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November 12, 2017, 07:08:32 AM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh
I think BCH would not replace btc even if it has Roger Ver's support therefore bitcoin will survive. He is just pumping it though for his own benefit and soon he will stop and may abandon BCH, then go back into holding btc. This aint the worst crash i have ever seen, in fact the crash on 2013 is way more worse and I think this level of dip is normal considering that the price has been sitting on 7000$+ for a period of time now. For now btc is just gaining momentum before reaching new milestones.

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November 12, 2017, 11:25:29 PM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?
Many are still believing him but no way it won't replace bitcoin and btc will live.

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh
Yes, it happened even before at lower price.

Well I am in favor that bitcoin will live for a long time and that must be forever, because it has been established already and its volume has a strong foundation in terms of asset. That price will have to fluctuate but don't think it literally as crash, because normally it occurs specially more dumps is happening everyday. More will be doing day trades specially those long term holders.

In the future, these debates will stop about blocks and people will get into supporting one bitcoin. No FUD and no any other attacks and interruption to the network, we will all live. I don't believe with those thrills that they are doing right now because in the end they will be getting back to bitcoin. They are whales and they knew it on how big bitcoin is.



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November 12, 2017, 11:51:38 PM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh
I think BCH would not replace btc even if it has Roger Ver's support therefore bitcoin will survive. He is just pumping it though for his own benefit and soon he will stop and may abandon BCH, then go back into holding btc. This aint the worst crash i have ever seen, in fact the crash on 2013 is way more worse and I think this level of dip is normal considering that the price has been sitting on 7000$+ for a period of time now. For now btc is just gaining momentum before reaching new milestones.
I agree, BCH will not replace bitcoin though the effect of BCH in btc price is suddenly fell down these days. I believe Roger Ver make on his own way to have earn huge profit because of BCH but probably it will not really replace indeed bitcoin. I believe BCH is just temporary at this position but still Bitcoin will survice and will rising its demand again.

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November 12, 2017, 11:55:41 PM
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One thing is certain, anyone who sold off their BCH which airdropped on them must be feeling like clowns at this time. It's best to just hold both BTC and BCH because no matter who thinks what, miners do contribute to the pricing and they will mine what is profitable to them.
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November 13, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh

It's not much of a crash - as long as BTC stays above $6000 it's doing well, remember this was the price about 12 days ago.

However, BCH does have the capacity to hurt bitcoin by taking away hashing power. It now has 54% of the hashpower, causing massive delays on the bitcoin chain. How long this persists is anyone's guess. If it lasts just a few days, no harm done, If this goes on for months, then big damage will be done.

   Alyssa85 if this goes for months then it is better to sell bitcoins now while I
am in profit, too much waiting can hurt me financially. I think I am not the only
one who is thinking about that.
   If others thinks similar like me next few days can determinate bitcoin destiny,
what if most of us sell bitcoins and buy BCH? This delays in transactions and
highs fees are worrying.
   HashPower is going down for days, today on 54% and in a week how much
will it be?
   I am with bitcoins, I invested in bitcoins, this manipulations are worrying me
and now I question my decisions, did I made a mistake?

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November 13, 2017, 12:33:30 AM
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Being new to this Crypto business, I bought $2K worth of bitcoins 2 weeks back when the price was $7000+ hearing about BTC price jump, then friend of mine tole me about the hard fork and possibility of new free coin, so I decided to invest $2k more and bought it when BTC was all time high at $7800.

Yesterday, over the weekend I logged on and saw that BTC was crashing and BCH was going way up around $2500. Being a noob, I made the error of panic sale of BTC and buying BCH and later selling BCH and buying BTC when BCH went back down. Anyway long story short, thanks to this whatever is happening with BTC-BCH business and exchange fees, I am now $2K short in my BTC holding and still see the BTC is going down.

Any advice on either to sell the remaining BTC for cash and cut my losses or still hold them, I now have around 0.2... BTC down from 0.4+  Sad . Not a huge amount to most but it is for me.

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November 13, 2017, 02:42:17 AM
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It is a pump and dump on BCH.  Bitcoin will never die.
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November 13, 2017, 05:18:41 AM
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What's happening to bitcoin is a  normal activity or should I call this a cycle, the fluctuations are part of advertisement for bitcoin if the price drops surely many investors will come to buy bitcoin. Bitcoin cash on the other hand needs to gain trust of people at some point it needs to increase its value so people will be interested. They are both a digital currency but has different ways to advertise.

