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November 13, 2017, 10:17:04 AM
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It is very ugly what games are being played here. Do not fall for these dishonest and manipulative people.
Look at them. They are not the only ones, but they are among the most terrible disruptive forces in this industry:

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"Plotting the death of BTC and all Alt Coins...Long Live BCH!"





I can tell you all right now Bitcoin Cash is a SCAM.  

 https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr  - This was posted THREE months before today. Nobody could have forseen the exact events that have unfolded three months ago.
They are attempting a hostile takeover of Bitcoin.  The Bitcoin mempool has been spammed for days, and Roger Ver himself has been dumping 1000's of BTC on Bitfinex and buying Btrash. Do NOT buy Bitcoin Cash, hold onto your Bitcoin for dear life. If you don't believe me, go look at all the comments on his Twitter posts. People know whats up and they're angry!  I was banned from bitcoin.com for pointing this out. There are shills everywhere there.  Also go look up Roger Ver's criminal history, and his friend who claims he's the real Satoshi. Go watch his friend (Craig Write) cussing and getting defensive on youtube, that is definitely NOT the real Satoshi.

FAIR WARNING PEOPLE. I suggest you tell everyone who will listen, this is a fight for the future of Bitcoin and Crypto's as a whole!  

And if people don't believe me, I highly recommend you research this yourself.



BITCOIN will not be destroyed by this repulsive attack.  Bitcoin lives on.  Another victory.



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November 13, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
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Grow a little bit, you post some photos of a guy having great time and you will make him look evil, this is silly AF

Bitcoin sonner or later will need an upgrade (HF there is no other choice) so one day or another people will have to admit another currency as the new bitcoin simple as that  

It's like using an Apple 2 instead of a Macbook Pro just because it's the first computer with GUI lol come on, Bitcoin is unusable right now, implementing micro payment services are impossible on BTC and don't tell me BTC is a store of value like gold and blabla

Satoshi's vision was to make a P2P cash system, nothing more nothing less

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November 13, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
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has been fishy from day 1 . dumped that shit ages ago

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November 13, 2017, 10:32:23 AM
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Grow a little bit, you post some photos of a guy having great time and you will make him look evil, this is silly AF

"Plotting the Death of BTC"

^-  THIS is "Silly AF"

What's up with all the obvious Newbie scam promotion accounts like you... you are wasting your time.

Mess with BTC:  you are burning your fingers

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November 13, 2017, 10:40:37 AM
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I'm not with bcash nor btc,
The problem is that BTC became like a religion and satoshi a prophete, everyone's read the text but everyone has it's own interpretation lol

The issue is that (like religions), as some point in time the religion will not match the world's needs and here like every religion you find the fanatics like you that don't want to touch anything and the others who want to modernise the system to match the current needs.

What happens when there is more fanatics than progressivists ? atheists appears, by doing so there will be less and less people in the cryptospace because they will loose faith

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November 13, 2017, 10:48:17 AM
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Dude you talking about religions and feelings, and I'm posting links and telling people to RESEARCH.
You also mention people blindly following a guy named Satoshi, yet Bitcoin Cash is claiming their buddy, Craig Wright, is the real Satoshi.
You're really just contradicting yourself.

BCASH = SCAM
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November 13, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
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I'm not with bcash nor btc,
The problem is that BTC became like a religion and satoshi a prophete, everyone's read the text but everyone has it's own interpretation lol

The issue is that (like religions), as some point in time the religion will not match the world's needs and here like every religion you find the fanatics like you that don't want to touch anything and the others who want to modernise the system to match the current needs.

What happens when there is more fanatics than progressivists ? atheists appears, by doing so there will be less and less people in the cryptospace because they will loose faith

You tweaked this analogy to your liking in order to promote the scam.

Let me fix it for you.

Bitcoin is what started this entire movement.

There may be different interpretations and indeed there are sect members, fanatics, manipulative assholes or even scam promoter newbie accounts and other kinds of people who want to tweak the interpretation to their liking.

In the end, there's Bitcoin. And then there are fakes and scams who try to feed of the original name.

Trying to deceive the public by attacking the community and crusading won't work.

