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To quickly summarize how the markets work, use the following as an example in easy numbers.

You have 100 ABC to sell.

The CCex price says there are sell orders for 2000 ABC at 20 sat and 1900 ABC at 21 sat.  Meanwhile, there are buy orders for 500 ABC at 18 sat and 1000 ABC at 17 sat.

You have multiple options, but the three most basic ones are this.

You could sell your 100 ABC instantly for 18 sat, fulfilling part of that buy order.  You would instantly receive 1800 Sat minus commission.

You could place a sell order for 20 sat, and that would increase the sell order from 2000 ABC to 2100 ABC.  Once 2000 ABC had sold at 20, your 100 ABC would be the next to sell.  If I am the user trying to sell 2000 ABC, and I cancel my sell order, then your order goes to the front of the line, even if 8 hours later I place a new sell order for 20 sat.  It's a FIFO system.

You could place a sell order for 100 ABC at 19 sat, becoming the only sell order at that level, and being the first in that line.

To refine the example, if you had 1500 ABC to sell, you could instantly sell the first 500 for 18 sat, and the last 1000 for 17 sat, fulfilling both buy orders at said prices.

Most markets move pretty quickly, so even if you duplicate a price and get last in line, if you're near the transaction line (where the buy and sell orders are actually occurring) you'll move up in a reasonable time.

Thanks for the detailed response.  The example numbers help.

When i look at the current market it is clogged at every level (12,13,14,15,etc ) is clogged with high volume of coins. So my original point is that there is no way for a normal 1 cpu miner to ever get into that area and always settle for the lower end (11 sat). The only hope is that the overall prices rises. But the supply side will always keep a cap on it.

It needs more demand. from features, PR, new exchanges, dunno

Keep in mind this is still a very new crypto. All if these things are planned or in progress.
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To quickly summarize how the markets work, use the following as an example in easy numbers.

You have 100 ABC to sell.

The CCex price says there are sell orders for 2000 ABC at 20 sat and 1900 ABC at 21 sat.  Meanwhile, there are buy orders for 500 ABC at 18 sat and 1000 ABC at 17 sat.

You have multiple options, but the three most basic ones are this.

You could sell your 100 ABC instantly for 18 sat, fulfilling part of that buy order.  You would instantly receive 1800 Sat minus commission.

You could place a sell order for 20 sat, and that would increase the sell order from 2000 ABC to 2100 ABC.  Once 2000 ABC had sold at 20, your 100 ABC would be the next to sell.  If I am the user trying to sell 2000 ABC, and I cancel my sell order, then your order goes to the front of the line, even if 8 hours later I place a new sell order for 20 sat.  It's a FIFO system.

You could place a sell order for 100 ABC at 19 sat, becoming the only sell order at that level, and being the first in that line.

To refine the example, if you had 1500 ABC to sell, you could instantly sell the first 500 for 18 sat, and the last 1000 for 17 sat, fulfilling both buy orders at said prices.

Most markets move pretty quickly, so even if you duplicate a price and get last in line, if you're near the transaction line (where the buy and sell orders are actually occurring) you'll move up in a reasonable time.

Thanks for the detailed response.  The example numbers help.

When i look at the current market it is clogged at every level (12,13,14,15,etc ) is clogged with high volume of coins. So my original point is that there is no way for a normal 1 cpu miner to ever get into that area and always settle for the lower end (11 sat). The only hope is that the overall prices rises. But the supply side will always keep a cap on it.

It needs more demand. from features, PR, new exchanges, dunno

Keep in mind this is still a very new crypto. All if these things are planned or in progress.

Yes of course. Very understandable. That is why im hoping we can brainstorm something that will make the demand side stronger. Some special feature or compelling aspect. It may pop into someone's head and we can all work towards it quickly
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bible_pay have you ever thought about change name our coin? more ppl told me that name of this coin is bad   BIBLECOIN for example or something other

No , and since I have integrity, No .

While we are on that subject, lets not be ashamed to say JESUS IS LORD!

Keep your lamps filled, and pray to be worthy of the rapture at all times - stay rapture ready guys.

