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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 237392 times)
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September 09, 2018, 04:47:29 AM
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C-CEX just posted that their DOGE and LTC accounts got hacked and all the balances are gone. I think the exchange is in semi-maintenance mode. Tried to withdraw BBP to different wallet addresses, but error keeps saying invalid addresses. Anyone else have trouble doing withdrawals of BTC and other coins?
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ATTENTION:


HUGE SCAM AUGUST PROPOSAL!!!!!!    all august proposals went to MASTERNODEs!!!!! here is proof

http://explorer.biblepay.org:3001/address/BD7FBC4HNhHZX7LrNkeobPahH3EksmKbGk


BIIBLEPAY why you lying us with proposals...that BBP is for orphans to exchange and no for masternoding........ what are you doing=it looks very bad

YOU ARE FANTASTIC LIER,SCAMMER,SHARPER,FRAUD


in our DASH GROUP this person which change proposal is scammer


sunk818 i can shit proposals when ROB is owner 100+?  so what will be next idiot proposals?
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September 09, 2018, 06:01:05 AM
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ATTENTION: HUGE SCAM AUGUST PROPOSAL!!!!!!    all august proposals went to MASTERNODEs!!!!! here is proof

http://explorer.biblepay.org:3001/address/BD7FBC4HNhHZX7LrNkeobPahH3EksmKbGk

Did you see - http://explorer.biblepay.org:3001/tx/f9fd0a104f0df35b6f40d2a4c153b6875ab28c34b9df83ea57797c7a7a655fb5

There are many inputs. Do you know who those belong to?

sunk818 i can shit proposals when ROB is owner 100+?  so what will be next idiot proposals?

You make a good point. It is impossible to vote NO on a proposal if someone holds majority vote every time. I don't have proof so I do not know if this is possible. Can you prove if Rob owns more than 100+ masternodes and actively uses it to vote on proposals?

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September 09, 2018, 06:20:05 AM
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sunk: are you noob or? check that TX, inputs is not important .. important is righ side ...

left aprox 5M here http://explorer.biblepay.org:3001/address/BJQNNwyKTf8jGYMMedptJ9xjm14CgWDkUn

this is 6 masternodes from orphans proposal...wtf


BSmCKoj5ejHRBEjZoenUueAWPL1hbtdCcf
BMsaghiHiSQjTvENYorjBdbpjFS6iCJe8N
BLX1f61DH1cp5LtM6CdNYuURJtdEnnV8nK
BSMAaGBGJvSnd5jNtXicZYdXNobfkxM2mn
BLpz5cgpfVPg7ok25ATFfSySXw2bmr3eXN
BNM4eTHuJUSJUquWqD6iapY8We7wtMrMST
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September 09, 2018, 06:23:40 AM
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ATTENTION:


HUGE SCAM AUGUST PROPOSAL!!!!!!    all august proposals went to MASTERNODEs!!!!! here is proof

http://explorer.biblepay.org:3001/address/BD7FBC4HNhHZX7LrNkeobPahH3EksmKbGk


BIIBLEPAY why you lying us with proposals...that BBP is for orphans to exchange and no for masternoding........ what are you doing=it looks very bad

YOU ARE FANTASTIC LIER,SCAMMER,SHARPER,FRAUD


in our DASH GROUP this person which change proposal is scammer


sunk818 i can shit proposals when ROB is owner 100+?  so what will be next idiot proposals?

Thanks Slavino.

Its clearly visible.

Enough. Im out from this coin. No more penny to this coin.

Bye.
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September 09, 2018, 06:26:21 AM
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svk noko

im talked now with my DASH COMMUNITY about this scam from ROB side with this masternodes..... all told me same thing= it looks from begin on huge scam from his side.... non-transparental transactions, lies,deleting critic posts of user when asked, nonstop changing rules, etc etc etc etc

i hope that ppl,miners,users open their eyes and will be asking Rob about this scamming

something is wrong with church order
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September 09, 2018, 06:31:48 AM
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all told me

Slovakia,
Calm down!
You change your mind every few hours with different / same users.
BBP is good, BBP is bad

Stop flooding this thread with your stupid posts and bad attitude. Angry
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September 09, 2018, 06:37:03 AM
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coinsinspect who is slovakia? im slavino,and when i saw your topics last months, you was first idiot here which talked about scam bbp.....and here is your proofs, you next noob

 stop talking bullshit======= this august proposal is scam and totally enormly..... DASH community checked it and its scam ... AMEN

only idiot will be sponsoring this gypsies from bankrupt shit countries...if yes coinsinspect you can will be first, send biblepay coder 1000$ for his gains
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September 09, 2018, 06:40:18 AM
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all told me

Slovakia,
Calm down!
You change your mind every few hours with different / same users.
BBP is good, BBP is bad

Stop flooding this thread with your stupid posts and bad attitude. Angry

Its clearly visible from posted link that bbp from orphans proposal were used on Masternodes.
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September 09, 2018, 06:42:48 AM
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coinsinspect are you retard or idiot? retard is sick,but your stupid idiot brain doesnt understand what is scam,fraud ....  all proposals was fraud.......


