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November 13, 2017, 11:58:09 AM
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Need your help guys!  I purchased $108.07 USD in Bitcoin yesterday @ 10am

Transaction ID 7443cd2b71a30f74d61fd389d304ca3cbc157f89d184115cd8bdeb2ba6ca9950

There is now $225.52 USD in my account and I can't send any of it not even $5.  I'm using the BTC.com wallet.  What's going on?Huh 
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November 13, 2017, 12:21:02 PM
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I bought the BTC from a bitcoin atm that I regularly purchase at.  I had about $95 USD in my account prior to last deposit that I couldn't spend and got some feedback that it is a total of leftover BTC fees.  But from my last deposit of approx $108 I should have been able to send that amount but can't send anything.  It shows it's in my wallet and not pending status anymore.  Should I stop using the bitcoin atm or BTC wallet in your opinion???  Thx
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November 13, 2017, 12:25:16 PM
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https://blockchain.info/address/3CGP8qKgVrRLsAkonZA4piNyd5oKE2h4UZ

What happens if you try to send from you Bitcoin regular wallet, transaction is showing and confirmed on blockchain.

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November 13, 2017, 12:30:46 PM
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I just tried sending anywhere from $100 to $20 and get the following message:

FAILED
There was a problem sending your transaction
You don't have enough balance to pay for the fee. A fee
of 0.03329352 BTC is required.


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November 13, 2017, 03:55:15 PM
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So if it's in my wallet and I can't send it anywhere does it actually exist?  My recent atm deposit should 100% be available but can't even send $5 of balance.  Can I go to bitcoin atm and sell it there or will I get a message insufficient funds?  If it shows in my available balance, I still don't understand why I can't use any of it.   Any help is appreciated. 


Transaction ID
7443cd2b71a30f74d61fd389d304ca3cbc157f89d184115cd8bdeb2ba6ca9950
At time of transaction
$108.07
At current price
$114.93
Date received
12 November 2017, 10:30:27 am
Confirmations
102
More info
See on BTC.com
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November 13, 2017, 06:01:33 PM
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So if it's in my wallet and I can't send it anywhere does it actually exist?  My recent atm deposit should 100% be available but can't even send $5 of balance.  Can I go to bitcoin atm and sell it there or will I get a message insufficient funds?  If it shows in my available balance, I still don't understand why I can't use any of it.   Any help is appreciated. 


Transaction ID
7443cd2b71a30f74d61fd389d304ca3cbc157f89d184115cd8bdeb2ba6ca9950
At time of transaction
$108.07
At current price
$114.93
Date received
12 November 2017, 10:30:27 am
Confirmations
102
More info
See on BTC.com

The transaction has been confirmed so you should be free to spend the coins.
I wouldn't advise sending now though as the network is highly congested and your transaction will take a long time (more than a day to process) if using normal fees.

I just tried sending anywhere from $100 to $20 and get the following message:

FAILED
There was a problem sending your transaction
You don't have enough balance to pay for the fee. A fee
of 0.03329352 BTC is required.




Have you tried changing the fee? Perhaps check the auto set fee. That could be one of the causes...
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November 13, 2017, 06:07:45 PM
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Thanks for your input, I've tried changing fees and still didn't work.  And even at the highest fee I should be able to send $5 of a $200+ balance.  I didn't change any settings or parameters and haven't had any issues prior.   Has anyone seen this happen before?  Is transaction is completed and in my available balance it should be simple but I am still new to all this. 
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November 14, 2017, 02:08:07 AM
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Given that your UTXO from the original transaction got "spent" here: https://blockchain.info/tx/c3b763d30bc8542c6579acdd749ad8007873e9a7ca8b44c6cf9cc9e57998de7f

I'm assuming that you managed to solve your problem? In any case, it sounded like any issue with your wallet provider... what wallet were/are you using?

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November 15, 2017, 12:31:22 PM
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I'm using BTC.com wallet and was able to send $100 using low priority fees.  But I still have $134.14 USD in my wallet and still trying to understand if and when I will ever be able to access them.  If they are leftover or gone to mining costs, shouldn't they be removed from my wallet?  What good is it to show that I have funds available but can never use them?   Thanks for your input and appreciated.
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November 15, 2017, 01:04:22 PM
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But I still have $134.14 USD in my wallet and still trying to understand if and when I will ever be able to access them.  If they are leftover or gone to mining costs, shouldn't they be removed from my wallet?
Can you share the address on which you hold these funds?
My guess is you have several small inputs, that means the fee required to send them is very high. Basically, at current fees, any input under 0.001BTC can't be spend, as it would entirely be taken by fees.