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Rob -

is it possible to add a export to csv function to the pool.

For tax purposes its necessary to track how much and when crypto is mined.

It would also be useful to have the number of coins mined in 24 hour period or per hour to get a sense of rate

Thank you
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They believe in Jesus as a holy prophet, they just don't accept Him as the Son of God.  They don't believe He died on the cross for our sins, instead they believe He was taken up to Heaven like Elijah.  They don't believe God can have any sons or daughters and that would be the crime of shirk.  But they would agree with the mandate of biblepay:

Surah 2:277
Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

From http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201609/what-do-muslims-think-jesus-30772
“Who do people say that I am?” Jesus asked his disciples. Their answers—from John the Baptist to Elijah or one of the prophets—reveal how his followers understood his life and mission. Today, asking Muslim communities around the world the same question—who do you think that Christ is?—is equally revealing.

The Quran mentions Jesus, or Isa, 25 times, but differently each time. The Quran explains that Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (19:20–21) and is “high honored in this and the next world” (3:45–47). Thus, he is called Isa ibn Maryam, or Jesus son of Mary. The Quran also refers to him as ruh min Allah (“Spirit from God”), mushia bi’l baraka (“the Messiah—someone blessed by God”), kalimah min Allah (“Word from/of God”), and rasul (Prophet-Messenger) of God.

Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet who was given a special message—injil, or the gospel—to convey to all people. This message both confirmed what was taught in the Torah and foretold the coming of Prophet Muhammad. Thus, Jesus has a vital and unique role to play in the Muslim faith.

However, while Muslims accept that Jesus was a servant, teacher, and lover of God’s Word, they do not believe that he was divine or the son of God. The Quran describes the miracles Jesus performed, such as healing the sick and raising the dead, but does not ascribe these miracles to his divinity. Instead, Jesus is a sign to all humankind of God’s endless mercy.

Muslims do not believe in original sin. They see no need for a savior and, moreover, do not believe in Jesus’ crucifixion. The Quran states that Jesus was assumed into heaven (3:169) before his actual death. Islamic tradition explains that Jesus was spared death because he was God’s holy one. Muslims believe Jesus’ enemies could not triumph over him because he is God’s chosen servant.

Like Christians, Muslims believe that Jesus will return. Islamic texts say that Jesus will come back on the Day of Judgment, when he will destroy the ad-dajjal—anti-Christ or imposter.

Throughout history and today many Islamic thinkers have used Jesus as an important religious model. Eleventh- and 12th-century scholar Abu Hamid al-Ghazali encouraged Muslims to pray as Jesus prayed. Thirteenth-century philosopher Ibn ‘Arabi called Jesus wilaya (“seal of the friend of God”) because he possessed the highest knowledge of and intimacy with God. Mahmoud Ayoub, a modern Islamic theologian, has developed an Islamic Christology that explores how Jesus exemplifies the fulfillment of humanity by being fully illuminated by God’s light (tajalli).

Of course Islamic thought on Jesus differs from Christian teachings. But we also share many common beliefs: the virgin birth of Jesus to Mary, profound respect for the mystery of God, love for Jesus, and a willingness to learn from his life as we seek happiness with God. Perhaps here is an opening for a productive conversation between our faiths.

Peace be with you, adoron4ik1980.  Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Its a pleasure to have you here.  I love the synopsis above, it is a great reference and succinct.  It is exactly what I learned about the Qurans and Quranic view on Jesus.

I respect that this conversation could be very constructive, or a powder Keg (similar to the Middle East) situation.  Let us try to embrace this and create something positive.

I must move on.  What can we do to work together?  Well, for one I think it would be a good exercise to come up with a quantifiable "program" that tests the various top 5 faiths using various methods, such as the way the justice system uses witnesses and juries.  If we have at our disposal, a cross section of 1300 BiblePay users, we could for example gain some insight into questions like:  Who had an NDE and saw Jesus or Muhammed, and did he save you?  Just as the prophets of Baal could not light the fire, yet Yahweh not only burned the log, but the boulders, the dirt and all the water around it too, was Muhammed able to come through as the Most High?  Could we have a distinct count of links to testimonies in Pakistan and Indonesia with testimonies where Allah healed them and a similar count where Jesus healed them?  If we had some technical indicators, this would lead one to believe that maybe they are worshiping the wrong God.  It may not be apparent to everyone, but Ill assert it here:  Worshiping the most high God of the wrong bible, is equivalent to worshiping the beast.  Another words, one is in hell and one is in heaven.  Either Allah or Yahweh is the most high, they are not the same Gods.

