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November 24, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
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I was reading the white paper and I was impressed by the technology the team is trying to create. I will keep an eye at this project.

Thank you for your support, the more things to come! Stay tuned.
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November 25, 2017, 04:01:26 PM
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Is there any counter of the funds invested into the TOR-Q-ALL project during a pre-ICO period?

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November 27, 2017, 04:16:49 AM
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Question from Russian community.
We can't understand how do you provide your network having no cell station in one's country (and it seems that you don't have one)?

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November 27, 2017, 06:15:04 AM
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Question from Russian community.
We can't understand how do you provide your network having no cell station in one's country (and it seems that you don't have one)?



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Indeed, we don't. However, the whole idea is based on the protocol's upgrade, that is to say, that we manage our own traffic that we've been provided the way we consider appropriate, the variety of setups is huge and that's why we are able to deliver our features. Let us be more specific and allow you to test the product, so please e-mail us at ico [at] torqall.com with the reference to this discussion, or PM us here.

We would appreciate you share your review with the community afterwards.



P.S. We are ready to provide any interested party with our product's testing opportunity. Please e-mail us at ico [at] torqall.com with a short introduction letter and social networking audience. Since we are a bit limited on items, please keep in mind that your application will be evaluated with a view for the better promotion with the social networks.
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November 27, 2017, 06:27:19 AM
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CYBER MONDAY (AND TUESDAY) ARE ALL IN FORCE.

We've been working hard the other weekend, and eventually scaled up our network, so new slots are now available.

Get 20$ OFF for the first and the second months of the subscription here https://www.torqall.com/#vbid-27d0e482-irbdlerw



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Indeed, we don't. However, the whole idea is based on the protocol's upgrade, that is to say, that we manage our own traffic that we've been provided the way we consider appropriate, the variety of setups is huge and that's why we are able to deliver our features. Let us be more specific and allow you to test the product, so please e-mail us at ico [at] torqall.com with the reference to this discussion, or PM us here.



Thank you for your offer, but I think this won't help because of some reasons.
First, even if I will see that your product is fully operational I can't explain to the community how exactly it works. As I'm not so influentional person, a few will believe me that product is indeed workking. If you gave such sim to Vitalik Buterin this would lead to great net effects.
Second, every investor is rather a skeptic. And skeptics believe in numbers, schemes and definitions, not in personal opinion.
Third, sending product will take time and we don't have much time in terms of upcoming ICO.

Russian thread already have bunch of "scam" shouts cause people don't understand how is this possible. Please just give some links to related technologies that allow you to provide your major features and this will do fine.

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Indeed, we don't. However, the whole idea is based on the protocol's upgrade, that is to say, that we manage our own traffic that we've been provided the way we consider appropriate, the variety of setups is huge and that's why we are able to deliver our features. Let us be more specific and allow you to test the product, so please e-mail us at ico [at] torqall.com with the reference to this discussion, or PM us here.



Thank you for your offer, but I think this won't help because of some reasons.
First, even if I will see that your product is fully operational I can't explain to the community how exactly it works. As I'm not so influentional person, a few will believe me that product is indeed workking. If you gave such sim to Vitalik Buterin this would lead to great net effects.
Second, every investor is rather a skeptic. And skeptics believe in numbers, schemes and definitions, not in personal opinion.
Third, sending product will take time and we don't have much time in terms of upcoming ICO.

Russian thread already have bunch of "scam" shouts cause people don't understand how is this possible. Please just give some links to related technologies that allow you to provide your major features and this will do fine.


A call starts with an alert signal transmission via FACCH (Fast Associated Control Channel) to the BSS (Base Station Subsystem). Then, it’s sent to MSC (Mobile Switching Center), which forwards Address Complete message to the calling party.

Next step is the calling itself, c’est-à-dire, dial/ringing.

If the number (MSISDN) of one of the subscribers is known, then it is possible to get all the call details from the operator’s billing and the session itself. Meanwhile, it is possible to intercept the session over the air by intercept complexes.

TOR-Q-ALL user after number dialing presses the Call-button – the call is aborted. At the same time the encrypted command is sent through the signal channel to the TOR-Q-ALL Automatic Telephone Station, which in its turn through SS7 requests Visitor Location Register for a temporary number MSRN (Mobile Station Roaming Number) – for these particular SIM and call.

