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November 14, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
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I did not get a chance to make a video at the solar array

I am going to show its earnings  at nicehash


More info  The miner has mined  for about 20 hours

so 0.002242/20 =  0.0001121 btc an hour

1 day would be       0.0026904
1 week would be     0.0188328
30 days would be     0.0807120
90 days would be     0.242136    x 6400 = 1549


50 kwatts a day x 90 = 4500 x 10 cents = 450

so  1100 back  in 90 days

as we all know  these projections  don't mean much  but  not so bad a deal. with 10 cent power  with 5 cent power a good deal for sure.


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November 14, 2017, 01:27:06 PM
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We are still too far from Bitmain killer or Avalon killer

While competition is always good, it isn't Avalon that requires it right now.

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November 14, 2017, 07:37:30 PM
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The one thing that scares me is the power supply. If its rated for 2100w and you are seeing a live power draw of almost 2200 at the wall that means they are pushing the crap out of their knockoff power supply. I worry about the longevity of it.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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November 14, 2017, 11:03:50 PM
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The one thing that scares me is the power supply. If its rated for 2100w and you are seeing a live power draw of almost 2200 at the wall that means they are pushing the crap out of their knockoff power supply. I worry about the longevity of it.

It is a possible issue.
The heat sinks are good quality which  should keep chips okay which should help psu.

My ideas are in a place like the solar array it is cold in the fall and winter.
So this gear should be fine.  But next June July August when it is hot this is going to struggle.

So Have it setup now in a cool spot and you will be fine.

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November 15, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
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Phil I just checked your  mining address  great numbers!


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November 15, 2017, 03:30:36 PM
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the 20th is a snap shot it fluxes

but  in 46 hours the machine has mined 0.00530320 btc  and  that is good

it comes to 0.002766 a day  which is 19.92 a day before power

10 cent power is 5.00 a day  so this is making about 15 a day after power.


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November 16, 2017, 02:34:41 PM
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Just checked philipma1957 miner in 69 hours it has mined.  0.007885 btc

This is a secondary account .
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November 18, 2017, 12:35:35 AM
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Still running well

about 104 hours  since 11-12 monday


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr


i was paid  13 hours ago

I earned this in the last 13 hours   0.00154375    I am earning about 0.0027 btc a day before power

that is 20 usd - 5 usd for power =  15 usd  a day   since I paid 1200  I need 80 x 15 = 1200   80 days for roi
 

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November 20, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
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@leowonderful
I finally had some time and did a quick disassembly for the miner, took some pictures and then assembled it back together to continue the mining.

I have some close up pictures of the controller board and hash boards.  Smiley

I really like how it looks, seems quite robust to me when it comes to the cooling heat sink solution for example.


WhatsMiner M3 disassembled. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.


Controller board. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.



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November 20, 2017, 09:20:52 PM
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Eww that heat sink design is bad news imo.

Avalon did something similar with the A6 and what would happen is there is so much heatsink it actually acted as a collector and would cook things the second the miner shut down and the fan slowed. Thats one of the main reasons the A6 were so heat sensitive.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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November 20, 2017, 09:33:11 PM
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I finally had some time and did a quick disassembly for the miner, took some pictures and then assembled it back together to continue the mining.

I have some close up pictures of the controller board and hash boards.  Smiley

I really like how it looks, seems quite robust to me when it comes to the cooling heat sink solution for example.


WhatsMiner M3 disassembled. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.


Controller board. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.



Hash board. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.
Thanks for the pictures, loving the controller board and heatsinks along with the simple design of the miners! Not sure how true Fanatic26's statement about the heatsinks are but at least the design is neat. They still have time to improve on the current design, part of the reviewing process after all if the heat issue arises. Seems like stability on the miners are great too, shame Bitmain doesn't do half as good of a job on their miners nowadays.

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November 21, 2017, 12:35:16 AM
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Looks like the heat sink fins themselves have fins. Nice touch as that can easily double the effective surface area. Dragons did the same.

As for no-fans power-down cooking factor because of the large mass -- the A7's also use very large sinks and yes it is best to either stop cgminer so the miner has a chance to idle and cool down or - pull the data cable. Miner immediately goes into idle.

A couple times I just killed power while moving around and DAMN do the cases get hot! Ended up pointing them into the exhaust of some other miners to bring the temps down...

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November 21, 2017, 01:29:37 AM
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2kw, 100% out of the range for any standard home miner in the United States.

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November 21, 2017, 12:12:55 PM
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It's great to see another Bitmain competitor Smiley

How can it be a Bitmain competitor with such huge power consuption? EBIT E9 PLUS looks to be much better.