Its extremely interesting .

Rob, I wanted to get back to this post.  First, I am glad to be a part of this community; thank you for your welcome.  It is my understanding that your reference to Revelations 22:18
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I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
applies to the Book of Revelation.  I don't think the Catholic Bible is wrong for including the Book of Wisdom and Maccabees.  Nevertheless, I agree with your question, 'Why would Gabriel need to dictate the Quran?'  The Bible certainly seems sufficient.  Yet I do believe there is scripture that foreshadowed the coming of Islam.

It is interesting that in Matthew 3:9 and Luke 3:8
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And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.
that Abraham is sited as the root instead of Jacob.  Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to know the God of Abraham.  The imagery of stones brings to mind Palestinians hurling stones.

Also, Islam directly claims Ishmael, the first son of Abraham.  They believe that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, the first mosque and the holiest site in Islam in Mecca.  It was said as a blessing (and prophecy) by the angel of the Lord to Hagar:
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“Behold, you are pregnant and shall bear a son.  You shall call his name Ishmael, because the LORD has listened to your affliction.  He shall be a wild donkey of a man, his hand against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen.”
which relates well to the attitudes of Muslims in the Middle East.  Their warring attitudes are fulfilled through 'his hand against everyone and everyone's hand against him'.  So Ishmael is blessed to be fruitful with numerous descendants and a wild donkey of a man (that gives rise to a wild donkey of a people whose hand is against everyone and everyone's hand is against, living in hostility- like Muslims).

Another interesting observation is that before Isaac was born, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed.  Before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, Abraham makes a covenant with God for circumcision, so Ishmael, born to an Egyptian slave is circumcised and Isaac is promised.  Abraham's nephew Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt at the destruction of Sodom.  I believe there is significance that she was turned into salt and not dust.  We know through Jesus that we are told to be salt.  Salt of the world makes the world habitable and its existence tolerable to God.  God certainly could have woven into the lives of Hagar and Ishmael to end up in Sodom and be destroyed but He did not.  So it is evident that these people (people of Abraham) were (and possibly are) salt of the world, as Ishmael was not destroyed. So I believe that Islam, as shown through history is a different kind of salt, a salt more like salt as a last resort as seen through history.  After the Roman empire when increase in knowledge passed away from Europe to the Islam world where it was kept after the Romans and Greeks developed it, the nation of Islam kept the accumulated knowledge from this time together while the rest of Europe fell into the dark ages.  It is my belief that their devotion to the first and second commandments, There is no other god besides God and have no idols and belief in Judgement Day is what possibly keeps them as a different salt albeit not a salt that is ultimately saved.  Jesus is the way, the truth and life.  No one comes to the Father except through Him.

Already God is rewarding the nation of Islam with higher birthrates than the rest of the world.  Abortion is illegal in Islam.  It is only a matter of demographics that the world will become increasingly Islamic.  Taken as a whole, the nation of Islam has a population equivalent equal to or greater than China and and is growing at a much, much faster birthrate and with a similar GDP.

The angels heard Hagar when Hagar ran away from Sarah the first time and blessed Ishmael with being wild, hostile and fruitful; then when Abraham asked God that Ishmael also recieve the blessing given to Isaac, it was reiterated that Abraham was heard and that Ismael's numbers will be increased and will be made into a great nation. Although, the covenant and blessing was given to Isaac.  And finally, God heard Ishmael crying after Isaac was born and Sarah sent Hagar away, after what else, but Ishmael mocking.  And then it was again reiterated that the descendants of Ishmael will be made into a great nation, and God opened Hagar's eyes to a well of water to sustain them.