When the operator has allocated MSRN to a SIM, TOR-Q-ALL’s ATS starts calling this number. At this stage the call to TOR-Q-ALL. When the client answers this call, the first leg opens. Then TOR-Q-ALL’s ATS starts calling the destination number. When the second party answers the call, the second leg opens (Call Back technology). This algo for call makes it impossible to get the information from the operator’s billing software, as it is unknown what operator TOR-Q-ALL is registered to, and as a result there is no public identifier - MSISDN by means of which IMSI, Ki and IMEI parameters are obtained. Even if the destination number is wired it is impossible to understand who he’s had a conversation with, for the session consists of two legs, and both legs are separated by TOR-Q-ALL’s server ATS, and as a result, the anonymity is reached by these means.
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November 30, 2017, 01:54:53 PM
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and as a result, the anonymity is reached by these means.

Awesome! I will translate this into Russian. And what about anonimous teams. Are there any chances that you will decide to reveall yourself?

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November 30, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
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and as a result, the anonymity is reached by these means.

Awesome! I will translate this into Russian. And what about anonimous teams. Are there any chances that you will decide to reveall yourself?

Dear Ogrudko

Well, in terms of trust, our names and photos, and CVs mean nothing, actually. A numerous ICOs gone wrong and their founders escaped with raised funds (and counting). On the other hand, we do feel our project to become a trigger for changes in terms of the freedom of communication. Apart from that, it's a good business with quite an interesting margin to develop it further on. Once we get the funds needed to scale it up and start the real marketing campaign, you'll see how strong the platform may be. It's already a ready-to-use solution, and a lot investments have been made, so why would we abandon this ship, when the wind is coming?

Sincerely,
Lude | TOR-Q-ALL Co-founder
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December 03, 2017, 11:02:21 AM
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Maybe more hype on this thread? No news? No press? No media?


     
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December 03, 2017, 11:24:43 AM
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and as a result, the anonymity is reached by these means.

Awesome! I will translate this into Russian. And what about anonimous teams. Are there any chances that you will decide to reveall yourself?

Dear Ogrudko

Well, in terms of trust, our names and photos, and CVs mean nothing, actually. A numerous ICOs gone wrong and their founders escaped with raised funds (and counting). On the other hand, we do feel our project to become a trigger for changes in terms of the freedom of communication. Apart from that, it's a good business with quite an interesting margin to develop it further on. Once we get the funds needed to scale it up and start the real marketing campaign, you'll see how strong the platform may be. It's already a ready-to-use solution, and a lot investments have been made, so why would we abandon this ship, when the wind is coming?

Sincerely,
Lude | TOR-Q-ALL Co-founder

You may be right indeed. But today we have some rules in this field. Following the rules increases chance to see expected behavior of investors: giving you money you want. Now I can tell you that absolute anonymity is not welcome during ICO. It harms your fundraisnig. And I think you are wrong about some names and photos. If these names won't be yours there is a chance that somebody will figure it out. If someone was seen in some criminal schemes there is also a chance taht someone will notice that. We are talking about probabilities. Of course you can have succesful ICO withat revealing your names (time will judge us) as well as fail with  getting your identity cards scanned in WP. I always want to see best in other people and so do I with your project. But risks of failure can be lower.
Sincerely,
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December 04, 2017, 07:01:43 PM
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and as a result, the anonymity is reached by these means.

Awesome! I will translate this into Russian. And what about anonimous teams. Are there any chances that you will decide to reveall yourself?

Dear Ogrudko

Well, in terms of trust, our names and photos, and CVs mean nothing, actually. A numerous ICOs gone wrong and their founders escaped with raised funds (and counting). On the other hand, we do feel our project to become a trigger for changes in terms of the freedom of communication. Apart from that, it's a good business with quite an interesting margin to develop it further on. Once we get the funds needed to scale it up and start the real marketing campaign, you'll see how strong the platform may be. It's already a ready-to-use solution, and a lot investments have been made, so why would we abandon this ship, when the wind is coming?

Sincerely,
Lude | TOR-Q-ALL Co-founder

You may be right indeed. But today we have some rules in this field. Following the rules increases chance to see expected behavior of investors: giving you money you want. Now I can tell you that absolute anonymity is not welcome during ICO. It harms your fundraisnig. And I think you are wrong about some names and photos. If these names won't be yours there is a chance that somebody will figure it out. If someone was seen in some criminal schemes there is also a chance taht someone will notice that. We are talking about probabilities. Of course you can have succesful ICO withat revealing your names (time will judge us) as well as fail with  getting your identity cards scanned in WP. I always want to see best in other people and so do I with your project. But risks of failure can be lower.
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Good day!

Thank you for the rised question!

Let us be more specific in that regard. We would not be able to provide anonymity to the level stated in the WP should we publish our ID's. Consider our activity as a torrent tracker – nobody knows who are behind the vessel, however it works, and most of them work fine, twenty-four seven, for the benefit of all mankind. We, at the TOR-Q-ALL, would be pleased to become the first provider of cellular services of that kind. Actually, we are, already, and our clients benefit from the list of features we are able to provide them with today.

