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April 05, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
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The Network hash exploded, too. Wow.
And my pool now has 500 active miners. One week ago it had 100 miners.

These numbers are looking a bit strange, I don't see such a huge grows in the forums or anywhere else. What might be the reason for this "silent" grows? Smiley

I suspect people who cannot earn w/  PODC are trying to mine POBH to get started?

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April 05, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
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POW Diff up to 11920, I havent seen this level in a long time.  I think I will add a second axis to the pools difficulty report to plot both.

The Network hash exploded, too. Wow.
And my pool now has 500 active miners. One week ago it had 100 miners.

These numbers are looking a bit strange, I don't see such a huge grows in the forums or anywhere else. What might be the reason for this "silent" grows? Smiley

Other than getting 25% more popular I think most of it has to do with everyone who used to heat mine finally has a CPID now, thats all I can hypothesize.


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April 05, 2018, 01:45:22 PM
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The main pool hurts my eyes now!

I personally prefer the old black/grey theme over this Smiley


Its going to have 3 themes available in Account settings:  Biblepay, Light, and Dark (it would be hilarious if I called them ISIS and Christian but I wont do that) anyway Im not sure how many days that will take to finish.


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April 05, 2018, 02:54:53 PM
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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.
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April 05, 2018, 03:06:45 PM
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The main pool hurts my eyes now!

I personally prefer the old black/grey theme over this Smiley


Its going to have 3 themes available in Account settings:  Biblepay, Light, and Dark (it would be hilarious if I called them ISIS and Christian but I wont do that) anyway Im not sure how many days that will take to finish.



Ok now we have 2 themes: Biblepay and Dark, and the theme is working in Edge again.

However to use the theme please follow these instructions:

Log In
Go to Account Settings
Change your Theme
Save the Record
Log Out
Log In
Press Ctrl-F5

In a couple months we will ask a Dev to automatically refresh the page so you wont be required to go through the above steps.


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April 05, 2018, 03:08:56 PM
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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.


In my case I have a couple 6 core servers, one running WCG @ 100% utilization one running RAH @ 100% utilization.   Although we probably will need at least a 14 day baseline, let me check on them and see how they compare ...


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April 05, 2018, 03:19:58 PM
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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.


In my case I have a couple 6 core servers, one running WCG @ 100% utilization one running RAH @ 100% utilization.   Although we probably will need at least a 14 day baseline, let me check on them and see how they compare ...




So far the RAH server has 3000 RAC and the WCG server has 1000 WCG RAC, meaning WCG seems to be 3.0 * harder than RAH, but Id like to leave it run longer until both graphs taper off horizontally right now they are both climbing still.


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April 05, 2018, 03:32:38 PM
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Code:
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No PODC Updates sent the past 4 days, other than the one I sent manually yesterday.

How do I set the PODC Updates to be automated?

Edited: Also does gen= and genproclimit= have to be set to a positive number ... mine is set to 0.
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- Leave controller wallet on 24 hours a day [b]it stays on 24/7 [/b]
- genproclimit=1 (note that we default this to one) [b]changed genproclimit=0 to genproclimit=1[/b]

Check your exec stakebalance, ensure it has enough funds available also... [b]funds are available[/b]

Also, verify a PODC update is going out in your tx list - monitor it until you know its automated. [b]will do[/b]

To manually trigger one: exec podcupdate  See if it sends one or is throwing error. [b]Yes it sent one[/b]

Ensure your wallet is not locked or you have been entering the password on boot. [b]checked it, all ok[/b]

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Answers in bold above.

Also is there a way to verify that PODC Updates are automated other than waiting until they show up in Transactions?
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addnode=node.biblepay.org 
addnode=biblepay.inspect.network 
gen=1 
genproclimit=1

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and remember wallet must be unlocked for automatic podc updates...
on WIN just put the password on walllet start...
on linux use "biblepay-cli -headlesspodcpassword exec podcpasswordlength" after start
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Thank you gentlemen, we'll see how things progress over the next several hours.
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It was probably that genproclimit=0 setting.  We require at least one thread running to send PODC updates Smiley

We do default to 1 when the setting is non-existent, but I believe this setting overrode the default.



Apparently the genproclimit=0 setting was causing the "No automatic PODC Update" problem.

I changed it to genproclimit=1 yesterday, and today I got the first auto PODC Update since setting genproclimit=0 four days ago.

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April 05, 2018, 03:37:13 PM
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Hmmm... on your main controller, if you wait about 4 hours then check the log... look for "PODCUpdate"... see if any error message exists.
Your getmininginfo should show a HPS reading > 0.