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November 13, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
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Being new to this Crypto business, I bought $2K worth of bitcoins 2 weeks back when the price was $7000+ hearing about BTC price jump, then friend of mine tole me about the hard fork and possibility of new free coin, so I decided to invest $2k more and bought it when BTC was all time high at $7800.

Yesterday, over the weekend I logged on and saw that BTC was crashing and BCH was going way up around $2500. Being a noob, I made the error of panic sale of BTC and buying BCH and later selling BCH and buying BTC when BCH went back down. Anyway long story short, thanks to this whatever is happening with BTC-BCH business and exchange fees, I am now $2K short in my BTC holding and still see the BTC is going down.

Any advice on either to sell the remaining BTC for cash and cut my losses or still hold them, I now have around 0.2... BTC down from 0.4+  Sad . Not a huge amount to most but it is for me.

I think it is better to hold your BCH if you again convert into bitcoin you will lose again so just hold bitcoin cash.I expect bitcoin cash also have great future it will also give high return to you buddy.

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November 13, 2017, 06:06:00 AM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh

Roger Ver's support to BCH will make an impact to BTC's price, that is a fact, but this will not replace it. BCH will still be an altcoin and will never be the "real" BTC in which they are targeting to do. I'm positive that BTC will always survive in any type of attack people throw at it.

We all know that BTC is very volatile and a "crash" in its price is in its normal realm. There's nothing out of ordinary in it. Whether it will be intended or not, we couldn't know the correct answer to it. We just keep in mind that cryptomarket is being manipulated by the whales and will always do what they need to do just to profit in any market they enter.

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November 13, 2017, 06:15:51 AM
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BCH coming back to earth like a meteor. Wonder if it was all just a pump & dump, the price drop is excruciating for those that have bch.
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November 13, 2017, 06:50:27 AM
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I don't think bitcoin cash has something to do with pricing of bitcoin and besides this drop is a normal activity in bitcoin, there is a sudden pump and a sudden drop. Bitcoin become popular because of its nature of being unpredictable and so many fluctuations and the best thing is that whatever happen at the end bitcoin value wins and remain on the top with a very high price.

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November 13, 2017, 12:35:52 PM
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One thing is certain, anyone who sold off their BCH which airdropped on them must be feeling like clowns at this time. It's best to just hold both BTC and BCH because no matter who thinks what, miners do contribute to the pricing and they will mine what is profitable to them.

Not sure why I should feel like a clown. Took the airdropped BCH and swapped them to BTC. Transferred later the BTC I got to an exchange and swapped them to USD. Bought BCH for a good price then and waited with a limit order for the pump and dump of Ver and his buddies. Made 8.4 BTC out of thin air. So explain me why I should be feeling like a clown...
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Being new to this Crypto business, I bought $2K worth of bitcoins 2 weeks back when the price was $7000+ hearing about BTC price jump, then friend of mine tole me about the hard fork and possibility of new free coin, so I decided to invest $2k more and bought it when BTC was all time high at $7800.

Yesterday, over the weekend I logged on and saw that BTC was crashing and BCH was going way up around $2500. Being a noob, I made the error of panic sale of BTC and buying BCH and later selling BCH and buying BTC when BCH went back down. Anyway long story short, thanks to this whatever is happening with BTC-BCH business and exchange fees, I am now $2K short in my BTC holding and still see the BTC is going down.

Any advice on either to sell the remaining BTC for cash and cut my losses or still hold them, I now have around 0.2... BTC down from 0.4+  Sad . Not a huge amount to most but it is for me.



Just hold it all in Bitcoin and you'll end up making a lot of money even after your current losses. Stay out of BCH. It's a pure pump and dump coin. You got scammed into buying into a pump and dump scheme and lost money. That's the only thing BCH is used for. A few people who got rich from Bitcoin have decided to spread propaganda saying BCH is the real Bitcoin and they worked hard to pump the price up to be a huge bubble the past few days. If you still have any BCH sell it immediately. The normal price for BCH is about $400 and it will go back there in the next few weeks.

Bitcoin is the main crypto, it might increase 10x in the next 3 years. BCH likely has no future as it is used purely for trading and not used in the real world at all and won't be because Bitcoin is already the coin being used for real world purchases.

