who may want to figure out how did we embed the list of sins and the KJV bible into the cryptocurrency source code and why)?  This is really a community for night time tinkerers.

So what still needs to happen is we need to make a spreadsheet with all of our heavy-duty goals.  Then we need to stress test each one that we believe makes us a top 10 coin with that single use-case message being tested by the user.  What really makes BBP useful that others dont have.  Then we need to become that niche, and make that our boilerplate and our brand logo.  I'm not *against* eventually rebranding, as long as the mantra is:  We accept everyone from all walks of life, as everyone is a sinner, but when they get around us we tend to share the gospel of Jesus.  (This is what Jesus would want anyway, as he ate and drank with sinners to expose them to the Kingdom). 

Another words, we could potentially move as dash did from Darkcoin to DashPay, from BiblePay to N.  But all of this talk should be delayed until we fulfill the above paragraphs.

So in the mean time what the community can do is try to think of something that really makes us special, the goto wallet for Christians, but why?  An embedded prayer room alone wont cut it.  Something major.  We have a lot of good ideas but what it boils down to is we have to evaluate use cases that actually facilitate the use of the digital coins.  A lot of the ideas in the past have been related to just mining, or development, or gospel features in the database, but not completlely tied back to use of each token.  I think the killer use case will involve the use of the token.  With Ethereum for instance, their gas fee became the marketplace to grow thousands of new subtokens all requiring more gas.  So their killer feature is smart contracts requiring the spending of the gas.  This sort of gives an idea where Im going with this; the feature must not only be useful but use our currency.

[bible_pay]

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41764_offset,0#613511

we missed the thor challenge 2019 for BOINC crunchers.

OByte and Gridcoin were the two top crunchers.

When BiblePay was involved, 616 did a great job crunching. It was very difficult to match the work units processed by OByte team. Still, it was good marketing for BiblePay to be in the top 5.

I agree it is good marketing, at least in the scientific community, when your team is among top 3.

I am not sure that would happen to BiblePay, if team Gridcoin is whitelisted under PoDC 2.0. Gridcoiners will simply stake to get BBP, and WCG points will go to team GRC.

********************** TEAM REQUIREMENTS POLL **********************************

Everyone please vote!

https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=476.new#new


********************** TEAM REQUIREMENTS POLL **********************************

All, the Team requirements poll has been modified to include Talismans idea, therefore it was restarted.


Will you all please re-vote?

[sunk818]

I agree that to do that with BiblePay, we need to find a (different) and very solid use case and create a boilerplate message, be known for that use case, and launch that particular brand.  The problem with us right now is we cant really call ourselves 'the go-to wallet for Christians' because a Dash clone does not really offer anyone an alternative to Dash, or to bitcoin.

Let's forget use-case for a minute and just talk missional values. What purpose do you want this coin to have? When you're on your deathbed, thinking back what do you want to say BiblePay did for people around the world?

[sunk818]

How do I solo mine with BiblePay?
https://whitewalr.us/2019/solo-mine-biblepay.html

[Rabinovitch]

Is there any bootstrap archive available for downloading?

[inblue]

Is there any bootstrap archive available for downloading?

No because it's not needed currently, BiblePay is one of the fastest syncing coins, IIRC it'll only take you 10 minutes or so. So feel free to just download the wallet from biblepay.org and run it.