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November 21, 2017, 04:09:01 PM
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2kw, 100% out of the range for any standard home miner in the United States.

All you have to do is set it up on its on 220 circuit with the proper breaker.

Also, home mining is dead, you may have not got the memo from a couple years back.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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(Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M3 11.5 Th/s, 2000W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner
Disclaimer: I was able to buy one miner with an agreement to do a review here at the forum.

Click for a bigger version. Picture copyright (c) Pangolinminer.

1) General information, other needed items
2) Unpacking
3) The miner
4) Install
5) Configuration
6) Testing
7) Power consumption measurement
8] Conclusion
9) How to order
10) Video review by philipma1957


1) General information, other items needed

WhatsMiner M3 is a Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner using 28nm ASIC chip technology, manufactured by Pangolinminer (headquarters in Shenzhen, China).

WhatsMiner M3 is a standalone miner with a built-in controller and you don't need a separate controller, like Raspberry Pi for example to run it.
The nominal hashrate is between 11.5 to 12.0 Th/s with a nominal power consumption of 2000 Watts.

It weights 4.1 kg and outer dimensions are 335mm (L) x 125mm (W) x 155mm (H).
These are quite usual measures and weight for a ASIC miner.


Pangolinminer
: www.pangolinminer.com

Technical specifications:
Code:
WhatsMiner M3

Hash rate: 11.5 - 12.0 Th/s
Power consumption: 2000W
Power efficiency: 0.174 J / Gh/s
DC voltage input: 12 VDC
ASIC chip type: SMTI 1700 (28nm SHA-256 ASIC chip)
ASIC chip quantity per unit (miner): 189 chips
Number of hash boards per unit: 3 hash boards
Cooling: 2x 120mm x 38mm 12VDC 2.8A fan, model: KZ12038B012X (front and back, in a push-pull configuration).
Weight: 4.1 kg
Dimensions: 335mm (L) x 125mm (W) x 155mm (H)

Other items needed:
-A server grade power supply with at least 10x PCI-E 6-pin connectors, everyone with a dedicated cable, at least 18AWG wires.
I used a custom 2100W power supply called WhatsPower P3 to power my miner.
Since this is such a power hungry miner, I highly recommend using their custom PSU.
-One Ethernet cable to go to your router/switch
-Computer to set initial pool and configuration settings.

2) Unpacking
The delivery schedule from China to here in Finland was quite quick.
It was first sent from China to Hong Kong in November 4.
In November 7 it arrived to DHL facility in Hong Kong.
And in November 10 a local subcontractor for the DHL handed over the shipment for me here in Finland.

Miner and power supply were packed in own dedicated cardboard boxes.
Packaging for the miner was good with lots of foam to protect the miner.
The power supply was also packed nicely.
First layer was a bit of foam and then a good wrap around it with some bubble wrap.

But if you ask me about upgrades, I would add a ESD plastic bag for both the miner and the power supply.
They came inside the box without any plastic bag.

But the hardware arrived in a mint condition so this was not a big downside.

Packaging material. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.

3) The miner
Here are some pictures about the miner and the custom PSU.

Click the picture to show a bigger picture. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.








4) Install
The installation was quick and easy as it usually is with ASIC mining hardware.

You need to connect the Ethernet cable to your miner and the other end to the router or switch device.

And then you need a high power server grade power supply. Install all ten pieces PCI-E 6-pin power cables to the power headers found at the top side of the miner.

If you use the custom power supply WhatsPower P3, please also connect the 3-pin cable to the miner controller.

The miner uses DHCP to acquire an IP address and you can find it easily from your router configuration page IP address list or by using tools found online.

Pangolinminer also offers a IP found program at their website.
This way you can use the miner's IP found function.

Knowing the miner IP address makes the next miner configuration part possible.

You can also follow their (Pangolinminer) tutorial video for more help.
It is quite clear and straight forward video.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4of-rFbptA

5) Configuration
First you need to go the miner IP address with your web browser.
Then you login to the configuration page.
Username is root and the password is root by default.

Login screen. Click for a bigger version.

The default language for the miner is Chinese, but it is quite easy to change to English.

Setting the language at system properties page. Click for a bigger version.

Now it is time to setup mining pool settings.
Go through menus and find the Cgminer configuration page.
Click the drop down list and you are able to setup a custom pool address of your choice.

Setting the language at system properties page. Click for a bigger version.

You can put the pool address, username and password for three pools in a priority order from 1 to 3.
Miner hash board frequency and cooling fan settings are automatic, there is no possibility to have custom settings.