Another interesting link is the story of the downfall of Satan.  In the Quran, Iblis is Satan in the form of what they call a Jinn.  Iblis was thrown out of Paradise because he refused to bow to Adam.  "I am not the one to prostrate myself to a human being, whom you created from... clay..."  The same story is also found in earlier apocryphal works from Jews and Christians.  https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Parallelism:_Satan_and_His_Refusal_to_Prostrate
So he would not bow before Adam, made in the Image of God, and the revenge of Satan is in Revelations, getting man to worship the Dragon's creation- the Image of the Beast.

The Quran to me reads like a spiritual battle taking place.  Some parts have some truth, then abruptly something false is introduced.  If it was Gabriel dictating the Quran to Muhammad, it is like Gabriel is dictating for a time and then shoved out of the way when Satan or a demon intercedes, but Muhammad could not tell the difference.

Finally Surah 55 in the Quran reads like it is a prophetic response to a disciple in the future:
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Their belief that God does not have a Christ, the Son of God will be denied.  And I believe it will require a disciple able to do miracles in order to get them to pay attention, not threaten to kill the disciple and start to question like in this Surah.
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I think we have our answer in why the Quran and why Islam in the prophecy-blessing of Ishmael.
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Christianity mostly did not and does not spread by the sword so it never has gained much traction and belief among Arabians.  Perhaps it was forseen that the Arabs would rise in strength and power and since Islam spreads by the sword and would occupy Israel for a long time it was better that they were monotheistic Muslims than pagans.
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 December 03, 2017, 04:40:36 AM

I would rather try and get Ronnie Moas's https://twitter.com/RonnieMoas  attention or Willy Woo's https://twitter.com/woonomic

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I would rather try and get Ronnie Moas's https://twitter.com/RonnieMoas  attention or Willy Woo's https://twitter.com/woonomic

Social media became too much of a hassle for me and I dumped it a while back.  I can email Ronnie Moas- I think he will respond, and I can try Will Woo; his coindesk email is WillyWoo@coindesk.com . Not sure if he monitors it but it is worth a shot.  I was kinda holding off, thinking about picking up another Sanctuary on the cheap if it did work out and get a lot of attention.  I can see Ronnie Moas being interested.  He does a lot of philanthropy on his own. Who knows?
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 December 03, 2017, 02:07:59 PM

Rob -

is it possible to add a export to csv function to the pool.

For tax purposes its necessary to track how much and when crypto is mined.

It would also be useful to have the number of coins mined in 24 hour period or per hour to get a sense of rate
Code:
For example general statistics, like on many other pools:
Code:
Pool Hash Rate
Pool Efficiency
Current Active Workers
Current Difficulty
Est. Next Difficulty
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)
Est. Shares this Round
Next Network Block
Last Block Found
Time Since Last Block
etc.
Thank you
Yes, I think these two things can be added.
Ill start by putting the CSV export button on the transaction history weblist, and later you can request a change request if you want something else.
(Right now you can see how many coins you mined in a 24 hour period by reading the "immature balance".)
Also I think we can add how many the entire pool mined in the about page.

If you dont see the features in the next two days please add a Feature Request here:
github.com/biblepay/biblepaypool

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 December 03, 2017, 10:32:45 PM

I've heard of her...She does good work with promoting on Twitter and LinkedIn. Think she has done some social media coordinator stuff for some other coins as well.

If this is the Tanya (Tanja?) Bivic from Slovenia,
she was just listed in top 10 Females in Crypto 2017 in Core (Blockchain News) magazine:

Page 64, December issue of Core magazine:  http://coremagazine.info/December

57% of Slovenia is Christian
76% of Europe is Christian
50% of Russia is Christian
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Good luck guys
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This is one of the most hilarious projects I've seen yet, and I mean it in a good way. Good luck guys.
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I just looked at the pool stats. We have picked up a lot of new miners! And have around 50% more HPS than about a week or two ago!
We are growing nicely, and there is obviously a growing interest in running sanctuaries.
Great work Rob! Thanks for your hard efforts.