We will not join your sect.

You already lost.



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November 13, 2017, 10:54:05 AM
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For me BitcoinCash is not an investment but this is gambling
I can already guess about the manipulator in BitcoinCash therefore I'm just Hit and Run
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November 13, 2017, 10:55:13 AM
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Whether its the truth or not, what I know is that a lot of people will be bitten by this action and funny enough majority will be the newbies coming in while the remaining others are the greedy ones at the end of the day, they will still come back and blame people who were not responsible for their actions in ensuring that they put their money in something whose price was obviously artificial pumping.
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November 13, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
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You seem to know bitcoin more than it's early developers lol let me guess gavin andresen is an idiot and don't know what he's talking about lol
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November 13, 2017, 11:00:28 AM
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You seem to know bitcoin more than it's early developers lol let me guess gavin andresen is an idiot and don't know what he's talking about lol

Gavin lost his credibility in the Bitcoin community the moment he claimed Craig Wright (con artist and liar) to be Satoshi without any cryptographic proof whatsoever.

Yes, this is one of those moments to "lol" (as you put it) indeed.

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November 13, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
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Whether its the truth or not, what I know is that a lot of people will be bitten by this action and funny enough majority will be the newbies coming in while the remaining others are the greedy ones at the end of the day, they will still come back and blame people who were not responsible for their actions in ensuring that they put their money in something whose price was obviously artificial pumping.

It's like Bitcoin was not artificially pumped in the early days, this is crypto guys ! when a coin goes up it's looks like a pump and sometimes it is but not in this case, when a crypto goes up it's anything but "organic" lol
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November 13, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
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Well, they all definitely lost their credibility with this scam attempt, only total idiots and noobs can support them and that Bitcoin Cash DOG SHIT!

What is important is that BTC managed to triumph again and will get out of this even stronger and even more prominent.

I HOPE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING BITCOIN CASH AND HAVE GOT BURNED IN THE PROCESS finally get to their senses.

Instead of trying to reinvent scam version of BTC, focus your energy into obtaining more of the real legacy BTC.

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November 13, 2017, 11:05:32 AM
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I feel sorry for all those who bought BCH @ above $2K.
Could not believe pump and dump scheme even got to 2nd market cap rank briefly.
These are the kind of things that justify Jamie Dimon's claim that crypto is a scam.

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November 13, 2017, 11:22:20 AM
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Wtf

is this even legal? They must go to jail. those scammer boys
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November 13, 2017, 11:23:30 AM
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It's a pathetic and transparent attack against the real Bitcoin.

Never had a chance of working and the BCH suckers are left holding the bag.

You losers thought people would mistake a centralized Chinese counterfeit scam coin for the real Bitcoin?

Long live Bitcoin!
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November 13, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
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Don't you think there are some arbitrages between Bitcoin and other altcoins?
I have the feeling that on strong moves, the major currencies are quite anticorrelated. As if some guys with massive wallets were playing the spreads between these currencies. Maybe some crypto-hedge funds?
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November 13, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
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everybody in the Bitcoin world must know what these people do
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November 13, 2017, 12:11:10 PM
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everybody in the Bitcoin world must know what these people do
we do

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November 13, 2017, 12:15:51 PM
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many people lost money because of these bastards Angry It's a pity!
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November 13, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
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It's much much  worse than I thought

These are actual criminals! Really!



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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

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November 13, 2017, 12:53:18 PM
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Roger Ver and others , OK

You bunch of lying core propaganda experts , well you scum of the earth

Instead of insulting others for your failures.

Maybe get off your rear ends and fix your broken Core BTC coin , instead of pointing finger at others.

Core BTC Problems
Fees insane /  $20 to send $60 / only stupid do that
Wait weeks for transactions  / only stupid don't use another coin
Blaming Bitcoin Cash because Core Devs refuse to fix their coin /  only stupid believe you

Quit being stupid and Fix your Pathetic Core BTC coin

Marketplace and smart people will decide the coins fate

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November 13, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
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Even on the biggest and most liquid markets you have manipulations.
On interest rates, one of the most massive one in terms of volumes traded: LIBOR was manipulated for years by the few well established banks in charge of the quotation.
On FX: Central banks intervention...
On stocks: insider trading occurs every single day.
On commodities: prices of metals are controlled by the guys who own the storage capacities...
On oil: the daily fixing of Brent is in the hands of the majors acting during the Platt's window...