Still, we do understand that the non-disclosure of the team section during the ICO hardly could be considered as an advantageous move. True, other fund raisers usually show the identities of the founders, advisors, escrow-agents, and so forth during the ICO in order to trigger the investors' feel of confidence. We reckon that it's not our first priority. Money matters, but not as mush as anonymity does. And then again, we do recommend every particpant to remember the failures of the ICOs with the full disclosure: the number is still counting. Meanwhile, please remember that our Product is a ready-to-use one, that has been tested and polished, and is now available at https://www.torqall.com/#vbid-27d0e482-irbdlerw

We hope, that we provided you with the answer needed. Should you have any other inquires, do not hesitate to approach us either here or at ico@torqall.com

Sincerely,
TOR-Q-ALL team
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We hope, that we provided you with the answer needed. Should you have any other inquires, do not hesitate to approach us either here or at ico@torqall.com


It's to complex for non-specialist to understand the whole picture, but I will try Smiley. The next question is: You tell about single payment, let's say 199 USD. But different countries have different costs for mobile connection. Will subscription for your service cover these costs anyway? And let's assume that you have some physical servers to maintain syste, fully operational. How do you make transactions with other GSM operators while using their basic stations and their service? It's some sort of roaming service? Are you anonymous to them?

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It's to complex for non-specialist to understand the whole picture, but I will try Smiley. The next question is: You tell about single payment, let's say 199 USD. But different countries have different costs for mobile connection. Will subscription for your service cover these costs anyway? And let's assume that you have some physical servers to maintain syste, fully operational. How do you make transactions with other GSM operators while using their basic stations and their service? It's some sort of roaming service? Are you anonymous to them?

Thank you for this question! This is a fixed sum regardless of where you are. Indeed, other providers do detect the signal and where it comes from (provider, not location). Still, the identity of the TOR-Q-ALL operator is hidden, for it's a trade mark, not a legal entity. Apart from that, each and single call is divided into two parts (leg 1/ leg 2), thus it's literally a chaotic system of calls that nobody could trace back without a hint. In respect of the mutual net-off with other providers, you should know that we buy a certain amount of traffic (minutes, GBs, etc), and we use it according to our financial model, which helps us maintain the price stated above. Upon scaling we'll be able to cut off one forth of the price, i.e. the volume provides the discount for us, and for you as a customer.

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Hello! I am an editor from icoholder.com. Your IСO was added to our listing and now is available to investors:  https://icoholder.com/en/ico/tor-q-all-15981. You can edit your Page by adding more information about your ICO and also verify team members to improve ranking.  
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Hello! I am an editor from icoholder.com. Your IСO was added to our listing and now is available to investors:  https://icoholder.com/en/ico/tor-q-all-15981. You can edit your Page by adding more information about your ICO and also verify team members to improve ranking.  
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Dear TSokol!

That would have been very kind of yours to ask our permission first, prior to the enlisting. Instead, you have evaluated our project without contacting us, and now – in the very beginning of the ICO – you have awarded us with a rank based on the criteria you setup yourself.

Regarding the ICO aggregators and media-centers, we want to state here the list of those websites which have enlisted us either upon our request, or upon their own preliminary request.

1. ICOALERT.COM

2. ICOCHECKER.COM

3. ICOTRACKER.NET

4. PITCHMYICO.COM

We would kindly ask the community to remain professional in terms of dealing with categories that could affect others goodwill.

In turn, we're ready to provide every interested party with clarifications regarding all the aspects of the ICO.

Thank you all!
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December 14, 2017, 01:06:08 AM
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BTW, recently we were enlisted by PITCHMYICO.COM

Please learn a bit more about us through the telegram channel https://telegram.me/pitchmyicobot?start=dG9yLXEtYWxs

We have undergone through a demanding interview there! Kudos to their team who performed like real professionals all way long!
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One of the best articles about the TOR-Q-ALL: "How to regain control of your phone calls"

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@danizaharie/how-to-regain-control-of-your-phone-calls
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Just in case you missed it – our ICO is going live now!

SMART CONTRACT ADRESS

0x2a7faff885d270ccda55fbd374ce0a97763bbcf0

OFFICIAL TOKEN ID

0x7a0a170b42477378b2be6e3c4b3c1d0dbdee71f0




Details are provided via www.torqall.com or ico@torqall.com
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This ICO looks very promising. I hope it is not cancelled for low collection of funds. Is there any soft cap (minimum amount to be raised)?

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