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September 09, 2018, 06:44:10 AM
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C-CEX just posted that their DOGE and LTC accounts got hacked and all the balances are gone. I think the exchange is in semi-maintenance mode. Tried to withdraw BBP to different wallet addresses, but error keeps saying invalid addresses. Anyone else have trouble doing withdrawals of BTC and other coins?

Similar thing happened after christmas "holidays" with Verge coins.

These C-Cex guys are either inept or thieves, I would bet the latter.
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September 09, 2018, 06:45:29 AM
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C-CEX just posted that their DOGE and LTC accounts got hacked and all the balances are gone. I think the exchange is in semi-maintenance mode. Tried to withdraw BBP to different wallet addresses, but error keeps saying invalid addresses. Anyone else have trouble doing withdrawals of BTC and other coins?

Similar thing happened after christmas "holidays" with Verge coins.

These C-Cex guys are either inept or thieves, I would bet the latter.
thieves ... only idiot using CCEX for big transactions ..... that russian boy is next scammer
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September 09, 2018, 07:35:20 AM
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Wow, that's a nice find, Slavino. I think some explanations are in order.

I checked the "accountability" page and this also looks really strange. The last legit invoice from Compassion seems to be from April 22nd (complete print-out of the checkout page). All the newer ones are just plain text BS-PDFs with no signature, no invoice number, not even a slight hint that any money was actually paid (it only says "total amount due"). For Bloom there isn't even a single PDF; Kairo looks legit but of course this is only a very minor payment.

So where did all the proposal payments go to? Can we have some actual payment proof from May 2018 on until August 2018? Deleting all these posts won't help, since they are saved externally.

P.S.: At the slovak guys: Cursing and foul-mouthing doesn't help either; especially not the children...
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September 09, 2018, 07:36:29 AM
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Lets see what Rob says before jumping to conclusions

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1. getgovernanceinfo
"lastsuperblock": 67650,

2. Put block number 67650 into explorer, block dated August 29th http://explorer.biblepay.org/block/1b9bf6ff5ed44638893802445d7dc690dc4f131d302ee35336434c0e7d2a8c2a

3. http://explorer.biblepay.org/tx/417caef5856250fda9f0617cdb762fdb2f8b429c2417357474a067d4bfec774d

4. +8.6 million BBP
http://explorer.biblepay.org/address/BB2BwSbDCqCqNsfc7FgWFJn4sRgnUt4tsM

August 2018 Compassion Recurring Orphan Sponsorship Premiums Due
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=229.0

5. -8.6 million
http://explorer.biblepay.org/tx/f76246ef88b411c635b5fac7bbb319e6c28f2a4c3da29c92f16a98728ca05102

6. http://explorer.biblepay.org/address/BD7FBC4HNhHZX7LrNkeobPahH3EksmKbGk

7. September 8th
http://explorer.biblepay.org/tx/f9fd0a104f0df35b6f40d2a4c153b6875ab28c34b9df83ea57797c7a7a655fb5
and if you follow the chain multiple masternodes are created

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September 09, 2018, 07:41:26 AM
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Wow, that's a nice find, Slavino. I think some explanations are in order.

I checked the "accountability" page and this also looks really strange. The last legit invoice from Compassion seems to be from April 22nd (complete print-out of the checkout page). All the newer ones are just plain text BS-PDFs with no signature, no invoice number, not even a slight hint that any money was actually paid (it only says "total amount due"). For Bloom there isn't even a single PDF; Kairo looks legit but of course this is only a very minor payment.

So where did all the proposal payments go to? Can we have some actual payment proof from May 2018 on until August 2018? Deleting all these posts won't help, since they are saved externally.

P.S.: At the slovak guys: Cursing and foul-mouthing doesn't help either; especially not the children...

Those guys are such idiots. The explanation is very simple:

Rob liquidated some of his own Sanctuaries and sold those BBP on exchanges. This way he was able to sell the BBP with more spread over time, in an effort to not upset the markets so much.

When the superblock hit, Rob used that BBP to recreate his liquidated Sanctuaries again.

Any other 'theory' is just FUD.