BTC just experienced a normal crash and BCH's zealots used the opportunity to pump BCH. BCH had its weekend in the news, now it is going back to normal <$500 levels. BTC just started recovering from a normal crash. It'll be breaking new highs in the next few weeks and will very likely hit $10k in December or January.
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November 13, 2017, 10:19:25 PM
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No, I dont think bitcoin will ever be replaced not with BCH or any other altcoins. We have witnessed the movement of btc value and experienced the devastating (somehow) price drop of it but there is nothing to worry. Bitcoin will recover from it and yes the price drop that is currently happening in btc world is normal. I am quite thrilled on the pump of the price.For sure btc will be back with even higher value.
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November 13, 2017, 11:32:28 PM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh

 Grin Grin I think this event is totally misunderstood for those who believing that BCH will take the place as the no.1 crypto currency in the all time history. they are all day dreamer  Grin they do totally believe that BCH can surpass bitcoin for just a short period of time. less than a year? that's totally crazy. bitcoin got his name for almost 3 years and to be more in demand for more country it takes than 3-5 years and bitcoin got his legendary own place for that very long adaptation. so after that more altcoin are dreaming that they can surpass bitcoin which is not.

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November 14, 2017, 03:02:22 AM
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Being new to this Crypto business, I bought $2K worth of bitcoins 2 weeks back when the price was $7000+ hearing about BTC price jump, then friend of mine tole me about the hard fork and possibility of new free coin, so I decided to invest $2k more and bought it when BTC was all time high at $7800.

Yesterday, over the weekend I logged on and saw that BTC was crashing and BCH was going way up around $2500. Being a noob, I made the error of panic sale of BTC and buying BCH and later selling BCH and buying BTC when BCH went back down. Anyway long story short, thanks to this whatever is happening with BTC-BCH business and exchange fees, I am now $2K short in my BTC holding and still see the BTC is going down.

Any advice on either to sell the remaining BTC for cash and cut my losses or still hold them, I now have around 0.2... BTC down from 0.4+  Sad . Not a huge amount to most but it is for me.



Just hold it all in Bitcoin and you'll end up making a lot of money even after your current losses. Stay out of BCH. It's a pure pump and dump coin. You got scammed into buying into a pump and dump scheme and lost money. That's the only thing BCH is used for. A few people who got rich from Bitcoin have decided to spread propaganda saying BCH is the real Bitcoin and they worked hard to pump the price up to be a huge bubble the past few days. If you still have any BCH sell it immediately. The normal price for BCH is about $400 and it will go back there in the next few weeks.

Bitcoin is the main crypto, it might increase 10x in the next 3 years. BCH likely has no future as it is used purely for trading and not used in the real world at all and won't be because Bitcoin is already the coin being used for real world purchases.

BTC just experienced a normal crash and BCH's zealots used the opportunity to pump BCH. BCH had its weekend in the news, now it is going back to normal <$500 levels. BTC just started recovering from a normal crash. It'll be breaking new highs in the next few weeks and will very likely hit $10k in December or January.

Thank you for your advice, seeing BTC climb again in price, I now have the confidence and will definitely hold the remaining BTC. I did sell the BCH at bit of loss, but learned the lesson.

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Now bitcoin has returned to the right track, I was worried bitcoin will drop below $ 5000, but happy because the low price of $ 5800 and now the price has close to $ 7000.

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November 14, 2017, 04:59:15 AM
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1) Do you think Roger Ver  with his support to BCH will Kick bitcoin price and replace it with BCH or bitcoin will survive ?
It will affect bitcoin's price and may kick it but I don't think so that it will ever be replacing bitcoin. Bitcoin will survive, I trust bitcoin as there's too much challenges that it went through before.

2) Do you think this crash normal (7,800$ to 6,200$) or intended Huh
Yes, normal crash are like that but this crash was composed of an expected correction of bitcoin and also with the pump hypers with bitcoin cash.


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November 14, 2017, 02:26:05 PM
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There is a theory now circulating:

Miners can quickly switch between btc and bch.

If btc/bch goes down they switch to bch. Transactions pile up - and if it goes on for long then the price will go down even further (a positive feedback).

It requires over 2000 blocks for the difficulty to scale down in btc (two weeks - more if the slow down is significant).

In bch the adjustment happens every new block - so it will not suffer that much from those oscillations.

(from https://pastebin.com/D09wHy2W)

Sounds logical - maybe BTC needs to switch to a similar faster difficulty adjustment scheme.

 But if the price does not drop below mining profitability - then it should not be that bad - after BCH difficulty adjusts up miners will go back to BTC.
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