Windows:   Miner Count: 512, Avg HPS: 9032.84, Usage: 45%
Linux:   Miner Count: 622, Avg HPS: 38372.21, Usage: 55%
Pool Total HPS:   15996802.58
Pool Miners:   1130
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znffal yeah, i checked our pool hash power and    more miners added to us   (last days added almost 150miners and next days i could to add next 50miners hehe)

bible_pay any changes with pool in next days?

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znffal yeah, i checked our pool hash power and    more miners added to us   (last days added almost 150miners and next days i could to add next 50miners hehe)

bible_pay any changes with pool in next days?
Do you mean a new feature, or a performance issue?

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Is anyone running Dash or Bitcoin here?

Can we please have one person paste getchaintips from Bitcoin and one paste getchaintips from Dash?

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 December 04, 2017, 03:01:22 PM

Ive been doing a lot of advertising,

I posted about BiblePay in every top 2 page google result article, steemit post, bitcointalk thread, etc for keywords and variations of:
masternode, cpu mining, asic resistant, charity, christian, etc

And Im still sneaking in BiblePay into /r/CryptoCurrency and /r/Altcoin when I can / when its relevant

It will be really cool in future when we have articles written about us!

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I contacted the other Tanja, she says that TonyaZee twitter account is not her, so I think there are just 2 CryptoTonyas/Tanyas haha
I told them both about the project and about the future PR budget, we shall see what happens.

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I made another post about finding a SegWit Developer and actually got a good private message!
I posted in the Project Development section of the BitcoinTalk forum
(Theres a Bounty subforum for Altcoin section, but it seems pretty spammy in there, would that be a good place to post as well?)
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You have been busy Togoshigekata!

The future is bright and we'll look at all this work and say you've been a huge part of it!

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Rob -

is it possible to add a export to csv function to the pool.

For tax purposes its necessary to track how much and when crypto is mined.

It would also be useful to have the number of coins mined in 24 hour period or per hour to get a sense of rate
Code:
For example general statistics, like on many other pools:
Code:
Pool Hash Rate
Pool Efficiency
Current Active Workers
Current Difficulty
Est. Next Difficulty
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)
Est. Shares this Round
Next Network Block
Last Block Found
Time Since Last Block
etc.
Thank you
Yes, I think these two things can be added.
Ill start by putting the CSV export button on the transaction history weblist, and later you can request a change request if you want something else.
(Right now you can see how many coins you mined in a 24 hour period by reading the "immature balance".)
Also I think we can add how many the entire pool mined in the about page.

If you dont see the features in the next two days please add a Feature Request here:
github.com/biblepay/biblepaypool

I added a Printer Export icon to our Pool web list.

So far I added the "EXPORT CSV" functionality to the :  Reports | Transaction History web list.  Click the printer icon in the top right corner to export to CSV.

Ill take a look at the other metrics now.

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Rob -

is it possible to add a export to csv function to the pool.

For tax purposes its necessary to track how much and when crypto is mined.

It would also be useful to have the number of coins mined in 24 hour period or per hour to get a sense of rate
Code:
For example general statistics, like on many other pools:
Code:
Pool Hash Rate
Pool Efficiency
Current Active Workers
Current Difficulty
Est. Next Difficulty
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)
Est. Shares this Round
Next Network Block
Last Block Found
Time Since Last Block
etc.
Thank you
Yes, I think these two things can be added.
Ill start by putting the CSV export button on the transaction history weblist, and later you can request a change request if you want something else.
(Right now you can see how many coins you mined in a 24 hour period by reading the "immature balance".)
Also I think we can add how many the entire pool mined in the about page.

If you dont see the features in the next two days please add a Feature Request here:
github.com/biblepay/biblepaypool

I added a Printer Export icon to our Pool web list.

So far I added the "EXPORT CSV" functionality to the :  Reports | Transaction History web list.  Click the printer icon in the top right corner to export to CSV.

Ill take a look at the other metrics now.

I added a lot of these Stats to the About page and has been deployed to Prod.

NOTE:  I dont know how to get the next difficulty as we use Dark Gravity Wave for the Diff function.

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