Ill see if I can come up with something easy to show that we tried to send them.  Possibly a global variable we increment every time we try to process one (IE TotalPODCUpdates: 3) in getmininginfo, then at least people will know they are on autopilot.

Ill also add a second key something like 'disablepodc=1' for Dave.  Although Dave the utxoooverride=-1 is working for ZNJ...

Yes, I read that and was wondering why it wouldn't work for me. Maybe it's a specialty to the ARMs...
Anyway, don't stress out over it; as I said I created a secondary CPID just for this purpose and associated it with a secondary wallet, which I will copy to the heat miners. Let's see how this works out over the next couple of days. Even if there the bug occurs again I couldn't care less because this CPID is not gonna get alot of BBP anyway (it's only my old trusty T500 crunching some R@H jobs and running that controller wallet). Smiley

Btw: the dark theme on the pool is much more pleasant to the eyes. ;P
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April 05, 2018, 04:14:45 PM
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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.


In my case I have a couple 6 core servers, one running WCG @ 100% utilization one running RAH @ 100% utilization.   Although we probably will need at least a 14 day baseline, let me check on them and see how they compare ...




So far the RAH server has 3000 RAC and the WCG server has 1000 WCG RAC, meaning WCG seems to be 3.0 * harder than RAH, but Id like to leave it run longer until both graphs taper off horizontally right now they are both climbing still.


Makes sense - thanks Rob, I appreciate it. FWIW, I've seen something comparable to 3:1 myself when switching over. Maybe more like 3.25:1 - but I'm only a single data point with not-very-many machines.
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April 05, 2018, 04:33:59 PM
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Wait, I know the problem dude.

Before 1.1.1.7 the wallet was not smart enough to parse negative numbers.  

You need 1.1.1.7 on the 2nd and 3rd miners with 'utxooverride=-1' set, then it will actually interpret the negative number as a number, and then heed the warning not to stake  PODC update...  Yes I think you need Lights update Smiley.

I updated all the heat miners to 1.1.1.8, but unfortunately this didn't change anything. The wallet again sent out the 3 podcupdates for 1/3 of the stakebalance each. For now I stopped them again, I think I will just start BOINCing on a second CPID for this purpose, associate a second wallet with this second CPID and copy this to the heat miners. Positive side-effect: I don't have my main balance staked on permanently unlocked wallets. Wink

this happens to me today one hour before next superblock, automatic podcupdate sent 1/3 of stake balance. i'm on 1.1.1.7 wallet, i have only one wallet, no android, i dont move with coins or so
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April 05, 2018, 04:51:33 PM
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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.


In my case I have a couple 6 core servers, one running WCG @ 100% utilization one running RAH @ 100% utilization.   Although we probably will need at least a 14 day baseline, let me check on them and see how they compare ...




So far the RAH server has 3000 RAC and the WCG server has 1000 WCG RAC, meaning WCG seems to be 3.0 * harder than RAH, but Id like to leave it run longer until both graphs taper off horizontally right now they are both climbing still.


Makes sense - thanks Rob, I appreciate it. FWIW, I've seen something comparable to 3:1 myself when switching over. Maybe more like 3.25:1 - but I'm only a single data point with not-very-many machines.

Did you set up your device profile? My scores are about even for both it seems. The score doesn't match the wgc website score however.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do

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Did you set up your device profile? My scores are about even for both it seems. The score doesn't match the wgc website score however.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do
What do you have yours set to? Happy to try to change it and see the difference...
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Did you set up your device profile? My scores are about even for both it seems. The score doesn't match the wgc website score however.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do
What do you have yours set to? Happy to try to change it and see the difference...

Not sure if it makes a difference but here you go: https://file.io/x85Zsl

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Any more thoughts on adjusting the weighting for WCG credits? I know it might not be a top priority, but since everyone agrees that the difficulty rating is higher, I'm expecting that when we DO make the adjustment, that again many more BBP will be required for full staking, and just want to be prepared.


In my case I have a couple 6 core servers, one running WCG @ 100% utilization one running RAH @ 100% utilization.   Although we probably will need at least a 14 day baseline, let me check on them and see how they compare ...




So far the RAH server has 3000 RAC and the WCG server has 1000 WCG RAC, meaning WCG seems to be 3.0 * harder than RAH, but Id like to leave it run longer until both graphs taper off horizontally right now they are both climbing still.


Makes sense - thanks Rob, I appreciate it. FWIW, I've seen something comparable to 3:1 myself when switching over. Maybe more like 3.25:1 - but I'm only a single data point with not-very-many machines.