The end.

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September 09, 2018, 07:56:03 AM
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im testing nodecheck........ best value for biblepay...... very beautiful user environment and very easy setup
@jaapgvk have we any money for PR? im still dont understand waste all money for orphans.....we need pr guru-s

i believe that bbp will be raising,but we need smart decisions (BBP has best coder ever)

Currently we don't really have any money set aside for PR. Togo asks a monthly amount of BBP. The rest of the PR-budget of the last months went to the new exchanges. There simply wasn't any more budget. We will probably ask for budget in the October superblock. But you have to realize that the value of what we are currently doing comes from the contacts that we have. We are basically getting free PR-consultation (and access to databases) that normally costs 300+ dollars an hour. So if you want to know the value of our current PR-plan: it is in the thousands of dollars.

And please, if you say that we are wasting our money on orphans, then I don't think you understand what BiblePay is trying to do.
you wanted to sell bbp for orphans.......when wont be exists ppl which will be to buy bbp,then what? liquidity will be 0$...then what?.....all coins raised only with PR ... Rob supported 339 orphans,now what? ... you dont know do marketing.Admit it. What is your professions? Are you bussines man,or marketing chief or who from BBP staff is person from marketing,advisor,economic school? haaaa? Some people laughing whom it built this strategy...


school grade from teacher: 5


Well, the idea was that we would continue to add value to BiblePay in order to attract new investors. And this would enable us to sell BBP on the market for the children. As far as I know, we hit all points on the roadmap, some even way before their stipulated dates, and Rob is working very hard on adding features. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be enough currently.

I don't want this project to fail, so if the price continues to drop, I will vote a 'no' on the current proposal for Compassion. There is no money involved in this project that I care about losing. I just do this from my heart right now. And my heart tells me that this project matters. That's why I don't want this project to fail.

I'm not blind. I agree that we currently most probably have too many sponsorships. I want that number to go down as low as it needs to go. And after that, I want sustainable growth. It that means only 1 orphan per month, then so be it.

I also don't want to ignore our investors. 10% should be 10% in my opinion. Nothing more. That 10% is our motto, and in steady conditions the market should have few problems absorbing that 10% in my opinion.

And you realize that you are part of the problem, right? All your FUD is tarnishing our reputation. I don't understand your motives, because it seems that it is your own investment that your FUD'ing away here.

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September 09, 2018, 08:08:47 AM
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Wow, that's a nice find, Slavino. I think some explanations are in order.

I checked the "accountability" page and this also looks really strange. The last legit invoice from Compassion seems to be from April 22nd (complete print-out of the checkout page). All the newer ones are just plain text BS-PDFs with no signature, no invoice number, not even a slight hint that any money was actually paid (it only says "total amount due"). For Bloom there isn't even a single PDF; Kairo looks legit but of course this is only a very minor payment.

So where did all the proposal payments go to? Can we have some actual payment proof from May 2018 on until August 2018? Deleting all these posts won't help, since they are saved externally.

P.S.: At the slovak guys: Cursing and foul-mouthing doesn't help either; especially not the children...

I disagree with the whole 'Sanctuary theory', but I do think that accountability needs to be in order. There should be proof of payment. On the other hand, anyone is just one phone call to Compassion away to check if the sponsorships are actually there, so let's not jump to any conclusion here.

If there really is a fraud going on, then I will leave this project, as any sane human would do. But I find that scenario VERY VERY unlikely.

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September 09, 2018, 08:49:28 AM
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And about my experience with marketing: I have very little, and I'm thankful for that, because I don't like that world.

But you've got to understand my position in all this. I don't NEED to have experience with marketing, I just need to get the right people in the right place, and use their experience to set-up some good PR.

And now I'm done explaining. I'm starting to understand Rob's position of deleting posts more and more. I don't consider it censorship anymore if it's pure FUD. Have a reasonable dialog or get out.

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September 09, 2018, 10:15:57 AM
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I think we will reach higher levels of compliance and accountsbility with The Biblepay Foundation, and hopefully will also release Rob from some unpleasant paperwork.
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September 09, 2018, 11:43:09 AM
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Thanks jaap for keeping a cool head. Your explanation with the liquidation and recreation indeed makes a lot of sense and I hope that really is all there is to it. Everything else has already been said.

P.S.: I totally agree with your view on "marketing". As a scientist I also despise all that bs, but unfortunately nowadays it seems to be more important than ever, because people usually have the attention span of a 2-year-old kid and (especially in the US) have to be caught by catchy catchphrases, totally exaggerated bla-bla bs and shiny colors and bling-bling ...
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