If the small inputs are indeed what causes your problem, you'll have to wait until fees are much lower to send them. Unfortunately, Bitcoin has come to this point where fees are this high. You have to compete with a growning number of other users.

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November 15, 2017, 01:32:10 PM
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Here a couple transactions with the little bits leftover.  But if all these little bits total the $100 in my wallet, why wouldn't I be able to send $50 of it for example?  You mean the fees would be more than that?  I tried sending $5 and wouldn't take.

#   Address   Label      Usages   Balance
16   3NDH5gw66vGjbX5VZ6DL6Ah5GP75QUmost          0   0.00000000 BTC
17   3CKBcWAjdVgNWf4RsPc9ogBjH8Go8xPzp1          1   0.00032321 BTC
18   33RALeWujU1ySp8fPJaAwXW9pSAGQKrUTd          0   0.00000000 BTC
19   3NCjG4wvczXpcpEeEuwSUZQR9GtqKAdxXX          2   0.00000000 BTC
20   3MkkJZ41xMY8Cz23TsDUNy5xWcUvzyEJQC          2   0.00000000 BTC
21   3E6SbmAn6f4T77tWFmpxELnZAwdbJLL4eh          2   0.00000000 BTC
22   3N4V3s7mHpnbz6TbigxSoxuvJZ2Rg4k4dQ          2   0.00000000 BTC
23   3N6BgiaLyaZ4UpVEYbRa3ABMsjynNinoZv          2   0.00000000 BTC
24   3BH5L7MagmiAT5uVcSajZqDhScGatD5Vx8          2   0.00000000 BTC
25   328sK5BixwG3PF12JW37Sbeho8xyRPv5ih          2   0.00000000 BTC
26   3GzQyX2xPTjBfrTSBp5f6bCmDSMeDq6U2x          1   0.00005523 BTC
27   33hMZjnFzbr9w3QBHTGAhH9iCCVukgkfLT          2   0.00000000 BTC
28   3BSGvzPUHSmGrecgB2ihbWJzR81hyDmBn8          2   0.00000000 BTC
29   3G2WTUcb8Maq9w7aT9pCpUjcY8eBW94AF9          0   0.00000000 BTC
30   3Kj4ofRr9xZJdqMNahrrsAeGPkePPipQXT          2   0.00000000 BTC
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November 15, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
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Here a couple transactions with the little bits leftover.  But if all these little bits total the $100 in my wallet, why wouldn't I be able to send $50 of it for example?  You mean the fees would be more than that?  I tried sending $5 and wouldn't take.

#   Address   Label      Usages   Balance
17   3CKBcWAjdVgNWf4RsPc9ogBjH8Go8xPzp1          1   0.00032321 BTC
26   3GzQyX2xPTjBfrTSBp5f6bCmDSMeDq6U2x          1   0.00005523 BTC
This is exactly what I expected. You have many very low amounts, that gives a big transaction (in bytes), and requires a high fee.

At current fees, you can forget about it (sorry!).
Try sending your entire balance to 1 address of your own when https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx recommends 40 Satoshs/byte (or less). This sometimes happens on Sundays.

In the future, try to prevent collecing very small inputs, they're not worth the fee they require to send them.

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November 15, 2017, 04:00:29 PM
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Thanks for the advice,  what am I doing to make this happen and what should I do to prevent it going forward?  So does that balance just sit in my wallet forever?  I use BTC.com, Bread, Coinbase and Blockchain wallets.  (BTC.com wallet is where I have all the build-up) Is there one I should be using over the rest.  Thx!

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November 15, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
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Thanks for the advice,  what am I doing to make this happen and what should I do to prevent it going forward?  So does that balance just sit in my wallet forever?  I use BTC.com, Bread, Coinbase and Blockchain wallets.
I don't use either one of those, but Coinbase is not an wallet. It's an exchange, which means they'll be the one who have to deal with small inputs instead of you.

I prefer using a wallet that allows me to choose exactly which inputs to choose. That way I can for instance prevent getting small change, which is what happened to the addresses you showed earlier.
Example: 899c98c646df9605b7ad6501636a5bd968ae2b04707e8645afb0768626d2e39d:
You had 0.04501152, paid 0.044253 + 0.00043531 fee, and got 0.00032321 change.
If possible, you could have paid a fraction more, and used the input completely, without change.

As an alternative, try to spend small change once in a while too, when fees are low. Think of it this way: if you pay with banknotes only, you'll collect many heavy coins in your pocket. It's annoying to spend them all at once, so you do it during your normal shopping.

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