Did you set up your device profile? My scores are about even for both it seems. The score doesn't match the wgc website score however.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do

My scores seem about 1/1 also. I have two identical servers running both RAH and WCG, so I don't know if the workload is even, but the RAC they produce for both projects seem in the same ballpark.

I'll assign one to RAH and one to WCG, and report back how that plays out in about a week or so.

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April 05, 2018, 05:23:28 PM
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What causes some entries in the winners list to be duplicated - or rather, for a user to win 2 blocks in a row? I see it from time to time, but right now there seems to be (as a single point in time) an awful lot. Just looking through "masternode winners 100" I see 6 sets of back-to-back same winners:

38802/38803
38796/38797
38781/38782
38724/38725
38714/38715
38699/38700

At first I thought it might be when we find 2 blocks nearly simultaneously. If I subtract 10 blocks from each of these (which makes sense, as the winner list is populated 10 blocks in advance), it looks like block find times are very close SOMETIMES, but not enough to really draw a meaningful conclusion.
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What causes some entries in the winners list to be duplicated - or rather, for a user to win 2 blocks in a row? I see it from time to time, but right now there seems to be (as a single point in time) an awful lot. Just looking through "masternode winners 100" I see 6 sets of back-to-back same winners:

38802/38803
38796/38797
38781/38782
38724/38725
38714/38715
38699/38700

At first I thought it might be when we find 2 blocks nearly simultaneously. If I subtract 10 blocks from each of these (which makes sense, as the winner list is populated 10 blocks in advance), it looks like block find times are very close SOMETIMES, but not enough to really draw a meaningful conclusion.

When the first Sanctuaries came online back in december, almost all payments were back to back. I dived into the Dash documentation back then, but didn't really come a conclusive reason for myself. I have some double-payments from time to time, and it seems that the chance of having those reflect what I would expect by watching other double-payments.

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What causes some entries in the winners list to be duplicated - or rather, for a user to win 2 blocks in a row? I see it from time to time, but right now there seems to be (as a single point in time) an awful lot. Just looking through "masternode winners 100" I see 6 sets of back-to-back same winners:

38802/38803
38796/38797
38781/38782
38724/38725
38714/38715
38699/38700

At first I thought it might be when we find 2 blocks nearly simultaneously. If I subtract 10 blocks from each of these (which makes sense, as the winner list is populated 10 blocks in advance), it looks like block find times are very close SOMETIMES, but not enough to really draw a meaningful conclusion.

When the first Sanctuaries came online back in december, almost all payments were back to back. I dived into the Dash documentation back then, but didn't really come a conclusive reason for myself. I have some double-payments from time to time, and it seems that the chance of having those reflect what I would expect by watching other double-payments.

Yeah, I assume it's reasonably balanced, in that given enough time, it remains fair - just curious if anybody knew the reason. I did the same thing, in trying to look through some documentation/forums, but didn't find a suitable answer either. Oh well.
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April 05, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
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Hi everyone,

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What causes some entries in the winners list to be duplicated - or rather, for a user to win 2 blocks in a row? I see it from time to time, but right now there seems to be (as a single point in time) an awful lot. Just looking through "masternode winners 100" I see 6 sets of back-to-back same winners:

38802/38803
38796/38797
38781/38782
38724/38725
38714/38715
38699/38700

At first I thought it might be when we find 2 blocks nearly simultaneously. If I subtract 10 blocks from each of these (which makes sense, as the winner list is populated 10 blocks in advance), it looks like block find times are very close SOMETIMES, but not enough to really draw a meaningful conclusion.

When the first Sanctuaries came online back in december, almost all payments were back to back. I dived into the Dash documentation back then, but didn't really come a conclusive reason for myself. I have some double-payments from time to time, and it seems that the chance of having those reflect what I would expect by watching other double-payments.

Yeah, I assume it's reasonably balanced, in that given enough time, it remains fair - just curious if anybody knew the reason. I did the same thing, in trying to look through some documentation/forums, but didn't find a suitable answer either. Oh well.

OK, Jaap, you cracked it for me, although I didn't realize it until just now. The queue picks randomly from the 10% of nodes at the top - but they don't get removed when selected, but when they get paid. That's the trick.

When we have 100 masternodes online, you've got a 1/10 chance of being selected once you enter the "top 10%" - I assume we could run some "birthday problem" calculator that would tell us that we'll always see this.

I can imagine a threshold of like 20 masternodes that would have resulted in everybody being back-to-back, though...
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