I am not surprised that the crypto-unregulated-opensource markets are quite manipulated as well. When you trade, whatever the market is, you have to take this manipulation into account in order to manage your risks.
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November 13, 2017, 02:22:05 PM
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Yeah you forget something, the illuminati too were in the game, and michael jackson is still alive lol
Whatever,  Bitcoin just proved to be vulnerable to "transaction fee attacks", the mining business is a business and like every business is condemned at some point to be monopolised which means vunerable. If BCH team was a scammer they could have decreased the BCH difficulty and brings all the miners in and let the core network alone. think 2x ...

In regard to Roger ver &co i could find easily some shit about bitcoin core developers and blockstream ceos...
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November 13, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
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Instead of insulting others for your failures.
well you scum of the earth
Ok, makes sense!


We are not pointing fingers, we are pointing out what pathetic games they are trying to play.

You're just another failed scam promoter newbie. We look right through your posts with ease.

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November 13, 2017, 02:48:43 PM
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Instead of insulting others for your failures.
well you scum of the earth
Ok, makes sense!


We are not pointing fingers, we are pointing out what pathetic games they are trying to play.

You're just another failed scam promoter newbie. We look right through your posts with ease.


If Core fix their Transactions limitations , then there is nothing to complain about,
because fees would go down and transaction speed go up

You try to blame others for Core Devs problems

Blame Core Devs it is their coin , it is their fault when it does not work.

Blaming others for your own faults & weaknesses , just shows how stupid and evil you really are!
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November 13, 2017, 02:54:09 PM
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Since most there are many guys out there blaming the team behind BCH about different thing thinking that the guys behind BTC are angels i’m going to put some stuff on my turn now:

Matt Corallo : The genius scammer behind coingen.io several person lost hundreds if not thousand of BTCs https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404607.0, never work before as a developer, graduated from college and went to blockstream to earn some serious cash https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-corallo-45a8367a/

Gregory Maxwell: Accusing Vitalik of being a scam http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/08/17/gregory-maxwell-vitalik-buterin-ran-quantum-computer-scam/

Axa : is the main investor in blockstream, there are no other companies out there that get sued like axa by the SEC
 

I don’t have the time to write about every marionette behind blockstream and core but the fact is no one is an angel and both BTC and BCH are backed by criminals, after all we are in crypto
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November 13, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
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Instead of insulting others for your failures.
well you scum of the earth
Ok, makes sense!


We are not pointing fingers, we are pointing out what pathetic games they are trying to play.

You're just another failed scam promoter newbie. We look right through your posts with ease.


If Core fix their Transactions limitations , then there is nothing to complain about,
because fees would go down and transaction speed go up

You try to blame others for Core Devs problems

Blame Core Devs it is their coin , it is their fault when it does not work.

Blaming others for your own faults & weaknesses , just shows how stupid and evil you really are!

I never even talked about Bitcoin Core's issues, this is another topic. You reveal a lot about yourself by mixing this up.

I was talking about the recent attack, the ridiculous "plot to kill BTC".

It must and is being pointed out that this is indeed a plot by criminals.

They go down, just like their scamcoin.

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November 13, 2017, 03:33:40 PM
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Roger Ver and others , OK

You bunch of lying core propaganda experts , well you scum of the earth

Instead of insulting others for your failures.

Maybe get off your rear ends and fix your broken Core BTC coin , instead of pointing finger at others.

Core BTC Problems
Fees insane /  $20 to send $60 / only stupid do that
Wait weeks for transactions  / only stupid don't use another coin
Blaming Bitcoin Cash because Core Devs refuse to fix their coin /  only stupid believe you

Quit being stupid and Fix your Pathetic Core BTC coin

Marketplace and smart people will decide the coins fate

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This may be a good time to cut your losses and dump your BCH

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November 13, 2017, 04:18:57 PM
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Yes, already sold my free BCH altcoin for a fat and free profit. It's already down over 60% in the last day. When it breaks below 1000...