After you have ready with the settings, press Save & Apply.

Then go through menus and click Reboot to reboot the miner.

The startup process for the miner takes some time as it goes slowly through hash board frequencies, much like the autotune frequency model S9 miners also do.
After the startup process is ready, it restarts the Cgminer and then it really starts to do the mining work and you start to see 11.5 +  Th/s hash rate.

6) Testing
After all the settings were made properly, it was time to test the miner.
The hash rate was around 11.7 Th/s and it slowly started to show the same at pool side.

Status page. Click for a bigger version.

There are also status pages for the system log and Cgminer API log.

System log and Cgminer API log. Click for a bigger version.

And of course there is the system information page.

System information. Click for a bigger version.

7) Power consumption measurement
Both voltage and current measurements were done with HT-Italia HT7011 clamp multimeter.
Technical specs data sheet (.pdf document): https://mega.nz/#!5ssAiZQY!nuixMYOwoYImFX1zfzc9KibmhO2ig-Adav37rRt50AU

HT-Italia HT7011. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.

Voltage measurement and current measurement.
Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.


Stable result for the voltage was 220 VAC and 9.9 A for the current.
This means that the power consumption (at wall) equals about 2180 W,
when the hash board frequency is 636 MHz and the hash rate is 11.7 Th/s.

8] Conclusion
WhatsMiner M3 is just as good Bitcoin ASIC miner as the current generation competitor miners are and it is easy one to setup.
The power efficiency is not the best, but I think it is quite good when you consider that it is the older, 28nm process node technology.
The miner and power supply price is very reasonable, 1022 USD for the miner and 90 USD for the power supply at the moment when I'm writing this.
It performed just as advertised, I got 11.7 Th/s hash rate and the nominal rate is between 11.5 and 12.0 Th/s.
Power consumption is high in the 2kW area, but cooling fans do their job properly.
Cooling design is done well and the miner didn't get too warm.
This is a very loud miner as most of the modern ASIC miners are, you don't want this in your bed room.

I think that this makes a good competitor in the Bitcoin ASIC miner market.

I would like to thank Pangolinminer for a nice miner and for the chance to give a review for it here at the forum.
Their actions were very quick after I started the discussion with them.

If you got any questions, feel free to drop them here in this thread.
I will try to give my best answer.

9) How to order

You can make the order by contacting their sales agent via e-mail or Whatsapp.
See more details at their website.

Pangolinminer
: www.pangolinminer.com

They currently have about a two months lead time when you make the order.
At the moment when I'm writing this they are taking orders for January 20-30, 2018 delivery batch.

10) Video review by philipma1957
Philipma1957 also bought one demo unit and psu for review purpose and did a nice set of review videos.

Part 1 (unboxing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJaKc-2Isdk
Part 2 (setup): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpHAYR1PjA8
Part 3 (configuration): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdIjX0cd9d4
Part 4 (configuration): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ppH5xHkrV4

I'm quite interested in buying one. Is it worth it? Does it give decent profit?
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November 21, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
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Hi . I have bought one . But i have problem in this miner it reboot automatically after few minutes and never reach 9.3th . Also the fans speed are too slow its 1290 in , so the temperature adjust to over 80C and then after few minutes it shut down and reebot automatically . Whats the problem with this whatsminer M3 ??

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November 21, 2017, 07:26:31 PM
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It's great to see another Bitmain competitor Smiley

How can it be a Bitmain competitor with such huge power consuption? EBIT E9 PLUS looks to be much better.

Not by much though, if you ramp up a E9 PLUS to 11.5TH it would be 1667W and if you ramp one up to 14TH it would be just over 2KW

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November 21, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
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I'm quite interested in buying one. Is it worth it? Does it give decent profit?

See previous posts.

Philipma1957 has already posted his thoughts about the profit when mining at Nicehash pool.

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November 21, 2017, 10:46:27 PM
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Hi . I have bought one . But i have problem in this miner it reboot automatically after few minutes and never reach 9.3th . Also the fans speed are too slow its 1290 in , so the temperature adjust to over 80C and then after few minutes it shut down and reebot automatically . Whats the problem with this whatsminer M3 ??

screenshots of the gui..

would be needed to determine if it has issues.

9.3th  is a bit low.

do you have 240 230 220 208 volts.

if you have 208 volts  the psu that came with it may not have enough power to run it at 10-11th

also long times matter  multi hour tests not ten minute test.

it runs here

https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

goes as low as 7th as high as 13th  but that is how nicehash is.

been mining 8 days

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