Bye-bye!


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November 13, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
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Yes, already sold my free BCH altcoin for a fat and free profit. It's already down over 60% in the last day. When it breaks below 1000...


See BCH made you money , now watch you leave it in core btc coin and lose it all.  HA HA

Bitcoin Cash will Win!  

Core BTC coin will Die!

Within 1 Year from Today, write it down asshats!


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November 13, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
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Yes, already sold my free BCH altcoin for a fat and free profit. It's already down over 60% in the last day. When it breaks below 1000...


See BCH made you money , now watch you leave it in core btc coin and lose it all.  HA HA

Bitcoin Cash will Win!  

Core BTC coin will Die!

Within 1 Year from Today, write it down asshats!




I can also see that it is a matter of time another variant to pop up that will serve better initial plan by satoshi. 
But this would be most like a true decentralized solution.
(I thought that one of the initial principles was to get rid of middleman, not to replace them with miners, but who am I to speak)
If it is BCH to prevail or any other of it's kind, then there is no reason to not trust better the existing centralized system .

until gov intervenes, let's go speculate and play casino



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I know that they're already aware of these guys, but, sent a detailed report about their pump and dump scam to the FBI today. Smiley Good way for me to release aggression against these wrongdoers.
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November 13, 2017, 11:15:42 PM
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Thanks for the topic starter. This is a good things to see, as many people are in panic mode before, maybe till now.
In the recent event of bitcoin price fell down, and BCH price went up. This is what i think too. This is a scam, but it is scam well organized scam by a couple of rich people. It is a terrifying things for all of us that is only a small and mid investor of bitcoin, and some of us maybe depend its life on it. It is evil
And i guess they are not stopping to do that. They even pay people to make a false news on our lovely bitcointalk forum. There are recently many new account barking about how BCH will win, how BCH will reign to the  top, and how BCH will replace BTC. And asking for people to buy and invest on BCH, what a lowly act to do to promote a coins. It is a shame to see to what extends people willing to do to get money.
But now all we know all of your tricks, bitcoin will be even stronger, and we need to say bye to BCH. Long live BTC.
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Thanks for the topic starter. This is a good things to see, as many people are in panic mode before, maybe till now.
In the recent event of bitcoin price fell down, and BCH price went up. This is what i think too. This is a scam, but it is scam well organized scam by a couple of rich people. It is a terrifying things for all of us that is only a small and mid investor of bitcoin, and some of us maybe depend its life on it. It is evil
And i guess they are not stopping to do that. They even pay people to make a false news on our lovely bitcointalk forum. There are recently many new account barking about how BCH will win, how BCH will reign to the  top, and how BCH will replace BTC. And asking for people to buy and invest on BCH, what a lowly act to do to promote a coins. It is a shame to see to what extends people willing to do to get money.
But now all we know all of your tricks, bitcoin will be even stronger, and we need to say bye to BCH. Long live BTC.


lol i bet the illuminati are behind that and kayne west ...
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November 14, 2017, 12:19:41 AM
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Yes, already sold my free BCH altcoin for a fat and free profit. It's already down over 60% in the last day. When it breaks below 1000...


See BCH made you money , now watch you leave it in core btc coin and lose it all.  HA HA

Bitcoin Cash will Win!  

Core BTC coin will Die!

Within 1 Year from Today, write it down asshats!



How many times have bitcoin been declared dead.don't make me laugh

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November 14, 2017, 03:20:32 AM
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These kinds of fights are like the fights of religious fanatics, you got Bitcoin and you have got Bitcoin cash, if they're both successful with high prices you all benefit, you only need to hold your BCH long enough to dump for a good price, who cares about the buyer? let it to be a lesson for them to see the results of buying a clone and not the original, made in Satoshi.
If Bitcoin cash was any good, they could've airdropped at least 40% of their double spent for the community and then let people to see that they're not greedy, they have kept to the last satoshi to dump on idiots and then go to parties spending that money to hire some girls, the ones who let you to jump them. now lol.

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